EPThttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/447391-dl-fighting-spirit-map-pack - page 2 has a link to the python + other maps also if anyone else needs
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talkingcd
United States19 Posts
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On June 01 2015 07:02 lestye wrote: Anyone hear of this event? F91 is playing versus Bisu in this HOTS launch event: http://www.twitch.tv/blizzardnetease in a what launch event? | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
I'm guessing Heroes of the Storm. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
I'm mainly asking this because I haven't seen any team leagues pop up, it's all individual tournaments. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 01 2015 22:54 IntoTheheart wrote: Despite the fact that there are people who stream, and play in tournaments, is BW in Korea more or less just an amateur scene now, with people practicing after work or when they're between jobs? I'm mainly asking this because I haven't seen any team leagues pop up, it's all individual tournaments. I belive Brood War as a vocation ceased to exist, but would need a confirmation on that. | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On June 01 2015 07:02 lestye wrote: Anyone hear of this event? F91 is playing versus Bisu in this HOTS launch event: http://www.twitch.tv/blizzardnetease No, I couldn't find the thread linking to this event in the BW General Overview. Thanks. | ||
prech
United States2948 Posts
On June 02 2015 00:11 McRatyn wrote: I belive Brood War as a vocation ceased to exist, but would need a confirmation on that. Right... only a handful of top players, or those who aren't necessarily great players but are entertaining (charismatic, talkative, engage in antics and stunts), manage to succeed off their stream donations. There are relatively few tournaments with large enough prize purses to enable a livable wage, so the streams are the primary source of income for those actively in the scene. Then there are many who have largely moved on from the game but return intermittently for the majors, like  Kwanro... | ||
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Gamlet
Ukraine336 Posts
On May 25 2015 20:49 Probemicro wrote: Source sungchun (mbc caster) tourney Participants: Nada, Guemchi, Child, Rock, Iris, Lucifer, Hwasin, Sharp Date: 25th May Group A and B 26th May Group C and D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9m2qfjR.jpg) No results?No vods ? | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On June 02 2015 00:11 McRatyn wrote: I belive Brood War as a vocation ceased to exist, but would need a confirmation on that. Would be interesting to see how much that would change if Blizzard ever released, say, an HD update of BW. Of course, the odds are decidedly against that, especially before LotV coming out, but even afterwards.  After all, it'd be a bit embarrassing if a significant # of ppl then left SC2 for BW, i.e. your 'latest and greatest' taking a hit from a legacy game. Though one would like to think that Bliz wouldn't think of it that way. | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
On June 02 2015 17:25 [[Starlight]] wrote: Would be interesting to see how much that would change if Blizzard ever released, say, an HD update of BW. Of course, the odds are decidedly against that, especially before LotV coming out, but even afterwards. After all, it'd be a bit embarrassing if a significant # of ppl then left SC2 for BW, i.e. your 'latest and greatest' taking a hit from a legacy game. Though one would like to think that Bliz wouldn't think of it that way. Would that be a good thing? If they re-released BW, odds are it wouldnt be a completely perfect remake and they might make concessions to make the game easier. The smallest concession might make it a completely different game and "not BW". So I think that's not likely at all to happen. We'll see a wc3 remake before a bw remake even though wc3 didnt sell anywhere near as well. | ||
pheer
5390 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:03 lestye wrote: If they re-released BW, odds are it wouldnt be a completely perfect remake and they might make concessions to make the game easier. The smallest concession might make it a completely different game and "not BW". Agree... try to imagine bw without shitty reaver/goon AI, medics that follow marines perfectly, and no more muta stacking. The game would change dramatically with just these little tweaks and not for the better. I'm happy with its quirks. | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
On June 02 2015 20:48 pheer wrote: Agree... try to imagine bw without shitty reaver/goon AI, medics that follow marines perfectly, and no more muta stacking. The game would change dramatically with just these little tweaks and not for the better. I'm happy with its quirks. I think they would keep muta stacking, but theres other stuff as well, like, could you make the AI exactly the same or would it be an imitation with its own quirks, even if you strived for the BW style, i would think it would be difficult to replicate the AI exactly the same consistent. Also, in this proposed game, you can rally your workers into the minerals like WC3, and you can bind buildings. Any one of these changes would change the game completely, and its hard to say like, if you had to give up something, or maybe many things to make this remake, would it still be the game you love? It's hard to say. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
Did you guys feel the same way after the 1.04 patch, which had a great MANY changes? Or the 1.08 patch, which also had a lot of changes? Did either of those make the game 'not BW'? I understand the concern, but not the automatic "we're doomed" resignation. | ||
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pheer
5390 Posts
On June 02 2015 22:38 [[Starlight]] wrote: Where did we get the idea that any change would make the game 'not BW'? The point I was making is, even a super small change to the current game would completely throw the dynamic of the game as we know it. So because you can slightly change the game itself with such a minor edit, there would be no possible way to replicate it or make "broodwar 2" or whatever. sc2bw on sc2 is super fun, but it doesn't have all the little quirks that make bw what we know it today! | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On June 02 2015 23:12 pheer wrote: The point I was making is, even a super small change to the current game would completely throw the dynamic of the game as we know it. So because you can slightly change the game itself with such a minor edit, there would be no possible way to replicate it or make "broodwar 2" or whatever. sc2bw on sc2 is super fun, but it doesn't have all the little quirks that make bw what we know it today! I can imagine the same conversation after the 1.04 patch: "Oh, man. They slowed down the rate at which the Hatchery spawns larvae from one every 15 seconds to one every 20 seconds [a very major change, btw]. It's just not the same game anymore, they've completely thrown the dynamic. So what if it was a major source of imba in favor of Zerg, I liked the quirk, now it's just not Brood War anymore." And yet... everyone kept playing after 1.04, and in fact most ppl liked the changes quite a lot, actually. | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
On June 02 2015 23:56 [[Starlight]] wrote: I can imagine the same conversation after the 1.04 patch: "Oh, man. They slowed down the rate at which the Hatchery spawns larvae from one every 15 seconds to one every 20 seconds [a very major change, btw]. It's just not the same game anymore, they've completely thrown the dynamic. So what if it was a major source of imba in favor of Zerg, I liked the quirk, now it's just not Brood War anymore." And yet... everyone kept playing after 1.04, and in fact most ppl liked the changes quite a lot, actually. The thing is, patch 1.03 was there for two months before 1.04 came out. We've been on the same "balance" patch for 14+ years. There's a lot of people perfectly content with BW balance (read the hypothetical balance patch thread). | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On June 02 2015 17:25 [[Starlight]] wrote: Would be interesting to see how much that would change if Blizzard ever released, say, an HD update of BW. Of course, the odds are decidedly against that, especially before LotV coming out, but even afterwards. After all, it'd be a bit embarrassing if a significant # of ppl then left SC2 for BW, i.e. your 'latest and greatest' taking a hit from a legacy game. I'dough one would like to think that Bliz wouldn't think of it that way. Actually, I'd rather they didn't try to release some HD version of BW. Change isn't always a good thing. BW's graphics are nowhere as terrible as some people claim and as mentioned, even a small change that seems insignificant on the surface can alter gameplay quite a bit. Another thing is that there is a good chance that the graphical update will cause a lot of people to be unable to play the game. Even with the lowest setting, my laptop can't play lotv. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On June 03 2015 00:12 lestye wrote: The thing is, patch 1.03 was there for two months before 1.04 came out. We've been on the same "balance" patch for 14+ years. There's a lot of people perfectly content with BW balance (read the hypothetical balance patch thread). Uh huh, and 1.08 came along 3 years after release, and 2.5 years after 1.04, and also changed quite a lot of things... and most ppl didn't get mad and say, "This isn't BW anymore", they kept on playing the game. Just as happened with the 1.04 release. Probably in no small part because pre-1.04 balance wasn't good, and the game would've suffered if Bliz had NOT acted. It wouldn't in fact be the game we know and love if they had just sat on their hands, for fear of upsetting the few ppl who'd get mad if they made changes. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On June 03 2015 00:30 BigFan wrote: Actually, I'd rather they didn't try to release some HD version of BW. Change isn't always a good thing. BW's graphics are nowhere as terrible as some people claim and as mentioned, even a small change that seems insignificant on the surface can alter gameplay quite a bit. Another thing is that there is a good chance that the graphical update will cause a lot of people to be unable to play the game. Even with the lowest setting, my laptop can't play lotv. So now 640x480 and 256 colors is tha bomb? I'm not saying they should make BW 3D or use SC2's engine or anything. I personally am not crazy about SC2's look and feel, and prefer BW's aesthetics overall. But high-res 2D BW would be awesome.  I also don't think high-res 2D BW would be terribly high on the sys requirements, considering that it's been 17 years since release. If you're still running 1998 hardware, well, it might just be time for an upgrade, lol. | ||
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