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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
March 31 2015 00:17 GMT
#2141
Poll: How do you feel about Sbenu GSL?
Ambivalence, largely... veering slightly negative.

As long as it doesn't interfere with Sonic/SBENU's BW activities, I'm all for it, especially if it furthers the SBENU brand and empire...but sadly, I imagine Sonic and SBENU's marketing department only have X number of hours in the day such that some of the time and resources dedicated to SC2 or LoL would be at BW's expense
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 00:34:59
March 31 2015 00:33 GMT
#2142
oh wow sonic is going all out. its great for him but its definitely going to have at least a marginal influence on the BW tourney
(in terms of scheduling/timing/prizepool)

(and honestly i dont visit sc2 section anymore so i was initially confused when BD made that brief post. could at least state in the post what that is? for the BW purists
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19368 Posts
March 31 2015 00:43 GMT
#2143
On March 31 2015 09:33 Probemicro wrote:
oh wow sonic is going all out. its great for him but its definitely going to have at least a marginal influence on the BW tourney
(in terms of scheduling/timing/prizepool)

(and honestly i dont visit sc2 section anymore so i was initially confused when BD made that brief post. could at least state in the post what that is? for the BW purists

Added. :D
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 31 2015 00:54 GMT
#2144
It is frankly tragic that not all the money in the world is spent on my personal interests and hobbies. It is wasteful and repulsive.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 02:11:42
March 31 2015 02:11 GMT
#2145
^ Exactly! This guy gets it!

On March 31 2015 06:55 BisuDagger wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/481612-sbenu-sponsors-gsl-jyp-debuts-as-commentator
Poll: How do you feel about Sbenu GSL?

(Vote): Happy
(Vote): Sad
(Vote): Jealous
(Vote): Supportive
(Vote): Its all mine, no one else can have it!


hmm tough to call it but I went with supportive. I don't have issues with Sonic doing what he wants, after all, his money, his company and such. I feel that if he wants to sponsor everything e-sports under the sun, he should be able to and I don't think criticism of such a move is that warranted. In the end, he doesn't owe us anything.

BW is also his passion while SCII sponsorship is just to reach out to other players and get them introduced to SBenu. Does this mean SSL11 will have poor production and such? Not necessary, no. I'm happy to have tournaments continue and I'm supportive of what Sonic does so long as it doesn't involve him axing his support for BW.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 31 2015 02:35 GMT
#2146
On March 31 2015 09:54 Chef wrote:
It is frankly tragic that not all the money in the world is spent on my personal interests and hobbies. It is wasteful and repulsive.

I disagree.

There needs to be money spent on my food as well.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11287 Posts
March 31 2015 06:50 GMT
#2147
I feel a bit uncomfortable with Sonic's move with an even slighter hint of antagonism. But, it is his money so nothing we can do there.

As long as the esports industry prospers (along with it BW), I'm cool.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
March 31 2015 06:57 GMT
#2148
SBENU has a lot of money and i doubt there's much more to their involvement than cutting a cheque, so good for him for supporting other esports.
Writer
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12042 Posts
March 31 2015 07:51 GMT
#2149
On March 31 2015 11:35 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 09:54 Chef wrote:
It is frankly tragic that not all the money in the world is spent on my personal interests and hobbies. It is wasteful and repulsive.

I disagree.

There needs to be money spent on my food as well.


You waste time and money on eating food? HAH!

I sustain myself purely on minerals and gas mined in game.
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bisu_chanell
Profile Joined March 2015
Poland3 Posts
March 31 2015 15:13 GMT
#2150
I've created script which is monitoring twitch 24/7 for Bisu's stream. If such transmission is found, it will save this transmission. I will upload them all the time on link bisustreams. Unfortunately my monthly tranfsfer limit isn't too impressive. So it is likely to block downloading at end of the month, maybe often.
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 20:41:35
March 31 2015 20:27 GMT
#2151
double post

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 31 2015 06:55 BisuDagger wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/481612-sbenu-sponsors-gsl-jyp-debuts-as-commentator
Poll: How do you feel about Sbenu GSL?

(Vote): Happy
(Vote): Sad
(Vote): Jealous
(Vote): Supportive
(Vote): Its all mine, no one else can have it!



Sorry Sonic, I think this is a terrible idea. SC2 has proved massively unpopular in Korea, due to severe gameplay design flaws (to the point where interest decreased so much that arenas were mostly empty, and the game was not viable as an esport). It is not a well designed -and has not proved to be an interesting- game; it is not positive to associate a brand with SC2, especially for a Korean company - boredom and disinterest. Broodwar and LoL have proved to be popular; if you want to advertise/support esports more, expand in these areas, or another game. But SC2 is among the worst choices, if not the worst.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 03:12:41
April 05 2015 14:00 GMT
#2152
Yet another indicator that BW is far from dead:

http://www.gamespot.com/gallery/the-20-most-lucrative-games-you-can-play-professio/2900-91/

Guess where BW ranked?


User was warned for being hilarious
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
April 05 2015 14:21 GMT
#2153
To be fair that counts the history of the game
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SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
April 06 2015 00:32 GMT
#2154
I heard on the sc2 stream they mentioned Bisu streaming on Afreeca and earning 1000 of dollars.
Really? how is it possible?
Plus smth about bubles.
How do people earn such money streaming and what is bubles?
thnx
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 00:45:43
April 06 2015 00:45 GMT
#2155
On April 06 2015 09:32 SorrowShine wrote:
I heard on the sc2 stream they mentioned Bisu streaming on Afreeca and earning 1000 of dollars.
Really? how is it possible?
Plus smth about bubles.
How do people earn such money streaming and what is bubles?
thnx

Bisu usually has a couple of thousand viewers watching him. For earning, it's quite possible he's earning that much but someone else will have to verify that. As for bubbles, you probably mean balloons lol. Afreecan viewers can donate balloons to the streamer which get converted into money. Afreeca does take a cut though I don't remember how much (I think around 70% or so).

Shuttle who is another protoss player (STX captain) was earning about 25,000 a month 1-2 years back and showed his account when someone asked (how we know). Hope someone can link the picture for you. Hope that clarifies some things
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
April 06 2015 01:04 GMT
#2156
Yeah, Bisu makes thousands from viewer donations. He doesn't stream as often as Shuttle, but he's a lot more popular.
Each balloon is worth 100 won, and Afreeca takes 30%, so he gets 70 won/balloon.
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 06 2015 01:55 GMT
#2157
On April 06 2015 10:04 Sero wrote:
Yeah, Bisu makes thousands from viewer donations. He doesn't stream as often as Shuttle, but he's a lot more popular.
Each balloon is worth 100 won, and Afreeca takes 30%, so he gets 70 won/balloon.

oh it's 30%. For some reason, thought it was much higher than that.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 02:40:58
April 06 2015 02:40 GMT
#2158
according to afreecatv.char the cashout rate actually varies between 60-80%, not sure how the rate is determined, maybe you can cash out more if you are popular?

On March 07 2015 11:50 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:35 amazingxkcd wrote:
On March 07 2015 02:45 slytown wrote:
what are balloons?


donation currency on afreeca. can be used for multiple things and you can cash it out for 70% of its original value (so 1 balloon was 100/1000won to purchase and can be donated to a streamer you like). It's the basis of money matches as well between streamers


Cash out rates vary from person to person. 60% to BJ is the standard rate for everyone, but it can go up to as high as 80%.

jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
April 06 2015 05:09 GMT
#2159
ya basically if your a regular BJ you get 60%. if you are a best bj 70%. if your a partner BJ 80%. actual rates might be slightly different but thats how ppl say it is
Argentina
Gamlet
Profile Joined December 2012
Ukraine336 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 17:15:28
April 06 2015 17:14 GMT
#2160
I wait vods of 41 Maki Starleague.Share 41 youtube chanel/https://www.youtube.com/user/ch41TV/videos
Last 4 videos its 4 match .Maybe its Sea-Free.Its tourney match?
Kiev
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