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Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
May 10 2012 05:41 GMT
#441
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw

User was warned for this post
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 05:41:48
May 10 2012 05:41 GMT
#442
On May 10 2012 14:21 Hall0wed wrote:
Should be interesting to say the least.

FBH is going to dominate I think, I have not heard of any current BW player being better than him in SC2. I've also seen him play several games against current SC2 pros but I really don't remember how the games went. T.T


i saw some people saying he wasn't that great somewhere in the sc2 forums, not sure how credible they are though

EDIT:
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw


I've never seen this.. source?
jaedong imba
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
May 10 2012 05:41 GMT
#443
This makes me super sad, but I also knew it was coming =[

The format feels very weird and artificial, though it is clear what they are trying to accomplish with regards to pushing SC2 over BW even in the dual PL
the last wcs commissioner
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 05:42:22
May 10 2012 05:41 GMT
#444
I still remember when I first heard about this. I never though it'd actually happen. What's even more shocking to me is that they will have the same players doing both games... thought they might have separate lineups or something. That said, I can't help but be curious at how the bw pros will do in sc2 once they get some hardcore practice in and a few months of practice.

But yea, this is silly and shouldn't happen.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
May 10 2012 05:42 GMT
#445
On May 10 2012 14:25 NHY wrote:
Ladder maps = BitByBit all day


Nah, considering that most ladder map now were made to be GSL maps before. Antiga is an ok to good map, depends on the match up. Cloud Kingdom is quite good too, considering that it's used by most of tournament and it won the TL map contest.

What could be better is replacing Ohana with Daybreak.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
May 10 2012 05:42 GMT
#446
On May 10 2012 14:41 CoR wrote:
"If your name is submitted for the 3rd game but the Bo3 is is 2-0, it still counts as you playing."
dont get it ... what ?


Someone posted a good example a few posts up


also good job not keeping any promises about the league. gg Brood War. :/
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
May 10 2012 05:42 GMT
#447
On May 10 2012 14:41 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:21 Hall0wed wrote:
Should be interesting to say the least.

FBH is going to dominate I think, I have not heard of any current BW player being better than him in SC2. I've also seen him play several games against current SC2 pros but I really don't remember how the games went. T.T


i saw some people saying he wasn't that great somewhere in the sc2 forums, not sure how credible they are though

EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw


I've never seen this.. source?

Check any thread before this month that even related to BW pros switching over. Lol I love this shit, I'm eating every bit of it up.

May SC2 live twice as long as BW, and twice as prosperous. May Flash retire at age 50 as a trillionaire.
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 10 2012 05:43 GMT
#448
Wow, the games will be so poor. Playing both SC2 and BW will screw you over so much. I would guess that most of the practice will go to SC2, right? So they are learning the new game, trying to get the feel for the speed of SC2 units and the speed of the gameplay, getting used to the easy pathing and get comfortable with MBS, unlimited unit selection, auto mining, visible rally points, health bars always on (if they want). And then play BW again and it will feel like shit and the play will be sloppy.

And to go from 16 : 9 aspect ratio and playing on 1080p to 4:3 640x480 with different mouse settings won't help either. :/
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
May 10 2012 05:43 GMT
#449
On May 10 2012 14:19 forgehammer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:14 FuRong wrote:
Interesting, Calm and the other Zergs are like "fuck this, I'm switching" and then Rush changes from T to Z? I guess he doesn't watch much GSL. Looks like even Fanta decided against the switch.

There's one thing I don't get though:

BW/SC2 Mix
If your name is submitted for the 3rd game but the Bo3 is is 2-0, it still counts as you playing.

What does this mean? Let's say the lineups are:

Bisu vs Killer
Fanta vs Baby
Best vs Jaedong

If Bisu and Fanta win, does that mean that Best gets a win recorded against Jaedong without even playing? That can't be right. Can someone explain this?

I would guess that it means Best and Jaedong can't play for the SC2 portion of the match, but they don't get a win/loss from it.

Also, are they seriously just using ladder maps? It seems like they could've just asked, I don't know, anybody, who is currently involved in SC2 whether that was a good idea or not and gotten a unanimous "No."


Two of the "Ladder maps" are community maps that happen to be on the ladder. Entombed Valley, despite being a Blizzard map, is actually pretty decent. Only Antiga-with-golds is eyebrow-raising, and MLG uses it. It's not like it's Steppes of War.

I just wanted to see OGN make their own maps
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
May 10 2012 05:44 GMT
#450
This is amazing, what I am curious about is whether or not there will be a easily accessible stream for american viewers, and if there will be english commentators, and vods, all SC2 fans want to see this, how is all of the viewing going to work?
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 10 2012 05:44 GMT
#451
On May 10 2012 14:41 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:21 Hall0wed wrote:
Should be interesting to say the least.

FBH is going to dominate I think, I have not heard of any current BW player being better than him in SC2. I've also seen him play several games against current SC2 pros but I really don't remember how the games went. T.T


i saw some people saying he wasn't that great somewhere in the sc2 forums, not sure how credible they are though


I'm pretty positive I saw him atleast take a game off a current Korean SC2 pro, so thats better than nothing. Obviously he isn't good relative to Code A even but I feel like he will be better than most others in PL this season, atleast for the first 2 rounds.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 10 2012 05:46 GMT
#452
On May 10 2012 14:43 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:19 forgehammer wrote:
On May 10 2012 14:14 FuRong wrote:
Interesting, Calm and the other Zergs are like "fuck this, I'm switching" and then Rush changes from T to Z? I guess he doesn't watch much GSL. Looks like even Fanta decided against the switch.

There's one thing I don't get though:

BW/SC2 Mix
If your name is submitted for the 3rd game but the Bo3 is is 2-0, it still counts as you playing.

What does this mean? Let's say the lineups are:

Bisu vs Killer
Fanta vs Baby
Best vs Jaedong

If Bisu and Fanta win, does that mean that Best gets a win recorded against Jaedong without even playing? That can't be right. Can someone explain this?

I would guess that it means Best and Jaedong can't play for the SC2 portion of the match, but they don't get a win/loss from it.

Also, are they seriously just using ladder maps? It seems like they could've just asked, I don't know, anybody, who is currently involved in SC2 whether that was a good idea or not and gotten a unanimous "No."


Two of the "Ladder maps" are community maps that happen to be on the ladder. Entombed Valley, despite being a Blizzard map, is actually pretty decent. Only Antiga-with-golds is eyebrow-raising, and MLG uses it. It's not like it's Steppes of War.

I just wanted to see OGN make their own maps

Yeah gold minerals, no neutral depo at the bottom of your ramp and imbalance spawning positions (Antiga ladder edition) sucks.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
May 10 2012 05:46 GMT
#453
I'm excited because if the BW elites are happy, then I guess we can't hope for more, but it they get disenchanted, Blizzard will have to drastically improve things.
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
May 10 2012 05:46 GMT
#454
On May 10 2012 14:41 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:21 Hall0wed wrote:
Should be interesting to say the least.

FBH is going to dominate I think, I have not heard of any current BW player being better than him in SC2. I've also seen him play several games against current SC2 pros but I really don't remember how the games went. T.T


i saw some people saying he wasn't that great somewhere in the sc2 forums, not sure how credible they are though

EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 14:41 Nightshade_ wrote:
it feels like yesterday when all the BW diehards were screaming at me saying flash will never play SC2.
mfw


I've never seen this.. source?

It was from someone jealous (an aspiring pro gamer), if the claim is true that he has been playing for only a month, I think hes pretty good.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 10 2012 05:47 GMT
#455
The SC2 ace match really sucks. I was hoping that there would at least be one good BW game per set, but I guess not.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 10 2012 05:47 GMT
#456
Flash motivation is scary already ...

Also somewhere i still hope T8 and IM work together, and get a joined sponsor in LG.
rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
May 10 2012 05:49 GMT
#457
The main problem I see occurring is that the same 6 players will be repeatedly played more than usual.

Say you have FBB playing BW for SKT. Since you want them playing BW again ASAP, the next game, they'll be sent for SC2. The other 3 spots can alternate, but say you have Sun, S2 and Hyuk. If they play SC2 the first match, and the next match sOO, S2, Hyuk play BW, Sun will be on a 2 match break assuming the FBB line isn't broken.

This whole alternating lineup thing can get very confusing and very dirty real fast.
Goal for when I go to korea: Hang out with 김택용
Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
May 10 2012 05:52 GMT
#458
I've seen FBH KR ladder stats, he's barely above 50% in high masters as PROTOSS. So he's no doin too well
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
Noispaxen
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland150 Posts
May 10 2012 05:55 GMT
#459
On May 10 2012 14:52 Nightshade_ wrote:
I've seen FBH KR ladder stats, he's barely above 50% in high masters as PROTOSS. So he's no doin too well


How is high masters in KR/TW not good after ~2weeks of playing?

Gosh, this topic is full of pesimistic people... All this stuff sounds purely exciting to me!
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
May 10 2012 05:57 GMT
#460
Man, the BW skill-level of the games is going to suffer. You can already tell the epicness of the games wasn't like it was in 2011 and back
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
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