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Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
May 10 2012 05:57 GMT
#461
On May 10 2012 14:55 Noispaxen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:52 Nightshade_ wrote:
I've seen FBH KR ladder stats, he's barely above 50% in high masters as PROTOSS. So he's no doin too well


How is high masters in KR/TW not good after ~2weeks of playing?

Gosh, this topic is full of pesimistic people... All this stuff sounds purely exciting to me!

considering all you need to have to be high masters is macro and decision making, and BW pros have that, a 53% or so win rate on ladder is average
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
May 10 2012 05:58 GMT
#462
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw



This post just makes me rage. Not the fact that Flash plays SC2, I plan on supporting him and hope he does well (if he stays terran). But you are trying to rub your 1 inch esports dick in the face long time fans of Flash.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 06:01:08
May 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#463
On May 10 2012 14:52 Nightshade_ wrote:
I've seen FBH KR ladder stats, he's barely above 50% in high masters as PROTOSS. So he's no doin too well


new to the game, new race, 50% in the hardest server? I'm sure you could teach him a thing or 2

EDIT: for good merit
On May 10 2012 14:58 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw



This post just makes me rage. Not the fact that Flash plays SC2, I plan on supporting him and hope he does well (if he stays terran). But you are trying to rub your 1 inch esports dick in the face long time fans of Flash.

jaedong imba
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
May 10 2012 06:03 GMT
#464
11 hour opening day is making me jelly
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
May 10 2012 06:04 GMT
#465
hell yeah im gonna watch this season Proleague, evry single second, my body ... hope u'll be okay
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 10 2012 06:04 GMT
#466
On May 10 2012 15:00 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:52 Nightshade_ wrote:
I've seen FBH KR ladder stats, he's barely above 50% in high masters as PROTOSS. So he's no doin too well


new to the game, new race, 50% in the hardest server? I'm sure you could teach him a thing or 2

EDIT: for good merit
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:58 DyEnasTy wrote:
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw



This post just makes me rage. Not the fact that Flash plays SC2, I plan on supporting him and hope he does well (if he stays terran). But you are trying to rub your 1 inch esports dick in the face long time fans of Flash.



Its the same dude posting that crap, he is just a bad troll. Best to ignore him.
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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
May 10 2012 06:11 GMT
#467
On May 10 2012 14:49 rslee wrote:
The main problem I see occurring is that the same 6 players will be repeatedly played more than usual.

Say you have FBB playing BW for SKT. Since you want them playing BW again ASAP, the next game, they'll be sent for SC2. The other 3 spots can alternate, but say you have Sun, S2 and Hyuk. If they play SC2 the first match, and the next match sOO, S2, Hyuk play BW, Sun will be on a 2 match break assuming the FBB line isn't broken.

This whole alternating lineup thing can get very confusing and very dirty real fast.

Yeah, they should've just let the teams choose who plays what throughout the season. It's not like everyone in the SC2 half would just be pure B-teamers because of the ace match(which needs experienced players that can handle an important game) and even if some teams will decide to send the bottom half of their roster for the sc2 matches, they could still dominate just like the other B-teamers who transitioned earlier. I know that they're just helping the players prepare for the pure SC2 switch next next season, but, imo, this silly alternating games rule is just a stupid way to force the teams' main line-ups to play both games which could've been done better.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 06:18:52
May 10 2012 06:13 GMT
#468
On May 10 2012 14:58 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw



This post just makes me rage. Not the fact that Flash plays SC2, I plan on supporting him and hope he does well (if he stays terran). But you are trying to rub your 1 inch esports dick in the face long time fans of Flash.


The whole thread has been chocked full of sc2 trolls going after anyone who's a fan of BW with "I told you so" and "look who's laughing now" since it was created. Really could you expect anything different with how things have been going on TL forums lately? I'm really not going to be surprised if I log on one day and the whole BW section has been deleted or merged with the SC2 forums.

As hard as it is, and as many of them as there are, its best to try to ignore them.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 06:16:11
May 10 2012 06:13 GMT
#469
The reason that the BW pro's like flash and stuff are enjoying sc2 is it's probably the first new game they've played since they got signed.

I love SC2, however I feel that either their opinions are forced to them (happens in korean society) or that they are really enjoying doing something new...I mean its like working in the same job for 4 years then moving to a new place in the same company...the job gets exciting again at least for a little while.

Wait for a few months and then we'll see if they still really enjoy the game

And to all the fellow sc2 fans bragging...please shut the fuck up...without Brood War we would have nothing. We may have been right about the eventual switch, but deep down all BW fans knew it. Stop being ass holes...you guys are making me sick

Long live SC2 and BW
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 10 2012 06:14 GMT
#470
On May 10 2012 14:57 Nightshade_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:55 Noispaxen wrote:
On May 10 2012 14:52 Nightshade_ wrote:
I've seen FBH KR ladder stats, he's barely above 50% in high masters as PROTOSS. So he's no doin too well


How is high masters in KR/TW not good after ~2weeks of playing?

Gosh, this topic is full of pesimistic people... All this stuff sounds purely exciting to me!

considering all you need to have to be high masters is macro and decision making, and BW pros have that, a 53% or so win rate on ladder is average

If you're high masters on Korea you would be at the very top of GM on any other server.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2012 06:14 GMT
#471
Can't wait for this travesty to commence. It will be more of a comedy show than a competitive league though. They should have given the players at least a month more, before they televise their SC2. It'll make it a reality show of "look how we suck at some new game" and "look how we suck at our perfectly mastered game, because we are still busy learning a new game".

I should have foreseen the rule about a picked progamer having to play both BW and SC2 eventually. It makes a lot of sense. It's a really good rule for a mixed league, because it makes it truly mixed for all competitors. Otherwise each team will design a BW roster and a SC2 roster, which would make the whole idea of a mixed league almost meaningless.

For the ace - I hope they only have SC2 during the season and change it to BW for the playoffs and grandfinal. That would be nice. An epic grandfinal with ace in BW is all I ask for.

Lol all the angry Stars comments about not missing post-season because of points. They are lean and mean, I like it! And Rush becoming zerg in SC2 to fully merge with his separated twin Zero.

Sad that T8 zergs are having a hard time. That probably means Jaedong...
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
May 10 2012 06:15 GMT
#472
this is going to be the most awful starcraft ever. man fuck. I don't think I'll even give this a try unless I hear really good things from BW fans. this is going to be like foreigner-level brood war (or even worse just cheeses every game) and sc2 which will always be bad no matter what. I just hope there's some chance that kespa will change back to full bw if the korean fans complain and boycott enough :\
Free Palestine
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 10 2012 06:20 GMT
#473
Ladder Antiga? And Entombed?

I thought KeSPA was gosu with maps and stuff x.x
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 10 2012 06:22 GMT
#474
This is going to be the best tournament I have yet to seen.

I get to see both BW and SC2 and not only that I get to see that with the best BW players in the world.

Finally!!! So pumped for Proleague 2!

Flash fighting!
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
May 10 2012 06:23 GMT
#475
There won't be much time till pro-teams will start buying sc2 pros for their games, and let the bw pros practice better. But there's a risk that bw will disappear and those players will have to retire.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
May 10 2012 06:25 GMT
#476
On May 10 2012 15:22 papaz wrote:
This is going to be the best tournament I have yet to seen.

I get to see both BW and SC2 and not only that I get to see that with the best BW players in the world.

Finally!!! So pumped for Proleague 2!

Flash fighting!


loooool

you're going in for some heavy amount of disappointment
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Sanz
Profile Joined December 2010
150 Posts
May 10 2012 06:26 GMT
#477
i'm really looking forward to this!
And i would love to see some organisation do a stream with a korean translation of some kind for all the global fans
as long there's no global stream set up
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
May 10 2012 06:27 GMT
#478
On May 10 2012 15:23 arbiter_md wrote:
There won't be much time till pro-teams will start buying sc2 pros for their games, and let the bw pros practice better. But there's a risk that bw will disappear and those players will have to retire.


kespa fully plans on going 100% sc2 after this season. so unless this is a huge failure and kespa decides to try to go back to bw (which they might not even be able to do if they made a contract with blizzard?), I don't think they will concentrate much on BW at all :\

we are going to see ODT-quality (IE HORRIBLE) games for the entirety of the next season probably :\
Free Palestine
danson
Profile Joined April 2010
United States689 Posts
May 10 2012 06:28 GMT
#479
i want tasteless and artosis to cast bw and sc2 in the same night. i can dream right
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 06:31:57
May 10 2012 06:30 GMT
#480
On May 10 2012 15:27 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 15:23 arbiter_md wrote:
There won't be much time till pro-teams will start buying sc2 pros for their games, and let the bw pros practice better. But there's a risk that bw will disappear and those players will have to retire.


kespa fully plans on going 100% sc2 after this season. so unless this is a huge failure and kespa decides to try to go back to bw (which they might not even be able to do if they made a contract with blizzard?), I don't think they will concentrate much on BW at all :\


KeSPA's switching for a reason. If the SC2 experiment fails, BW will be replaced by nothing, and the KeSPA teams will collapse altogether. BW tried to survive on its own, and it can't anymore, and it's not like there's a huge desire to see Flash in LoL

On May 10 2012 15:28 danson wrote:
i want tasteless and artosis to cast bw and sc2 in the same night. i can dream right


Never happening. Wolf, Khaldor, Artosis, and Tasteless all work for GOM, not OGN. No one else is moving to Korea. The best English casters OGN's gonna get are Torch and Moletrap, if they get English commentary at all.
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