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DES Retirement Interview with BeSt

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juki
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68 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 07:28:47
August 24 2013 02:13 GMT
#1
This is an English translation of a DES article/interview about BeSt on his retirement.




Doh Jae-Wook: "I am happy I can leave while smiling"

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The poet Lee Hyong-Gi wrote in his poem "Falling Blossoms", "How beautiful the sight of one who knows it's time to leave." Saying goodbye is sad, but if you must do it, choosing the right time will allow you to do so gracefully.

Among entertainers, those who retired and whose fans desperately wanted to see return are perhaps remembered most fondly. Also for athletes, some of the most memorable are those who ended their careers even though they could have achieved more.

However, for e-sports these cases are not as common. Some who stood at the top were disgraced and forced to leave the sport, while most others saw their skill level drop and became has-beens who sat on the bench.

When SK Telecon's Doh Jae-Wook (BeSt) announced his retirement, fans were probably surprised for this reason. His skill had not bottomed out, on the contrary, just previously he had played in the Proleague playoffs, winning against STX's Lee Shin-Hyong (Bogus/INnoVation) who was widely considered the best player at the time, so news of his retirement was difficult for fans to receive.

A standout player, the news of Doh Jae-Wook's entrance into military service was a shock to our staff as well. At SK Telecom and in e-sports in general, he was a player who brought joy to the fans even beyond his results. Perhaps for that reason, we were not quite prepared to send him off.

Why would he choose to enter the military now? Choosing military service over the fans who wished to see him play again, please listen to Doh Jae-Wook's truthful story.

Truly a professional
If you asked fans or industry insiders to describe Doh Jae-Wook, they would describe him as "a fun player, a talkative player." It is difficult to think of him as a serious person. In broadcasts, he would always be quick-witted and bold in his behavior which brought joy to the fans.

However, Doh Jae-Wook was perhaps one of the most serious and proud progamers. It was the true character that people did not see. He was objective, analytic, and greatly hated to lose.

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When asked why he was retiring when he was just beginning to show promise, he answered honestly, "I felt that I had achieved the skill I was capable of." His response is different from those who became overconfident because of results and could not evaluate themselves objectively.

"I had no reason to continue being a progamer. Even continuing for one or two more years, I felt it would not be enough to reach the top. The thought that you can achieve anything with just hard work isn't quite true. No matter how hard you try, sometimes some things don't work out. At that time, being honest with yourself and stopping is a brave thing to do."

We could not understand what he was saying. Just previously, he had taken out the best player, STX's Lee Shin-Hyong. However, he said, "Because of that win, I felt even stronger about retiring."

"When analyzing progamers using data and statistics, there are clear advantages of one over another, but nobody is invulnerable to losing. But when I beat Lee Shin-Hyong, many people called it a 'miracle'. Already they did not consider me a pro. If the spectators don't recognize me as a pro, I think it is a good decision to leave."

Doh Jae-Wook confessed that he was most angry during this time in his progaming career. When he was matched with Lee Shin-Hyong, the opposing team's ace, many people chalked it up as an automatic win, and he could barely contain his rage. Based on his public persona, we would have expected him to just laugh it off, but Doh Jae-Wook was a much more serious progamer than we believed.

"What progamer plays in order to lose? Dismissing a match as an automatic loss is one of the most humiliating insults we can receive. It devalues all of the work that the player makes toward that one match. As an e-sports progamer I had a lot of pride but hearing that made it feel like they were disregarding all of my efforts until then and that made me angry. I went out to prove that it would not be a walkover or a miracle, but the result of my own hard work."

Knowing that entertaining the fans was an important part of being a progamer, Doh Jae-wook always showed us his cheerful side. But hearing this story it is clear that he has a strong competitive spirit.

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That incident cemented his belief that "now is the time to leave." Thinking that the point where fans did not consider him a professional to be the right time to stop, Doh Jae-Wook made the decision to retire and enter the military.

A progaming career without regrets: "I was happy"
We asked Doh Jae-wook what his most joyful moment as a progamer was. Perhaps it was when he reverse swept in the Starleague semifinals to reach his first final, or when his team won the Proleague.

However, his answer was unexpected. With an honest expression he told us, "every moment was joyful." Among all of the progamers we have interviewed until now, it was our first time hearing an answer like this.

"If I had not become a progamer, how would things have gone? I probably would just be a normal person getting through day by day. I was able to receive such affection from so many people and live so happily because I was a progamer. Even just eating with my teammates, I was so happy."

The ever-joyful Doh Jae-Wook, but he must have also had difficult times. What could be his most painful memory? This time he also gave an extraordinary answer. He said the six straight losses immediately after his debut were his most difficult time.

"When I lost 0-3 in the Starleague finals, surprisingly it was not that difficult for me. I was sorry toward my parents but I was not suffering nor did I want to stop being a progamer. To even stand on the Starleague finals stage that I had dreamed of made me so happy. But when I lost six straight games after my debut, it was so difficult I thought I wanted to die."

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He sometimes thought of running away in the night. Since he was not a well-known progamer and did not have a contract with the team, he believed that if escaped in the early morning and hid away somewhere, no one would find him.

But miraculously, while Doh Jae-Wook had these thoughts of running away, he got his first win. With the unforgettable thrill of that time, he stopped his thoughts of escape and resolved to walk the path of a progamer.

There were many ups and downs, but being a progamer was Doh Jae-Wook's unavoidable destiny. For him, feeling so much happiness in every moment in his career, retiring must not have been an easy decision. However, he told us that since he was so happy, "I want to leave amongst the applause."

"Honestly I haven't thought much about what I will do after military service. Nevertheless, I made the decision to retire because I didn't want to mar my happy memories as a progamer. I did not want to be a washed up player who people would consider it a miracle if I won. I want to happily keep remembering my joyful times as a progamer."

Doh Jae-Wook, so proud of being a progamer and wishing to exit gracefully. We could feel how much love and pride he had for his career. Finally seeing his serious side after all this time, it really felt like it was the end, and we were not sure how to take it.

However, we think that Doh Jae-Wook's fans should no longer be sad. We could see that he was leaving with a smile, full of joy and without regrets. We can now also see him off with a smile.

"I wish for the fans to also only keep happy memories of me. No matter what happens I will always be proud of having been a progamer. When I am released I hope that e-sports will have developed further. To the fans and e-sports industry workers, please continue working hard. Thank you to my fans, once again. For someone as flawed as myself, to receive such overflowing love from you all, I am truly thankful."

Keeping a smile even until the final moment and seeing him leave full of joyful memories, we thought of "Falling Blossoms" once again. For Doh Jae-Wook who was sure it was his time to leave, the sight of his departure was beautiful, and he will continue to remain in our memories.

Original Article by Lee So-Ra sora@dailyesports.com
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#2
Thanks Juki.

gg BeSt, always solid and reliable, please accept my modest SKT fan gratitude.
ॐ
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
August 24 2013 02:42 GMT
#3
GG BeSt. We will miss you.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
August 24 2013 03:04 GMT
#4
The man, after Nal_Ra, that I learned how to PvT in BW. *salute*
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
August 24 2013 03:22 GMT
#5
While not being one of the absolute greatest to ever touch BW, i'll always remember him as one of the scariest PvP and PvT players ever at his peak and he was always solid in Proleague, so GG BeSt you handsome man.
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chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
August 24 2013 03:25 GMT
#6
Thanks for the interview. Good luck, Best.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 24 2013 03:37 GMT
#7
Oh God that made me so sad

Why do retirement interviews have to be so sad T_T
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Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
August 24 2013 03:54 GMT
#8
Watching BeSt when he could get into his macro mode was one of the most beautiful things in the game. Of course I was talking with someone a few nights ago and BeSt came up and the first thing he said was 'oh, he's the Protoss who played against July'.

Thanks for the translation!
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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 24 2013 04:00 GMT
#9
ty for the translation
ace hwaiting!!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 24 2013 04:03 GMT
#10
oh it's a sad thing he retired for that reason. To me, you will always be a progamer, BeSt.
Broodwar for life!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 24 2013 04:44 GMT
#11
GG BeSt. Great body, heart of the champion
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 24 2013 05:19 GMT
#12
Cool read, thanks!

On August 24 2013 11:13 juki wrote:
He sometimes thought of running away in the night. Since he was not a well-known progamer and did not have a contract with the team, he believed that if escaped in the early morning and jumped in the sea no one would find him.


Whoah that got dark.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
August 24 2013 05:31 GMT
#13
Thanks for the article. BeSt really is one of the greatest figures in BW history. I really hope he can still find time for BW. HIs recent game versus INH was surgical getting up to 24 gates ways and 200/200 army with in 12 minutes.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 05:47:59
August 24 2013 05:46 GMT
#14
Thanks for the translation! You have to admire his resolve. He realized that he won't be able to make the top anytime soon and wanted to remember his memories as a progamer in a good light. Good stuff. Best of luck! Hope he streams BW after his military service and manages to find a career that he can excel in

I have to say though, that it caught me off guard that he thought of jumping into the sea after those 6 consecutive losses. Man, he must've been depressed at that point ><
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
viermalvier
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria115 Posts
August 24 2013 07:38 GMT
#15
Thanks for the work

BBB - ByebyeBest!

I truly hope we will see each other again, you in front the camera and I in front the screen
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
August 24 2013 07:47 GMT
#16
Best of luck with whatever you decide to go into next, Doh Jae Wook.
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 24 2013 08:43 GMT
#17
Thank you for the translation, great read

Didn't know Best was very serious person and suicidal. His public persona was giving happy go lucky feeling.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 24 2013 08:45 GMT
#18
On August 24 2013 14:19 Heyoka wrote:
Cool read, thanks!

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:13 juki wrote:
He sometimes thought of running away in the night. Since he was not a well-known progamer and did not have a contract with the team, he believed that if escaped in the early morning and jumped in the sea no one would find him.


Whoah that got dark.

Yeah holy shit. Sounds like he had it rough for a period.
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Magreidis
Profile Joined May 2013
Lithuania146 Posts
August 24 2013 08:50 GMT
#19
Strangely, he didn't mention about coming back to Brood War.
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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
August 24 2013 09:05 GMT
#20
On August 24 2013 17:50 Magreidis wrote:
Strangely, he didn't mention about coming back to Brood War.


I'm guessing maybe he wont?
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WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
August 24 2013 11:38 GMT
#21
Great article. Wishing him the best of luck in his future endeavours and hopefully we'll get to see him playing BW from time to time!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9495 Posts
August 24 2013 11:58 GMT
#22
Thank you for the translation, it was a very nice read.
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 24 2013 12:06 GMT
#23
Thank you so much for the translation. Was a sad read. But a good one none the less. Can't believe I am gonna miss these guys man. Dang.
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Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
August 24 2013 13:10 GMT
#24
Good thing he didnt jump in the sea. That part was pretty sad

I shall miss the epic macrogames with robotic consistency in your play.

Thanks for translating
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
August 24 2013 13:17 GMT
#25
What an article, thanks for the translation !
saroir
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany244 Posts
August 24 2013 13:48 GMT
#26
Thanks for the translation.

I will never forget those crazy macro bw games he showed us.
Good luck in whatever you will do best!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#27
Good luck Best!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 24 2013 14:14 GMT
#28
Good interview, the running away seemed kinda dark, must have had a roughtime

On August 24 2013 17:50 Magreidis wrote:
Strangely, he didn't mention about coming back to Brood War.

Maybe he won't, there is not really a career in BW to live from anymore, he might still play casually though i'd wager.

Best of luck to him.
WriterXiao8~~
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 14:42:37
August 24 2013 14:40 GMT
#29
On August 24 2013 14:31 BisuDagger wrote:
Thanks for the article. BeSt really is one of the greatest figures in BW history. I really hope he can still find time for BW. HIs recent game versus INH was surgical getting up to 24 gates ways and 200/200 army with in 12 minutes.

Yeah agreed! Everyone else is talking about him being 'solid'. He was more than solid. He was one of the greatest protoss players ever. He stood behind Bisu, Stork and Jangbi (and often alongside them) at Broodwar's peak.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 24 2013 14:46 GMT
#30
Thank you for all the games, BeSt. GG. Good luck in the future.
The Bomber boy
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
August 24 2013 14:51 GMT
#31
On August 24 2013 18:05 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 17:50 Magreidis wrote:
Strangely, he didn't mention about coming back to Brood War.


I'm guessing maybe he wont?


military
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 24 2013 15:00 GMT
#32
Thanks for the memories. BeSt of luck to you!
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
August 24 2013 15:05 GMT
#33
--- Nuked ---
Comodore
Profile Joined July 2013
Brazil49 Posts
August 24 2013 15:12 GMT
#34
thanks for those who know korean and are willing to translate and share this kind of news with non korean speakers...
Nice post. I hope that Best streams BW now if he have any spare time in army.

Thanks once more for the post!
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
August 24 2013 15:17 GMT
#35
Ggggggg
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tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
August 24 2013 16:02 GMT
#36
Oh who will be the new captain then :o ?
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
August 24 2013 16:05 GMT
#37
Even though I am a KT fan, BeSt will always be special to me. He was simply awesome in BW.
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Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia551 Posts
August 24 2013 16:53 GMT
#38
Bloody hell, stupid fans writing him off against INnoVation... Didn't realise BeSt would take it this way =/ It's truly hard for anyone to reach the top but I think many of the pros have the chance, I guess BeSt had to make an honest assessment of himself and decided he wouldn't get there. With a heavy heart I'll wish him all the best for whatever he goes onto next.
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines399 Posts
August 24 2013 17:12 GMT
#39
Nice interview! well spoken words. gl hf on everything you do!
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ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
August 24 2013 17:15 GMT
#40
Good luck in whatever he chooses to do. Really liked his playstyle, much more overwhelming and intense than Stork's IMO.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 24 2013 17:17 GMT
#41
He's going to do his military now? Smart choice for him
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:01:48
August 24 2013 19:01 GMT
#42
This was a pretty sad read but yet, I'm coming out of it with a positive feeling. BeSt seems like a really nice guy!

Wish you all of the beSt in your future!

On August 25 2013 02:17 amazingxkcd wrote:
He's going to do his military now? Smart choice for him


"choice"
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 24 2013 19:05 GMT
#43
BeSt was always the coolest SKToss
was hoping for shirtless pics sigh
can i get my estro logo back pls
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:06:31
August 24 2013 19:05 GMT
#44
For some good memories



Oldschool BeSt



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BeSt's body

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Glamorous BeSt

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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 24 2013 19:47 GMT
#45
I wasn't really a fan of him when he played, but after reading his story and his struggles, I definitely have a lot more respect for him.
He sometimes thought of running away in the night. Since he was not a well-known progamer and did not have a contract with the team, he believed that if escaped in the early morning and jumped in the sea no one would find him.

That line specifically. Wow.
I'm glad he stuck it through. gl best.
Thanks for the interview
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Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
August 24 2013 20:38 GMT
#46
Best, you are a boss! Your finals appearance in the OSL against July was the first OSL finals I watched :D I cheered for you then, and I will keep doing so! GL in the military~
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
August 24 2013 21:20 GMT
#47
Will always remember, my fondest memoring watching bw involed cheering for SKT for an entire year, and BeSt/Bisu were always my favorite protosses. I Also copied my p v z/p v t from you. I salute you :'(
Gatsbizzle
Profile Joined March 2010
United States132 Posts
August 24 2013 21:25 GMT
#48
Brings a tear to my eye...
Glad Best was able to overcome that initial slump and stick with it to become the Best we know and love. GL to him in his future endeavors!
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X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
August 24 2013 22:34 GMT
#49
Thank you for the translation;; best I may have been rooting for July back in 2008 but you've won me over as a fan
Good luck in the military and in life Doh Jae Wook
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EpicDemente
Profile Joined November 2012
Chile202 Posts
August 24 2013 23:33 GMT
#50
idk much about the BW career, but i will always remember that he beated INnovation amongst all the odds also really funny and humble guy really happy that he enjoyed his career so much, you dont see that really often. GL in everything Mr.Best :D
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MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
August 25 2013 01:27 GMT
#51
And there goes my favorite toss player from BW. I wish him best of luck in the future. I will miss his gateways terribly.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
August 25 2013 01:48 GMT
#52
He was one of my two favorite players. I loved to see him play, and especially to see him play PvT (it was just wonderful). He brought many awesome games and memories. He was one of the reasons I fell in love with PL. I loved watching his games and I will miss his gateway explosion immensely. Best of luck to him in the future.
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
August 25 2013 03:21 GMT
#53
As an SKT fan, I will surely miss Best. Wishing you all the best, Best! I hope you win the sospa league.

Thanks for the translation of this interview.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28086 Posts
August 25 2013 09:55 GMT
#54
Best will be missed. I have a lot of memories.
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 25 2013 10:52 GMT
#55
On August 25 2013 18:55 TheEmulator wrote:
Best will be missed. I have a lot of memories.

One of the beSt memories is him losing 0-3 to July... kind of lol but still, was an awesome finals.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 25 2013 11:00 GMT
#56
Make sure you keep up that macro in real life!
<3 u best
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 25 2013 14:54 GMT
#57
Hope he will be playing more after the army.. its 2 years tho so alot of time still.. ;(

oh well.. good luck in the army and in life in general !
T H C makes ppl happy
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
August 25 2013 15:54 GMT
#58
Thanks for this, BeSt always was one of my favorite Protoss players, I wish him the best of luck in his future.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
GrindMoney
Profile Joined April 2012
Zimbabwe3 Posts
August 25 2013 20:27 GMT
#59
Bye BeSt, you will be missed.
diz ya boi yunqq raeRae
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 26 2013 00:50 GMT
#60
This article is so sad I share best's sentiments and I think they are quite telling of a lot of things :/

I wish him much more than just luck.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
August 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#61
oh BeSt i will miss you! good luck
Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
August 26 2013 02:24 GMT
#62
Commentators and fans have gotten too rude. And it is the fault of the community as a whole. It shouldn't be okay to say one player doesn't have a chance against another, that them winning is just a fluke, etc. BeSt is not the first to say there is too much of it in the community. I have seen many threads on Reddit of people getting tired of esports because of this exact same reason.
"PartinG keeps touching us and groping us (laughs)." - Rain
MercurialVanjal
Profile Joined January 2013
14 Posts
August 26 2013 03:36 GMT
#63
OMG This is sooooo sad....:SSSSS

i was hoping Best can come back after the military service..

Anyway, Best luck to Best!
Parting,Hero,Bomber
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
August 26 2013 08:03 GMT
#64
feeling so much happiness in every moment in his career


except that one time he wanted to run away into the sea
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Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 27 2013 07:56 GMT
#65
Wait Best retired? Sad to see another one go
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 15:30:36
August 27 2013 15:29 GMT
#66
I had no reason to continue being a progamer. Even continuing for one or two more years, I felt it would not be enough to reach the top. The thought that you can achieve anything with just hard work isn't quite true. No matter how hard you try, sometimes some things don't work out. At that time, being honest with yourself and stopping is a brave thing to do."


Wonderful quote and this goes back to what I was saying about players like Bisu and Stork.

On August 27 2013 16:56 Epithet wrote:
Wait Best retired? Sad to see another one go


He was getting ready to go to the Military, saw no benefit in continuing with SC2 atm and wanted to get it out of the way. Let him do his service and then we'll see where he goes from there.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 18:12:53
August 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#67
Thanks for the translation.

I think this was a very P.R. answer and his real reasons are more complicated. The 'always leave them wanting more' is something Effort sort of said too, but it doesn't really apply here. When a comedian or writer says that, they intend to write more, they just want to make the last joke or page strong, so that you'll look forward to next time. When there is no next time, there's no reason to do it. It feels romantic and it feels like a great thing to say, but it's not uncommon that people who go through dramatic exit are also hungry for more, maybe more hungry than their fans were.

I can speculate a lot of reasons, but I think if he isn't having fun anymore such that a comment like 'the current strongest SC2 player is going to take the set' bothers him a lot, then maybe the real reason its time to leave is that he has lost his spirit to prove people wrong, and being a progamer now has become a chore he wants to be acknowledged for. Combine that with knowing that he eventually will have to go to the army no matter what, he might as well quit with people remembering him fondly.

Maybe because in BW, even Flash would not make people count BeSt out, someone like Bogus (ace though he be, for a losing team) being given that much favour over him would feel like falling a long way and be a pretty big blow to his ego. And because he knew he was capable of beating Bogus, and moveover proved it, it ends up feeling like a betrayal. Maybe the article writer is giving us a warped perspective, but that feeling seems at least equal to wanting to be remembered. Add that with maybe not caring about being the greatest player in SC2, and it just feels like a job where you're not being respected for your work.

My thoughts, anyway. I hope he will find something fulfilling after his service.

Wonderful quote and this goes back to what I was saying about players like Bisu and Stork.

I think Bisu and Stork probably have contracts to finish with their teams. They probably pay a good amount too. I get the feeling the article is insinuating more about Boxer or Yellow or TossGirl, maybe almost all of ACE in general. I don't know if that's BeSt's own insinuation (I doubt it), but regardless Bisu and Stork are a totally different situation. They got stuck in the middle of a transition and they're contracted to keep working and practicing. Imagine it more like 'choosing not to renew the contract' than it is leaving whenever you want, because I don't think the latter is legal. I would guess, anyway. I can't consider Bisu or Stork washed out either, because they game they're not winning in is not the game they became known for...
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 27 2013 18:35 GMT
#68
Thanks for translating.

On August 25 2013 06:20 GoTuNk! wrote:
I Also copied my p v z/p v t from you.


wat
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2013 18:36 GMT
#69
Well aware of the last line man. It goes back to my argument with another guy in another thread when it comes down to certain players and their inability to perform in a new game, lol.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 27 2013 19:06 GMT
#70
You are not a walkover Best. Please participate in the next SRT and walkover all these other scrubs!
Jaedong.
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
August 27 2013 19:16 GMT
#71
OMG i can not believe this, many of these Broodwar progamers retiring makes me sad in massive proportions, to think that i grew up watching their games and now many of them are taking a different road in live, its good for them of course and im happy for them but at the same time it makes me really sad to see them go, so many good memories...OH MAN T___T
GL HF Best. You'll be missed.
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
August 28 2013 01:16 GMT
#72
Oh my, this was way deeper than I was prepared for
boomer hands
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 01:41:00
August 28 2013 01:37 GMT
#73
On August 24 2013 14:19 Heyoka wrote:
Cool read, thanks!

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 11:13 juki wrote:
He sometimes thought of running away in the night. Since he was not a well-known progamer and did not have a contract with the team, he believed that if escaped in the early morning and jumped in the sea no one would find him.


Whoah that got dark.


I just read the korean article and that was translated literally. I don't think best was suicidal or actually wanted to jump into the real ocean.

Best was one of my favorite players because he seemed like a confident, bright person. The interview supports that image I have of him and hope he is able to enjoy the next part of his life too.
Translator
juki
Profile Joined April 2012
68 Posts
August 28 2013 07:30 GMT
#74
On August 28 2013 10:37 white_horse wrote:


I just read the korean article and that was translated literally. I don't think best was suicidal or actually wanted to jump into the real ocean.


That's correct; it was a mis-translation on my part. The actual meaning is closer to "laying low" rather than diving into the sea. I've edited it into the original post.

Thanks
PM me if you want a BW-related item translated (stuff on former players is okay as well)
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 28 2013 08:55 GMT
#75
goodbye horse
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
August 28 2013 10:49 GMT
#76
good bye Best, I enjoyed your games!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2013 07:30 GMT
#77
Thanks so much for translating this, I don't check the BW section often these days so I almost missed it.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 01 2013 13:39 GMT
#78
On August 28 2013 03:35 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Thanks for translating.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 06:20 GoTuNk! wrote:
I Also copied my p v z/p v t from you.


wat



BeSt build's were easier to execute as they relied on timing mostly.

Bisu's style on the other hand was to harras zerg to death while expanding and not dying by his superior micro/multitasking, which I never had t.t
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#79
May he find better ways to macro his way to success.
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