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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-19 02:52:19
December 18 2005 23:01 GMT
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We are closing in on Christmas and the great event Americup2 brings us a nice present: (Thank you PuertoRican!)

Eriador Vs Daaman:
Here's an interview with Eriador himself! The answers are very good and we had a good time making this interview.. Before and after this interview we talked about Futurama, my stupid school assignments and many other things!

I copied this from my Americup covrage at gamingeye.com so enjoy!

Hi Eriador! or do you prefer being called Drone?

oh, you can call me eri that's what im the most used to.. But anything goes or works

Cool. You play random only? Or racepicker?

random only. I have considered playing only zvt cause it's so much more fun than tvt and pvt but the problem with that is, picked zvt isn't fun at all cause then I have to worry about all kinds of bullshitty rax first builds that aren't actually bullshitty, but I would be forced to play safer early on and that wouldn't be as fun cause zerg is only fun with 2 gas otherwise they're boring =(

Oh.. You lost first round of Am2 after amazing play game2, felt bad?

haha no I didn't care at all actually I was happy with winning the zvt, cause beforehand I said I was gonna lose tvt for sure, probably lose pvt and probably win zvt. and I also got to show off a unit i've been advocating the use of for the past year and a half. Im way more happy with winning that game in such a stylish manner than I am sad about playing horrible and getting raped in the other two (and the two games I lost were tvt and pvt)

Yes, I would feel that way also!
You won 2-0 versus ZpuX, comment his play and your win!

hehe well both games I got random protoss and both games I dt dropped and both games his observers were just a bit late so I got some kills that gave me economical advantage and then I just played safe from there on he played alright but had the timing a couple seconds wrong and I also think he should stop building 2 zealots pvp unless he gets harassed or harasses of his own cause that set back his core in both games and I dunno if I'd have done what I did otherwise the games didn't really show much, but I was satisfied with how I played

pvp is pretty easy though like, I'm pretty rusty at the time being, but the only thing that suffers is my macro. in pvp, macroing is very easy so it's a matchup where I play well and I harassed pretty well and well my build worked out both games

Indeed. Your next opponent is Daaman, a friend of yours and since he's racepicker it could very well end up as rvr, a tough fight?

I look forward to playing him although I do expect the games to be random vs random and then it largely depends on what races we end up getting. The last time I played him was in a teamliquid staff tournament where I won 3-2, and well the only thing those games showed was that whoever gets zerg wins and whoever gets terran loses

but I think he might be in better shape than he was at that time and im roughly the same I guess but yeah, it should make for some good games. I do believe they might be decided by what matchups we get though. i'll be very surprised if we play pvz with protoss winning.

Guess so! I would love for you getting zerg and him terran. Who will win?

I think it'll be close but I also think I will end up winning. me zerg him terran is probably the most entertaining matchup, him being very good tvz and me having a potentially very good zvt. Im very inconsistent in zvt though and my style of play doesn't allow for micro mistakes early on so anything can happen

Yes, gonna be awsome! You won very nicely vs TreK and also 2v2 with Rapide in the Nationwar vs Sweden, comments?

well me vs trek was another one of those decided by random matchups.. trek is a racepicker while im random, and that means he only has 3 strong matchups, and that's even while he was active.. now he's inactive in addition.. and then we played me z him p, which is among my best and his worst, and then me t him z, where I managed to hurt him early on which is not one of his best matchups either so I was lucky with that.. and then in the 2v2s well I worked out nicely together with rapide and kadaze just weren't good enough

Randomplayers > racepickers?

yes. it's like, as a random player, I play all 9 matchups, but none of them a lot, but still far more than a racepicker plays his non-matchups-of-his-choice. so like, say in the example of trek, he played tvz zvp pvt.. for that reason he ended up playing more tvz, more zvp and more pvt than me, but less zvt, pvz and tvp. (and also less zvz pvp tvt. ) for that reason I will if playing a racepicker of equal skill generally be significantly better at 6 matchups and a tad worse at 3.
and when I then get two I am significantly better at, it's good for me. but the last tourney I played trek in I ended up getting tvp, pvt and pvz, and he won 2-1 then. I was really drunk though but still it shows my point!

people who only pick 1 race likewise do better than racepickers who attempt to random, because for them, they will have more practice in every matchup than me. however then the random advantage evens things out.

True. Daaman lost 1-2 versus yAn. Suprised?

not really yan is very good and one of the players I expected to leave our group in addition daaman says he's much worse vs terran and I have no problems believing that


Ok. Guess you dont play much anymore at all but how often did you play Daaman in the days? How would you describe his style, weakness/ strength?

I didn't play very much against him and when we did the games were often silly or onesided
he has strong strategy and micro and macro is probably a weaker point for him, perhaps he is not that great at controlling large amounts of units

I'm not really sure though, he's better than I am at that he's a bit more solid and consistent than I am but while he has a couple of tricks up his sleeves, I have a couple more

Hehe! And that brings us to following question; Whats your style? Weakness/ strength?

hehe..my style, it varies a lot depending on matchup, but ideally, when I play my best I try to take control of the game and dictate it into several small battles continously going on, or to cripple my opponent early on as opposed to there being a long buildup period before we have a large battle. I'm terrible at those matches

but I have good micro, at times great builds, and I'm rather creative and I have several tricks+ I have great intuition allowing me to read my opponent
owever I have absolutely crap macro, and my timing is off. (so are my builds, which is what the "at times" is about, sometimes they just miss completely)
basically I generally want to keep the game as small and resource-lacking as possible, because then I'm very good, but if both me and my opponent have lots of time to power, that's bad for me because I'm not good at controlling large amounts of units nor good at building large amounts of units.

Your style is sort of oldschool? These days it feels like thats not a very common style.. And also, What player had or have a very good eriador counter?

I guess part of what I do is oldschool, but it really all depends on matchup.. I guess people are most excited about my zvt because that's what I play "different" from other people, but zvt is in fact the least oldschool of my matchups and the only one I have developed in the past year. for the longest period of time, pretty much the entire time when I was active, I played muta into hydra lurker and stuff like that..

but I also built the occasional queen, and I tried to do fun stuff with them like, ensnare scvs before a lurker drop, and infesting.. I used to infest and ensnare 5-6 years ago as well, and I never really stopped with it, but it's only in the past year, in fact during a period of time where I have hardly played at all, where I have developed my current style which is lurker ling with fast queen into defiler rush which manages to do exactly what I was talking about; keep both me and my opponent low economy, and gives me all tech available

as for countering me, that also depends on matchup. tvz, tvp, tvt, I lose that frequently against any good zerg, protoss and terran player. zvz I lose against anyone, zvt and zvp I generally feel that there's no strong counter to what I do apart from playing better than me, although there are ways to do better against me but I don't really feel like sharing what those ways are, as I'd like my style to keep being successful.

but generally I only lose zvp and zvt when I myself feel I play badly, or when the map is hard for zerg. pvt I can lose against any very good terran, pvz likewise, and pvp is something I very rarely lose as long as I get to scout the protoss with my probe, but if I don't then the early game becomes a guessinggame which I might lose (but which I am also usually good at. ) zvt and zvp being so good is also partially caused by random really benefitting you when you get zerg, and not really giving any benefit when you random terran or protoss. wow im writing long answers I guess I love talking about myself

Actually long answers are good answers! So anyway you cant tell any specific player who you didnt like playing / dont like playing? And also, how did you do playing SaFT, Elky, NTT, Slayer and Sven in the days?

hmm I don't know, I generally don't like playing zerg players, but in tournaments it's fine cause there's plenty of cheese possible. I've lost much against testie, but it's really not because he plays that great, mostly just that I fuck up more against him than against anyone else. I also do stuff that manages to impress myself while I'm playing against him though, so I guess it goes both ways.

as for saft, ntt elky slayer and sven; (only back in the day) saft raped me every time I played him, slayer raped me every time I played him, sven raped me every time cept once (played between 5 and 10 games vs each), I beat ntt 6-1 (when he was at his best), but that was a combination of me cheesing, us playing dire straits (where I was really good), and him fucking around

elky I have always done very well against and I've always been winning about 50% against him, even when he was a top of the line progamer
I generally do better against people the more I play against them (because it usually allows me to figure out their style and thus counter appropriately while figuring out my style is harder, because 1) I mix up my play a lot and 2) because I play every race. ) and for that reason, there aren't many people I end up doing badly against after I've played a lot with them.

I see. Did you ever have "practice partners", friend or gamers you played alot with?

the closest thing to that has been nazgul, whom ive played like 150 1v1 games with probably.. but in the past 5 years I haven't ever been like, someone who just played the same person over and over I like to surprise people and that doesn't work out as well when ive played someone 50 games, and for that reason I think there are less than 5 people I've played 50 games with. nazgul elky rekrul and testie are probably the ones ive played most with, but rek elky and testie are all around 50 games at most, probably less. if you go 6 years back I played 30 games against assem over 3 days, I think I won 27-3 or so


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Picture of Eri(left) and Nazgul at wcg04


Cool. Did you ever play alot with koreans?

nope, occasionally I'd play a friend of nazgul when he lived in korea but I've never hung out and played a lot on west or gamei or pgtour or neogamei.

Ok... What's your current view on StarCraft? Will you ever stop playing or post at tl.net?

haha probably one day but I have no idea when, I enjoy the community a lot.. as for playing, I don't think im ever gonna be playing really much, but I wasn't one who ever played really much in the first place..currently im as active as ive been in about a year tho and im enjoying it

Ok! Well then I wish you the best of luck in Americup and any other tournament or w/e=] And I hope for some good games between you and Daaman! But before we end it, one final question from Daaman!

Daaman: what role does money play in your life?


oh. I'm extremely careless with my money and I have been mistaken for being rich, which I am not at all, simply because I care so little about it. it makes me go broke at times, but those times I find something inexpensive to do with my spare time and mooch some of my friends, and likewise when I have money I spoil them back

I won't ever be rich, hopefully never poor, but I'm certain i'll get by

Hehe ok thx cya

cya

Notes
1. The oldschool gamers I asked about (ntt slayer etc) was the first ones I came to think about, no other reason for picking them and not, for example Nazgul or Smuft etc.

2. A few smileys :D and a few others got corrupted during copy+paste from MSN. Sorry.

Finally a big thanks to Eriador and also, Im chasing Daaman for an interview aswell, I might post it with translated version of my "after playing Squall interview" with FrozenArbiter (also a very nice guy)

Anyway Daaman agreed yesterday so the interview with him should get posted later on--;


Orginal at gamingeye.com --->

Americup2 home: GGL.com --->

Replaypack week2 all included--->

Interview with Daaman--->
[ReD]Ekii
Profile Joined December 2005
149 Posts
December 18 2005 23:08 GMT
#2
nice stuff :O!
2dd
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium421 Posts
December 18 2005 23:12 GMT
#3
cool =) nice intervieuw!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 18 2005 23:39 GMT
#4
might be a bit confusing because when I type on msn I tend to disregard punctuation and instead I just press enter to indicate that my sentence stopped. so when he copy pasted without adding , or . it's a bit hard to follow at times.

but nice questions
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-18 23:44:35
December 18 2005 23:41 GMT
#5
On December 19 2005 08:39 Liquid`Drone wrote:
might be a bit confusing because when I type on msn I tend to disregard punctuation and instead I just press enter to indicate that my sentence stopped. so when he copy pasted without adding , or . it's a bit hard to follow at times.

but nice questions


Its fine! The answers rocked thats why I asked random stuff, not just about ggl
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 18 2005 23:53 GMT
#6
nice interview
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rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-18 23:59:25
December 18 2005 23:59 GMT
#7
I love all liquid clan members, such nice guys -_-;;
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BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
December 19 2005 00:29 GMT
#8
gj, very interesting interview.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
December 19 2005 00:52 GMT
#9
Niceeeeee :D

Fun read
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 19 2005 01:15 GMT
#10
really nice interview :D
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
December 19 2005 01:15 GMT
#11
awesome

random >>>>>>>>>>. racepicking! so true
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pighoe
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden105 Posts
December 19 2005 01:19 GMT
#12
gw pat and niice LONG answers eri
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
December 19 2005 01:31 GMT
#13
Awesome (and long) interview, many thanks to both Pat and Eri!

I'm a random player too, Eri is my hero~~
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
December 19 2005 02:22 GMT
#14
Hahaha, Eri you're such a character. I'm glad that you don't try and be overly modest all the time like those people trying to fake being "manner" when they really think something else about themself, another player, how they played one day, etc.

Keep speaking your mind in interviews Eri, I'll always appriciate your straight up answers.
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Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
December 19 2005 02:38 GMT
#15
On December 19 2005 08:01 Patriot.dlk wrote:
I won't ever be rich, hopefully never poor, but I'm certain i'll get by


Just start playing poker(more) like all inactive/reta..retired BW-players do.

Nice interview.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 19 2005 02:41 GMT
#16
i'd rather be poor than play poker
:[
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HappyManRun
Profile Joined November 2005
1111 Posts
December 19 2005 02:56 GMT
#17
Haha that's the spirit! poker wastes ppl away :p

Nice interview, hehe I wonder why don't ppl wraith rush you :D Anyways ur ZvT rocks... I hate macro too, and large battles but I can never manage to cripple them enough so they don't have large army haha... guess my hands are too slow
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Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
December 19 2005 03:02 GMT
#18
And what's up with your gay pose on the picture?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 19 2005 03:05 GMT
#19
thats just how naz makes me feel
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Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
December 19 2005 03:08 GMT
#20
sexy pic ^^
nice iv ~~
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ther
Profile Joined January 2005
Hungary252 Posts
December 19 2005 03:24 GMT
#21
On December 19 2005 11:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:
i'd rather be poor than play poker
:[

Maybe play it on the net with play money, be skilled, get money from somewhere, and beat everyone with real money ^^
hO?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 19 2005 03:25 GMT
#22
you really didn't understand me :p
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 19 2005 03:29 GMT
#23
gl eri! looking forward to all your matches always nice games.
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Austria1763 Posts
December 19 2005 03:31 GMT
#24
hehe eri u still rock !
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Canada580 Posts
December 19 2005 04:00 GMT
#25
sexy picture!!!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
December 19 2005 04:06 GMT
#26
I might just become a fan after this interview.

Straight up answers, thank you.
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United States4650 Posts
December 19 2005 07:00 GMT
#27
Very good read plus you gave away strategies on how to beat you
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Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
December 19 2005 07:05 GMT
#28
Good read, even excepting the lack of punctuation. I've always thought you were one of the cooler progamers out there, and this only confirms it.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
December 19 2005 07:30 GMT
#29
Cool interview, I liked it because I really didn't know anything about Drone's BW-days. Except for that pylon-wall replay and the recent queen game (and of course hearing people mention him amongst greats of the past).

That's a cool pic with you and he other admin Nazgul. How'd you guys meet anyways?
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rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
December 19 2005 07:38 GMT
#30
Uh they were both and drone still is Top in there country, they met at WCG, probably a few times now?
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 19 2005 08:43 GMT
#31
first time we met was when I decided to travel to holland for 2 weeks cuz I wanted to meet him and holland is a pretty cool place to spend your vacation when you're a stoner anyway. this was the summer 2003
then I had a bunch of fun and also got to know raszi and oaral and meat more
then the second time I met him I went to holland with a friend for 4 days and we stayed at raszi's place and oaral and raszi's friend was there and naz and meat came later but I really didn't talk that much to either. then the third time was at wcg, then the fourth time when I went to nazgul and raszi's place for 10 days in august or something this year.
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nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 19 2005 11:28 GMT
#32
really cool interview, another question though
do you think the switch from micro-orientated play to macro-orientated play has ruined creativity in broodwar? has it made it harder for you to be creative and successfull?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
December 19 2005 11:34 GMT
#33
Nazgul looks anorexic... or like he has aids :/
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 19 2005 11:45 GMT
#34
norty : somewhat, yes. but also just the fact that people are so good at doing the same things over and over and that strategies are so perfected that sometimes the only way to win is through doing something normal just better than him. it's map dependant though. luna doesn't give much room for creativity but it's such a "smooth", flawless map that macroing becomes both very "easy" and effective. unlike say, plains 2 hill, where simply moving units out of your main is somewhat of a bitch. however that map has many cliffs and island expansions which offer for a lot more diversity in your play. however I also think a problem is that the terran players nowadays would be too strong on more "oldschool" maps with more cliffs and fun stuff, because they're able to execute so much more than players were able to do earlier.

but at the same time there are always situations occuring where being creative pays off.. brood war has so many different variables that it's always possible to hide something, fake something, trap units somehow etc, even if the build order is not creative, there's still room for creativity in very many battles. and personally I don't think me being worse now than I was at my peak has much to do with creativity having less importance, but rather that I haven't improved at all, in fact my speed (and as a consequence, macro) has deteriorated, while most others have improved.

also -_-; nazgul does in fact have aids. thanks for drawing attention towards it.

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nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
December 19 2005 12:04 GMT
#35
yeah, I feel the same way too and thats why I find straightforward maps like Luna very boring and I refuse to play them alot of the time. I use to enjoy watching replays more than actually playing because every one would be unique, I think its just how broodwar has evolved over time. It's sad, but as you said theres still room for creativity in broodwar and thats why I still play the game
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gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2791 Posts
December 19 2005 14:51 GMT
#36
Nice interview. Good job Eriador.
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Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 19 2005 15:40 GMT
#37
On December 19 2005 20:45 Liquid`Drone wrote:

also -_-; nazgul does in fact have aids. thanks for drawing attention towards it.



Haha didn´t know that you get aids from piggies

The interview was really so typical Eri and very nice.

On December 19 2005 11:41 Liquid`Drone wrote:
i'd rather be poor than play poker
:[


Thats just gold

I am looking forward to the game Eri vs Tomas
mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
December 19 2005 15:59 GMT
#38
kind of reminds me of when i concluded that it was easier to be starving than to work for food.
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ther
Profile Joined January 2005
Hungary252 Posts
December 20 2005 03:27 GMT
#39
On December 19 2005 12:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
you really didn't understand me :p

Maybe My English is a bit bad
hO?
greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
December 20 2005 03:50 GMT
#40
nice, random players own!!!
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 20 2005 07:09 GMT
#41
On December 20 2005 12:27 ther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2005 12:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
you really didn't understand me :p

Maybe My English is a bit bad


Nah don´t worry he is Trønder, none understands them
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
December 20 2005 07:13 GMT
#42
haha you're not one to make fun of my norwegian ok?
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2ndFoundation
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Germany212 Posts
December 20 2005 07:40 GMT
#43
nice interview love it when saft, sven, slayer, ntt, naz are are nounced in same breath =)
eri u rock
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December 20 2005 07:47 GMT
#44
Haha didn´t know that you get aids from piggies

ROFL!
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