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pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
August 29 2013 05:47 GMT
#101
On August 29 2013 14:35 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:33 pylonsalad wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 Arceus wrote:
what the fuck I was sure JangBi has what it takes to win this GSL
too many protosses retire. goddamn this game


that's what happens when protoss is by far the least fun of the three races...to play as and play against.


If that were the case, he could just change races. I think the issue is the game design in general.


There are several players on record who said they didn't want to disappoint their fans and felt like they had to play the race they did in BW even if a switch would suit their play style more. For example Bisu. Yes, many people have commented on the design flaws of the game it isn't anything new but you got to do the best with the tools you have and players still find success.


I find it telling that it's mostly ex-BW players retiring recently. Just like those who dropped out when Kespa made the switch, I think many just don't like the new game as much but stayed on because, well, they don't have a choice if they want to be progamers. They have a reference for comparison that the non-Kespa SC2 players don't have.

With the uncertain future of proleague, I think we're going to see a few more retirements from players who were star players in BW but not doing too great in SC2.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 29 2013 05:47 GMT
#102
I think Sonic just jizzed in his pants. While getting BeSt and Sea to play in SRT was something getting JANGBI, a 2-time OSL champion trumps that. Sad that he lost motivation and best of luck in everything he decides to do. Most surprising thing is, I'm sure JangBi was getting quite the cushy salary.
jiberish
Profile Joined April 2011
80 Posts
August 29 2013 05:47 GMT
#103
WTF at least play your games and see what happens in the season. A final hoorah. Sucks for the guy who missed a code S spot because of this.
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines894 Posts
August 29 2013 05:47 GMT
#104
woot sospa is getting more exciting :D
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2013 05:48 GMT
#105
On August 29 2013 14:44 itsdaniel wrote:
i will miss him so much this is going to be a horrible day for me

[image loading]

bye!!! T___T


At least we still have Kim Ga Eul so beautiful.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 29 2013 05:49 GMT
#106
On August 29 2013 14:46 myminerals wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:43 larse wrote:
I think we are approaching the day when all the BW big names retire.

Jangbi

Jaehoon

Best

and some other big names will be among the list. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, etc.

I wonder why Bisu didn't, it doesn't look like he's doing well anyway.
So here is my try Stork, Bisu, Effort, Roro

Roro isn't retiring yet. He won the last WoL GSL getting 100k although he's fallen a lot from that period. Effort, possibly. Must be painful to be an OSL winner and can't make it past RO32(I believe).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 29 2013 05:49 GMT
#107
So weird since Jangbi was certainly one of the top protoss players. Maybe if he had made it furthur last season T.T
mOojc
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia460 Posts
August 29 2013 05:49 GMT
#108
Best.. Jaehoon.. and now Jangbi. Epic sad face. Though if Jangbi streams some BW and plays in SRT I will be super happy. :D
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 29 2013 05:49 GMT
#109
Come play next SRT
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 29 2013 05:50 GMT
#110
I have a strong suspicion that just about all Kespa players secretly hate SC2. I've been watching Jaehoon stream BW last few days and he looks like a slave who just gained his freedom.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 29 2013 05:50 GMT
#111
On August 29 2013 14:49 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:46 myminerals wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:43 larse wrote:
I think we are approaching the day when all the BW big names retire.

Jangbi

Jaehoon

Best

and some other big names will be among the list. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, etc.

I wonder why Bisu didn't, it doesn't look like he's doing well anyway.
So here is my try Stork, Bisu, Effort, Roro

Roro isn't retiring yet. He won the last WoL GSL getting 100k although he's fallen a lot from that period. Effort, possibly. Must be painful to be an OSL winner and can't make it past RO32(I believe).

he won 50k not 100k
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 29 2013 05:50 GMT
#112
ahh noo Jangbi...
blabberrrrr
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 29 2013 05:51 GMT
#113
What the fuck???? T_T
rip prime
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 29 2013 05:51 GMT
#114
On August 29 2013 14:37 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:33 Arceus wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 Arceus wrote:
what the fuck I was sure JangBi has what it takes to win this GSL
too many protosses retire. goddamn this game


that's what happens when protoss is by far the least fun of the three races...to play as and play against.

I was even thinking, if theres enough protoss retiring, Blizzard might consider re-design the race
not gonna happen though


Try to take the positives out of this. This leaves a seat for more up-and-comers to fill the void. A lot of these KeSPA players who have been playing years and years of BW are part of the old guard. This is great news for the young generation of players even if JangBi leaves big shoes to fill.

I love the players more than the game. For instance this event takes away much interest of me in this GSL. Thats the case for most sports imo
Gotta devote more time to watching the SSL I guess
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-29 05:52:03
August 29 2013 05:51 GMT
#115
Awwww yeah, Jangbi in SOSPA incoming, he's always been my favourite PvTer in BW, those storms .

Probably very quickly going to be by far the best protoss in the competition if he joins, since he should be the highest calibre player not playing sc2.

Hopefully this starts an avalanche of retirements of former BW superstars that arn't doing that well (stork, bisu). If we could get enough high calibre players to get another BW proleague going that would be a dream come true, probably getting ahead of myself there though .

If Jangbi doesn't join SOSPA though that would be extraordinarily sad .
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
August 29 2013 05:52 GMT
#116
On August 29 2013 14:49 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:46 myminerals wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:43 larse wrote:
I think we are approaching the day when all the BW big names retire.

Jangbi

Jaehoon

Best

and some other big names will be among the list. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, etc.

I wonder why Bisu didn't, it doesn't look like he's doing well anyway.
So here is my try Stork, Bisu, Effort, Roro

Roro isn't retiring yet. He won the last WoL GSL getting 100k although he's fallen a lot from that period. Effort, possibly. Must be painful to be an OSL winner and can't make it past RO32(I believe).

I called Roro because of his sudden drop, that may mean that something is wrong. Just a guess.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2013 05:52 GMT
#117
On August 29 2013 14:47 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:35 StarStruck wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:33 pylonsalad wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 Arceus wrote:
what the fuck I was sure JangBi has what it takes to win this GSL
too many protosses retire. goddamn this game


that's what happens when protoss is by far the least fun of the three races...to play as and play against.


If that were the case, he could just change races. I think the issue is the game design in general.


There are several players on record who said they didn't want to disappoint their fans and felt like they had to play the race they did in BW even if a switch would suit their play style more. For example Bisu. Yes, many people have commented on the design flaws of the game it isn't anything new but you got to do the best with the tools you have and players still find success.


I find it telling that it's mostly ex-BW players retiring recently. Just like those who dropped out when Kespa made the switch, I think many just don't like the new game as much but stayed on because, well, they don't have a choice if they want to be progamers. They have a reference for comparison that the non-Kespa SC2 players don't have.

With the uncertain future of proleague, I think we're going to see a few more retirements from players who were star players in BW but not doing too great in SC2.


When you've been playing a game for the vast majority of your adolescence years? It's very hard when you're told you aren't allowed playing it anymore and you have to play a new game. Very hard and the pressure on them is enormous. I'm really happy for guys like Sea who got out right away because he knew it wasn't for him and look at him now. Before they switched from BW to SC2. Sea was in a BW nightmare in PL. It was some of his darkest days as a player where he looked absolutely clueless. Ever since his return to BW and joining Sonic League he's now a beast again.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 29 2013 05:52 GMT
#118
On August 29 2013 14:50 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:49 BigFan wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:46 myminerals wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:43 larse wrote:
I think we are approaching the day when all the BW big names retire.

Jangbi

Jaehoon

Best

and some other big names will be among the list. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, etc.

I wonder why Bisu didn't, it doesn't look like he's doing well anyway.
So here is my try Stork, Bisu, Effort, Roro

Roro isn't retiring yet. He won the last WoL GSL getting 100k although he's fallen a lot from that period. Effort, possibly. Must be painful to be an OSL winner and can't make it past RO32(I believe).

he won 50k not 100k

50? wasn't it 100 million won? I may be basing this on GSL open season prize although I watched the game live and saw him get the cheque.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
August 29 2013 05:52 GMT
#119
On August 29 2013 14:46 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:44 babylon wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:43 larse wrote:
I think we are approaching the day when all the BW big names retire.

Jangbi

Jaehoon

Best

and some other big names will be among the list. Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Fantasy, etc.

Most likely Stork, possibly Bisu and Fantasy. If Flash doesn't get results soon, I think he might go as well. For some reason though I think JD will stay for a while.

agree. Stork, Bisu and Fantasy are doing horribly in SCII(Bisu best from all three).

Are you high? Fantasy's vastly outperformed Bisu in SC2
Yhamm is the god of predictions
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
August 29 2013 05:53 GMT
#120
On August 29 2013 14:51 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 14:37 StarStruck wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:33 Arceus wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 ShiroKaisen wrote:
On August 29 2013 14:29 Arceus wrote:
what the fuck I was sure JangBi has what it takes to win this GSL
too many protosses retire. goddamn this game


that's what happens when protoss is by far the least fun of the three races...to play as and play against.

I was even thinking, if theres enough protoss retiring, Blizzard might consider re-design the race
not gonna happen though


Try to take the positives out of this. This leaves a seat for more up-and-comers to fill the void. A lot of these KeSPA players who have been playing years and years of BW are part of the old guard. This is great news for the young generation of players even if JangBi leaves big shoes to fill.

I love the players more than the game. For instance this event takes away much interest of me in this GSL. Thats the case for most sports imo
Gotta devote more time to watching the SSL I guess

hmm, this is kinda what I always felt towards SC2 scene, I watch the games mostly because of former BW players. If there was noone to play SC2 from former BW scene, I would not watch it. This is sad.
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