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Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
January 14 2013 13:29 GMT
#41
they should really import BW to battle net 0.2, ops i mean 2.0
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 14:01:55
January 14 2013 13:59 GMT
#42
On January 14 2013 09:39 SirKibbleX wrote:
The latency/ip issues. I have tried to run SCBW on about 20 different computers/networks in the last year or two, but I have probably a less than 10% success rate given various router, computer, firewall, IP, and ISP issues. This is ridiculous.


You can't be serious. Unless very specific cases when you're at hotel or at a university dorm and cannot access the router's admin panel it's super easy to host...

But I agree it can definitely discourage newcomers thus preventing BW to expand further.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2013 15:36 GMT
#43
I agree completely.. if only someone would resolve that portforwarding bullshit, BW would be played by much MUCH more people than it is now..

we've seen some amazing work done by people from the BW community during all these years. So someone really NEEDS to do something about that portforwarding. If this issue would be resolved, BW would be at the absolute top again ! imo
T H C makes ppl happy
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2013 15:37 GMT
#44
On January 14 2013 12:39 R1CH wrote:
I'm very surprised iccup hasn't added upnp support to their launcher yet. 99% of routers could be automatically configured via upnp, it would save so many headaches.

well then somebody that knows how to do it should just message them and offer help

that would be amazing
T H C makes ppl happy
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
January 14 2013 17:36 GMT
#45
Maybe we should have a Port foward Festival.

You know like when eye doctors a special day when they remove as many Chataracts from people' s eye in 1 day.
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 14 2013 17:46 GMT
#46
On January 14 2013 11:09 Falling wrote:
Yeah it is a pretty consistent problem with people not being able to host/join. Especially if you have a combination of multiple people on the same wireless network and a couple people spread out. Hard to port-forward for everyone and Hamachi has dropped down to 5 people.

Physical lan still works amazingly though.



Yup, at least we have lan and I can attest to the OP's problems as well. With all my new PCs I've had so many issues just trying to get the stupid game up and hosting is a pain. Thank Blizzard for LAN. -__-

Nah, seriously. If I didn't have LAN I wouldn't be able to have all my friends over to play tournaments.
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
January 14 2013 17:55 GMT
#47
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 14 2013 18:06 GMT
#48
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.
beep boop
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
January 14 2013 18:08 GMT
#49
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada789 Posts
January 14 2013 18:18 GMT
#50
this is a major issue and it could be stopped if there was someone dedicated enough who could host and keep a game up 24/7 called LATENCY TRICK. if 2 people wanted to 1v1 and they both couldnt host, they could join the LATENCY TRICK game and rehost their own private game, this would solve the connection issue
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
January 14 2013 19:27 GMT
#51
I just fixed mine :D

The problem for me was my ports were forwarded properly but my firewall was blocking it since I had the wrong Starcraft allowed (I have two version installed on my computer). If you think your ports are forwarded correctly, make sure you have Starcraft open for public in your firewall. Hope this helps someone.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
January 14 2013 19:30 GMT
#52
Great OP ! That was needed !

Port fowarding mess is basically the sole reason I completely stopped playing BW. If Iccup launcher could solve the problem I think it could be a (relatively) big boost to the foreign BW community.

"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 14 2013 20:19 GMT
#53
On January 15 2013 03:08 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.


But then you have to be gosu
maru G5L pls
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 14 2013 21:06 GMT
#54
If someone has access to their router then 99% of the time I've found it possible to get them to host, portforwarding is not the only thing often, many people have software firewalls or w/e else blocking starcraft by accident and don't even check it.

I've not portforwarded at my most recent location and still had no trouble hosting, if routers have upnp enabled it often works even without forwarding the port.

The real issue is for people at universities or other institutions where they have no access to their router and still have trouble hosting.

@R1CH
What would be involved in adding UPNP support to their launcher? As far as I know iCCup programmer administration has completely given up on supporting broodwar in all but name, all updates are only related to wc3.
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
January 14 2013 21:09 GMT
#55
On January 15 2013 03:08 Game wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.

That's gonna get really annoying if you play rated games, since most Koreans host games with Korean tags in the name, which will make you unable to join their games. You can tell them "no korean", but they're usually too lazy or don't understand you.
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ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
January 14 2013 21:27 GMT
#56
On January 15 2013 06:09 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:08 Game wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.

That's gonna get really annoying if you play rated games, since most Koreans host games with Korean tags in the name, which will make you unable to join their games. You can tell them "no korean", but they're usually too lazy or don't understand you.


+ fish lags like hell when you're from europe + the difficulty + 0 interaction with other players + the shit launcher that makes korean ads pop-up in your browser + playing FS 99 times out of 100 and so on ....
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
January 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#57
On January 15 2013 06:09 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:08 Game wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.

That's gonna get really annoying if you play rated games, since most Koreans host games with Korean tags in the name, which will make you unable to join their games. You can tell them "no korean", but they're usually too lazy or don't understand you.

I disagree. I have never ever, ever, ever had a problem with Koreans when they give me Korean characters. I say "make in English", they do, and they never disc on me. I don't use any of their launchers or anything, for all they know I'm some random hacker from the USA.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:31:21
January 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#58
On January 15 2013 06:09 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:08 Game wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.

That's gonna get really annoying if you play rated games, since most Koreans host games with Korean tags in the name, which will make you unable to join their games. You can tell them "no korean", but they're usually too lazy or don't understand you.


Thats never ever been an issue for me. I can read the game names (hangul is very easy to learn!!) fine so I know when they are asking for a certain race etc. All I ever say at the start is

hi
w
ggyo

And it works. And in the case of ladder if you say "english name plz TT" they will almost always rehost.

|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
January 15 2013 02:53 GMT
#59
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.


It's really easy.

I just have college internet. ;;
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 03:30:54
January 15 2013 03:30 GMT
#60
On January 15 2013 06:09 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 03:08 Game wrote:
On January 15 2013 03:06 7mk wrote:
On January 15 2013 02:55 Sayle wrote:
Maybe I'm just lucky but I've had no trouble being able to host on four different computers in varying locations. Forwarding your ports is dead easy.

It is and I used to think it would always solve the problem but for many people, myself now included, it doesnt

Honestly the fact that it takes me so long to get games going is the #1 reason I play a lot more SC2 than BW.

Play Fish. Problem solved.

That's gonna get really annoying if you play rated games, since most Koreans host games with Korean tags in the name, which will make you unable to join their games. You can tell them "no korean", but they're usually too lazy or don't understand you.


Totally not true in my experience. Of the few games i played (9 out of the 10 games), literally, they will change the before #l2 part with numbers or letters. Of course if people act like a tards and expect them to do this with a rude or bully manner way screaming then no. You are playing on a server where the main language is korean so you must respect that, its not English. Just ask nicely and they will be more happy to play you. Some even speak a bit of english and ask you where you from (not while there 2 gating you).

That being said the problem is not solved because on fish peopleapperently think Broodwar is chess and play only FS.
Some of us want to play other maps. Also as much as FS is the most balanced map in existance it is still not balanced enough to be the perfect map balanced.
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
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