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Canada11607 Posts
On November 14 2012 17:58 Shockk wrote:
It's been a while since I've been to the Broodwar forums, but this thread is outright depressing. Not because of the sad news for SSL, but because of the reactions of the vast majority of posters in this thread.
All there is at the moment is one side of the story and so far there are four pages of massive anti-SC2, anti-Blizzard circlejerk, filled to the brim with hate and hyperbole. Sure, the current state of BW is nothing to be too happy about. But if this is TeamLiquid's reaction to the issue (or at least TL's BW crowd), then please, don't act surprised if TL and the "Broodwar elitists" are met with disdain everywhere else.
This may be one of the last great bastions of BW fandom on the web, this may be your little club to hang out and socialize, but you're doing an abysmal job of representing the oh-so "mature" StarCraft community.
What is the mature and reasonable reaction you are expecting? If after 12 years, all the SC2 tourneys got shut down or tranitioned into MOBA games. All the pros and casters retire or switch to MOBA games. And then one guy started up a SC2 tourney because he's passionate about it. And then a bunch of the old SC2 pro's started showing up. And then Tastosis said they'd like to cast the finals. So you're super psyched. And then Blizzard drops a cease and desist two days before the tourney?
What other reaction is there?
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dafuq man 
makes me so sad ._.
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:30 FractalsOnFire wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 18:22 JohnChoi wrote:On November 14 2012 17:07 supernovamaniac wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
이건 아니다 정말... 게임이 두개있으면, 사람이 하고싶은걸 하게 놔두고, 그나마 아직도 좋아하는사람들을 위해 살려둬야지, 그냥 이렇게 죽이는건 아니다. 옛날에 캐스파때문이라고해도, 개인방송리그는 개인이니까 거기에 맞춰서 돈을 받아야지, 이렇게 뒤통수치는건 아니다.
Ugh. dam this.. i complete agree with this -_- Translation please!
Translation:
"This isn't it... if there are two games, just let the people choose what they want to play. At least leave (brood war) alone for those who still enjoy it, it's wrong to kill it off like this. In the past, let's say it was due to KeSPA (the contract-pay saga)'s fault, but now, this is a personal thing so at least adjust the (license fee) accordingly. Just stabbing (the brood war fans) like this is wrong"
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Russian Federation181 Posts
blizzard is a shit but what can we do, cant stop them law is on their side, and sc2 is very popular outside korea
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The anger here is fully understandable. SSL gave a glimmer of hope to a new BW scene in Korea when most bw fans thought that it had died with the decline of MSL/OSL. It had so much potential, juice girls, a studio, kim carrier for finals! Sonic has a diehard fanbase though and i think he'll work it out somehow.
A more troubling aspect of this is the lawsuit against afreeca and that the barrier for starting up a little tournament is raised, very hard for new people to organize something without a large fanbase.
That said, + Show Spoiler +
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
this should be in front page of TL
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On November 14 2012 18:37 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 17:58 Shockk wrote:
It's been a while since I've been to the Broodwar forums, but this thread is outright depressing. Not because of the sad news for SSL, but because of the reactions of the vast majority of posters in this thread.
All there is at the moment is one side of the story and so far there are four pages of massive anti-SC2, anti-Blizzard circlejerk, filled to the brim with hate and hyperbole. Sure, the current state of BW is nothing to be too happy about. But if this is TeamLiquid's reaction to the issue (or at least TL's BW crowd), then please, don't act surprised if TL and the "Broodwar elitists" are met with disdain everywhere else.
This may be one of the last great bastions of BW fandom on the web, this may be your little club to hang out and socialize, but you're doing an abysmal job of representing the oh-so "mature" StarCraft community. What is the mature and reasonable reaction you are expecting? If over the last couple years, all the SC2 tourneys got shut down or tranitioned into MOBA games. All the pros and casters retire or switch to MOBA games. And then one guy started up a SC2 tourney just for fun. And then a bunch of the old SC2 pro's started showing up. And then Tastosis said they'd like to cast the finals. So you're super psyched. And then Blizzard drops a cease and desist two days before the tourney? What other reaction is there?
I just want to give you a massive high-5, and since your a mod I wont say what I want to say to the other guy :D
On November 14 2012 18:40 konadora wrote:
this should be in front page of TL
AGREEEEEED!!!
FALLING! :D
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United States1719 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:39 Abjurer wrote:The anger here is fully understandable. SSL gave a glimmer of hope to a new BW scene in Korea when most bw fans thought that it had died with the decline of MSL/OSL. It had so much potential, juice girls, a studio, kim carrier for finals! Sonic has a diehard fanbase though and i think he'll work it out somehow. A more troubling aspect of this is the lawsuit against afreeca and that the barrier for starting up a little tournament is raised, very hard for new people to organize something without a large fanbase. That said, + Show Spoiler +
On the other hand, I am kinda glad they sued afreeca, because that is a sure-fire way to piss off every single Korean netizen and ensure you have single-digit HOTS sales coming from Korea
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10387 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:37 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 17:58 Shockk wrote:
It's been a while since I've been to the Broodwar forums, but this thread is outright depressing. Not because of the sad news for SSL, but because of the reactions of the vast majority of posters in this thread.
All there is at the moment is one side of the story and so far there are four pages of massive anti-SC2, anti-Blizzard circlejerk, filled to the brim with hate and hyperbole. Sure, the current state of BW is nothing to be too happy about. But if this is TeamLiquid's reaction to the issue (or at least TL's BW crowd), then please, don't act surprised if TL and the "Broodwar elitists" are met with disdain everywhere else.
This may be one of the last great bastions of BW fandom on the web, this may be your little club to hang out and socialize, but you're doing an abysmal job of representing the oh-so "mature" StarCraft community. What is the mature and reasonable reaction you are expecting? If over the last couple years, all the SC2 tourneys got shut down or tranitioned into MOBA games. All the pros and casters retire or switch to MOBA games. And then one guy started up a SC2 tourney just for fun. And then a bunch of the old SC2 pro's started showing up. And then Tastosis said they'd like to cast the finals. So you're super psyched. And then Blizzard drops a cease and desist two days before the tourney? What other reaction is there?
not just for fun, but out of passion. Sonic had a vision for the revival Broodwar and was set to share his incredible love for the game, reigniting the passion and hope of many other BW fans who had thought it was gone .....
Seriously, this development is the most heart-breaking thing for him, and for me too.
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
so what is blizzard going to do next? sue teamliquid for hosting brood war content and allowing people to publicise their own brood war tournaments?
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This is total bullshit...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:40 rotinegg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 18:39 Abjurer wrote:The anger here is fully understandable. SSL gave a glimmer of hope to a new BW scene in Korea when most bw fans thought that it had died with the decline of MSL/OSL. It had so much potential, juice girls, a studio, kim carrier for finals! Sonic has a diehard fanbase though and i think he'll work it out somehow. A more troubling aspect of this is the lawsuit against afreeca and that the barrier for starting up a little tournament is raised, very hard for new people to organize something without a large fanbase. That said, + Show Spoiler + On the other hand, I am kinda glad they sued afreeca, because that is a sure-fire way to piss off every single Korean netizen and ensure you have single-digit HOTS sales coming from Korea
eh mutually assured destruction+ Show Spoiler +not sure if that is the correct term..
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Canada11607 Posts
On November 14 2012 18:40 PiPoGevy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 18:37 Falling wrote:On November 14 2012 17:58 Shockk wrote:
It's been a while since I've been to the Broodwar forums, but this thread is outright depressing. Not because of the sad news for SSL, but because of the reactions of the vast majority of posters in this thread.
All there is at the moment is one side of the story and so far there are four pages of massive anti-SC2, anti-Blizzard circlejerk, filled to the brim with hate and hyperbole. Sure, the current state of BW is nothing to be too happy about. But if this is TeamLiquid's reaction to the issue (or at least TL's BW crowd), then please, don't act surprised if TL and the "Broodwar elitists" are met with disdain everywhere else.
This may be one of the last great bastions of BW fandom on the web, this may be your little club to hang out and socialize, but you're doing an abysmal job of representing the oh-so "mature" StarCraft community. What is the mature and reasonable reaction you are expecting? If over the last couple years, all the SC2 tourneys got shut down or tranitioned into MOBA games. All the pros and casters retire or switch to MOBA games. And then one guy started up a SC2 tourney just for fun. And then a bunch of the old SC2 pro's started showing up. And then Tastosis said they'd like to cast the finals. So you're super psyched. And then Blizzard drops a cease and desist two days before the tourney? What other reaction is there? I just want to give you a massive high-5, and since your a mod I wont say what I want to say to the other guy :D AGREEEEEED!!! FALLING! :D
I don't have front page powers.
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I am trying my absolute hardest not to go rage on the Blizzard Forums, ABSOLUTE HARDEST!
On November 14 2012 18:45 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 18:40 PiPoGevy wrote:On November 14 2012 18:37 Falling wrote:On November 14 2012 17:58 Shockk wrote:
It's been a while since I've been to the Broodwar forums, but this thread is outright depressing. Not because of the sad news for SSL, but because of the reactions of the vast majority of posters in this thread.
All there is at the moment is one side of the story and so far there are four pages of massive anti-SC2, anti-Blizzard circlejerk, filled to the brim with hate and hyperbole. Sure, the current state of BW is nothing to be too happy about. But if this is TeamLiquid's reaction to the issue (or at least TL's BW crowd), then please, don't act surprised if TL and the "Broodwar elitists" are met with disdain everywhere else.
This may be one of the last great bastions of BW fandom on the web, this may be your little club to hang out and socialize, but you're doing an abysmal job of representing the oh-so "mature" StarCraft community. What is the mature and reasonable reaction you are expecting? If over the last couple years, all the SC2 tourneys got shut down or tranitioned into MOBA games. All the pros and casters retire or switch to MOBA games. And then one guy started up a SC2 tourney just for fun. And then a bunch of the old SC2 pro's started showing up. And then Tastosis said they'd like to cast the finals. So you're super psyched. And then Blizzard drops a cease and desist two days before the tourney? What other reaction is there? I just want to give you a massive high-5, and since your a mod I wont say what I want to say to the other guy :D On November 14 2012 18:40 konadora wrote:
this should be in front page of TL AGREEEEEED!!! FALLING! :D I don't have front page powers.
Damn...
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
some mod please post this on the front page
this atrocity needs to be publicised
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On November 14 2012 18:40 konadora wrote:
this should be in front page of TL
If you want Sc2 fan posts all over this thread, an amazing idea.
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This is a fucking outrage. Jesus Christ, Blizz. You're trying to be the bad guys, right?
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dont know why on earth blizzard would do this...disgusting!
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+ Show Spoiler +우선 블리자드 측에 정상적으로 라이센스 따고.
결승전 진행 어떻게든 마치겠습니다.
우선 라이센스 부분에 있어서, 미숙하게 처리 한점. 방송 진행에 문제 생기게 해서 기다리게 한 점 부터 시작해서 선수분들 시청자분들. 그리고 저 도와주려고. 발 벗고 나서서 도와주신분들에게 다시 한번 사과의 말씀 드리겠습니다.
무슨일이 있어도. 일 처리 제대로 하고. 제대로 진행 해보겠습니다.
죄송합니다
우선 계약 걸려있는 부분들이나. 손해 보는것들은. 제 잘못이라 생각하고. 제가 감당해야 할 부분이니 제 자신이 너무 밉습니다.ㅠㅠ
그래도 끝이 아니라. 공식적으로 제대로 라이센스 따고.. 다시 달려봐요 우리..ㅠㅠ!
The finals will play out no matter what.
first off regarding my unskilled handling of licenses, and making you all, viewers and players, have to wait and for those ppl who put time and hardwork into helping me. I'd like to sincerely apologize.
Whatever happens I will resolve this correctly. I will try to run things as professionally as possible.
I'm sorry
again rough translation of new sonic post :l
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Posted something on official Blizzard FB page, and will do again at WCS this week end.
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