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kjwcj
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Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 10:58:27
April 05 2012 17:32 GMT
#1
Late last week KeSPA posted a news bulletin containing the rankings of all draft eligible semi-pros from the last five rounds of the Rookie League program. For those who aren't familiar with it, basically Rookie League is a competition run by KeSPA through which amateur players are able to qualify for a pro license and compete against other semi-pro gamers to gain experience and distinguish themselves for the onlooking pro team coaches and managers.

Rookie League is run in two stages, the first of which is basically the same as the old Courage tournament with open signups and a number of single elimination brackets. The winners of each bracket then qualify as a semi-pro gamer and are eligible to be drafted to a pro team. They are also invited to participate in the second stage of the Rookie League where semi-pro players are separated into round robin groups where they compete for a small cash and hardware prize pool. Then based on their finishing position and overall set win percentage the players are awarded points. For the half yearing rankings, an average is taken of the players' points based on the number of rounds that they participated in.

+ Show Spoiler [Further information from Ryo] +
The current Starcraft Rookie League (there’s one for Special Force too) system is a merger of the previous Courage tournament and the Rookie Evaluation tournament that is held twice a season before each rookie draft.

Under the old system, winners of Courage, the Elite School League and any other existing semi-pros who fit Kespa criteria, were allowed to participate in the Rookie Evaluation tournament held a few weeks before each draft. Under this tournament format, semi-pros were divided into several groups and played two cycles of Bo3 round-robin matches. The scores from both cycles would then be tallied and the semi-pros would be ranked according to their overall win-loss ratio. The last Rookie Evaluation tournament was held in March 2011 and was won by former MBCGame progamer Check. His teammate wOw came in second. Based on the rankings at the Rookie Evaluation, Kespa determined the cut-off point for the number of players eligible for the April draft. The top 3 players also received cash prizes.
http://www.e-sports.or.kr/news/notice_view.kea?m_code=news_20&seq=1482&where=||&query=&where_term=&PageNo=1

In June 2011, Kespa changed the rookie tournaments system. Courage and the Evaluation tournament were instead combined and renamed “Rookie League”. Under this new system, the evaluation tournament is now held about 10 times (with the exception of the months of the drafts), instead of twice a season.

The first stage of the Rookie League system is identical to the old Courage system, which was a bracket elimination tournament. The second stage is open to semi-pros only. This stage used to consist of 진출전 and 본선. But they've since scraped the 진출전. The 본선 consists of a 1st division and a 2nd division. New semi-pros who register to participate are placed into the lowest division (either 2nd division or 진출전). If there are not enough players to make up a 2nd division, then all players will compete in the 1st division, which is why some months' Rookie League 본선 has only 1 division.

Within each division, players are further divided into groups and play Bo3 round robin matches. The 1st division has a maxium of 2 groups while the 2nd division has a maximum of 4 groups. Players are awarded points based on each match win. After each month's tournament, the scores are tallied up and the bottom ranked players in each group in the 1st division will be demoted to the 2nd division while the top 2 players in each group in the 2nd division will be promoted to the 1st division. If there are not enough players to make up two divisions for the following month's tournament, no players will be demoted.

Semi-pros have to register every month to participate in the 본선 tournaments, even those who participated in the previous month’s tournament. If you register for this month's tournament and don’t turn up to compete, you will not be eligible to play in next month’s tournament.

Results from the RL tournaments are be used to determine the ranking of the semi-pros eligible for the rookie draft conducted twice a season. But eligible players still have to register for the draft to indicate their intention to attend it.


The draft will be held on the 12th of April, below are the rankings of the 34 eligible players.

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Taken from the KeSPA notice here.

I've tried to collect some information and VODs/replays of the top ten players from this season, most of the VODs are from clanwars with their West or Fish clans but there also a few ladder reps mixed in. I've also included the VODs of the players who played in the My Starleague final round at Yongsan but they're only hosted on Daum or OGN. OGN typically loads faster but you need to open it in Internet Explorer and let the plugin install, Daum can take as much as an hour to load one 20 minute game depending on where you live so using OGN is advisable.

Keep in mind while watching the VODs and replays that these aren't progamers and as such their play isn't always impeccable. Also, some players were very hard to find VODs for so you may find games included for them that are not particularly close or exciting.

By.Yourosia - Terran, SKT trainee since late 2011.

Yourosia qualified as a semi-pro in the third Rookie League in August 2011, he was also taken on as an SKT trainee sometime late in 2011 although I'm not sure exactly when. He has been utterly dominant in recent rounds of Rookie League, topping his finals group with a >70% set winrate in round five, six and eight. Although from what I can tell he has been a member of By for some time, I can't find a single VOD or mention of him participating in a clan war. As such, VODs and replays of Yourosia are not particularly easy to find, the best I could get was a series he played on Fish versus sAviOr sometime in 2011.

TvZ versus sAviOr rep pack

(P)neo.g_pigbaby - Protoss, Team 8 trainee since late 2011.

Pigbaby has actually been around for a long time, when I was searching for reps on ygosu I found three games of his from 2008, including a rep of him PvTing versus then OZ progamer LosirA (then known as thunder[fOu]). He has been slightly up and down over the course of the last six months, he started off finishing equal first in round four but then dropped off and only managed a 50% set winrate in rounds seven and eight. The most recent round saw a resurgence and he ended up second in his group only to overall standings leader, Yourosia.

VODs were pretty easy to come by for pigbaby as he has been a mainstay of neo.g clanwar lineups for some time now. He was also given a spot in last year's MST prelims as a result of his Rookie League results.

PvZ versus ex-KHAN progamer g1[kaL]
PvP versus KT.MGW)Pro888
PvZ versus Force[Name]


By.ReQuiem aka Crazy[KaL] - Protoss, SKT trainee since early 2012.

ReQuiem joined SKT as a trainee in February, having won his license in Rookie League 4 in October 2011. He has topped his finals group twice, in rounds four and six but more recently has been finishing midtable. Until some time last year he was a member of Kal and all of the VODs I could find of him were from clanwars he played for them.

PvP versus minsu[jOin]
PvT versus Silver[jOin]
PvZ versus mawan_sam

Beach_Lt aka Art[KaL] - Protoss, former(?) STX trainee.

Another former Kal member, Beach has always been just behind pigbaby and ReQuiem, finishing runner up in his finals group three times since qualifying as a semi-pro in Rookie League 4. I'm not actually sure if he's still an STX trainee, the LoteM news board isn't open to guest users so I've had to rely on other sites to try and get information. Also included is a replay of a game he played versus HiyA from a replay pack posted on TL by zimp (<3 zimp).

PvP versus EveR)P(Pianist
PvZ versus 9bal[Shield]
PvT versus Mong[Name]
PvT replay versus HiyA

(T)By.BigTiger - Terran, unattached, My Starleague participant.

BigTiger is one of the more well known players from this group, having participated in last year's My Starleague tournament where he lost in the final round to Actually. Like Beach and ReQuiem, he was until recently a member of Kal and was a fixture of their clanwar lineups until his switch to By early this year. He has also participated in several amateur tournaments, most recently the SonicTV Starleague 6 where he finished third in his Ro32 group where he beat Minus)eagle 2-0 before being eliminated by eventual champion Sky[kaL].

Although he has been known as a top amateur player for at least a year, BigTiger only qualified as a semi-pro recently, in Rookie League 6. It didn't take BigTiger long to make a mark on the finals round of Rookie League, finishing first in his group in the round seven, ahead of the likes of Yourosia, maru and pigbaby.

TvP versus EveR)P(Pianist
TvP versus mini
TvT versus former STX progamer nOregret
My Starleague TvP versus Actually Game 1 Daum OGN, Game 2 Daum, Game 3 Daum, Game 2 & 3 OGN

By.PenguiN aka KT.MGW)ZergTOP or BBoBBo[ScM] - Zerg, KHAN Trainee since early 2012.

PenguiN is another of the top ranked players who is a recent addition for By, having formerly been a member of KT.MGW. He was also formerly a trainee with STX before switching to KHAN in March. PenguiN won his license in Rookie League 6 in March and since then his best result has been third in his group with a handful of midtable finishes in other rounds. He's in the top 10 mainly by way of his consistancy and attendance but his acceptance as a KHAN trainee and recruitment to By suggests he's highly regarded. PenguiN is also one of the youngest player of this current group, having just recently turned 16.

ZvZ versus 6ixsense[jOin]
ZvT versus former KHAN progamer minam

(T)Jy_Lt - Terran, unattached, My Starleague participant.

Jy is the second Terran in the top ten to have won a place in the Jin Air OSL prelims by competing in My Starleague where his final round opponent, Minus)terrOr, appeared to be about 11 years old. Jy has been the main Terran for LoteM in clanwars for some time which made it very easy to find VODs of his games. He's also had some decent results in amateur tournaments, including a run to the Hodduk Starleague Ro8 that featured wins versus Anytime and beast[kaL].

Jy qualified for semi-pro status in January, going on to top his divison two group in round seven and his division one group in round eight. His results so far suggest that he would likely be higher in the overall rankings if he had been able to participate in more rounds of Rookie League.

Five kill versus Minus in BBulsori Super Clan League Season 1 TvZ versus Minus)Gw TvT versus Minus)ggoma TvP versus Minus)eagle TvP versus SKT progamer Minus)Julie TvP versus Minus)Vip
Hodduk Starleague Ro32 series TvP versus Anytime Game 1, Game 2, Game 3
My Starleague TvZ versus Minus)terrOr Game 1 Daum OGN, Game 2 Daum OGN
There are also a few replays of Jy playing Terror in the 1a2a3a replay pack posted by zimp.

By.Maru - Protoss, unattached, My Starleague participant.

Maru is the last My Starleague participant in the top ten, making it to the final round where he lost to now SKT progamer hudadak. He has been a member of By for some time but due to the infrequency with which By play clan leagues I couldn't find a single VOD of him anywhere. Luckily Maru was relatively known on ICCup back in the day and so there's a decent collection of replays from that period plus a few more recent ones including games versus Terror, Dove and Backho. Credit again to Zimp for the replay versus Backho, it's another from one of the replay packs he shared.

My Starleague PvT versus hudadak Game 1 Daum, Game 2 Daum, Game 3 Daum. Game 1, 2 & 3 OGN
By.Maru replays


Terran_Lt aka precious_Lt - Terran (obviously), KT Rolster(?) trainee.

Terran_Lt is the newest player out of all the top ten to make it to the finals stage of Rookie League, having made it for the first time in round eight. He was very briefly a WeMade trainee before their disbandment last year and is now a KT trainee. A LoteM news post in March stated that he'd entered the KT team house along with his teammate doraemon_Lt. Terran hasn't exactly been a mainstay of LoteM clanwar lineups but he has made some decent showings for them in the last six months, most notably with a 3 kill vs Shield in August of last year.

Three kill versus Shield TvP versus RD[Shield] TvZ versus humble[Shield] TvP versus SanTa[Shield]
TvT versus EveR)T(SONE
TvP versus Slayer[S.G]

MyuNgSiK[WHITE] - Protoss, Woongjin trainee.

MyuNgSiK first appeared in the finals stage of Rookie League in round five where he topped his group ahead of ReQuiem and Beach, since then his results have been a little less exciting although he did finish second in his group to Jy in round eight. MyuNgSiK participated in the Hodduk and SonicTV 6 Starleagues but failed to make it past the Ro32 in either. MyuNgSiK is a regular for WHITE in clanwars although he has a great deal of competition from fellow semi-pro Protoss teammates 4buntaja and Stussy.

Hodduk Starleague Ro32 PvP versus his clanmate BackHo Game 1, Game 2, Game 3
PvP versus WIYEON[saM]
PvZ versus Jinsik[saM]

Other known pro team trainees:

SKT - 4buntaja[WHITE]
Team 8 - By.wiN
Woongjin - By.Bunny, Shout[ScM]
KHAN - BBatta_Lt
STX - By.comet
CJ - technicaL_Lt

If you have any replays, VODs or general information about one of the players who are on this list or otherwise eligible for the upcoming draft please post it and I'll add it to the OP. Also, if there's any incorrectly labeled replays or VODs or just any wrong information in general please let me know.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 17:35:25
April 05 2012 17:35 GMT
#2
ohhhhh more Rookies for broodwar !!!!!!!!!! thanks for this !.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
April 05 2012 17:36 GMT
#3
Wow that is really thorough. How the hell do you know all that, are you somekind of foreign BW mastermind(serious)?
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
April 05 2012 17:44 GMT
#4
'By' seems to be a dominant clan in Korea. Both Flash and Fantasy started from here right?
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 05 2012 17:49 GMT
#5
The "By" clan is probably the most dominate and known nowadays, compared to the old golden days of [gm]
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
GiYoM
Profile Joined May 2006
Korea (South)94 Posts
April 05 2012 17:51 GMT
#6
only 2 out of 34 were born in the 80s. Has there be any article written on why that is that all the top broodwar players seem to be around 20 years old?
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
April 05 2012 17:53 GMT
#7
neo.g is the clan name? So his basic id is just Soulkey.

Kinda obvious when I think about it now though cool nonetheless
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 05 2012 17:58 GMT
#8
I doubt any players in their late to mid 20s will bother trying to get a professor license at that age, majority younger players still have free time to dedicate and the reflexes to contend with the masses. And this is for Brood War so that just makes the circumstances even harder to overcome.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
kjwcj
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 18:04:12
April 05 2012 17:58 GMT
#9
On April 06 2012 02:44 alypse wrote:
'By' seems to be a dominant clan in Korea. Both Flash and Fantasy started from here right?


The interesting thing is that a lot of the players listed as By there were actually in other clans up until quite recently (ie. when they started performing well in Rookie League). Whether it's a case of the players wanting to join By because of the good practice or if they're simply recruited to increase the status of the clan I'm not sure but there's a clear trend of these amateur and semi-pro guys switching to By after becoming more well known.

On April 06 2012 02:51 GiYoM wrote:
only 2 out of 34 were born in the 80s. Has there be any article written on why that is that all the top broodwar players seem to be around 20 years old?


I think the main issue is that once a player joins a pro team it can take some time for him to develop the level of skill and experience that's required to play broadcast games. So if you don't join a pro team until you're 20, you might not be 22 until you're finally of a level where you're able to complete with A team progamers and by that stage you have to start thinking about military service and so on.

The likes of pigbaby and Yourosia are probably at the upper limit in terms of age, the 16 and 17 year olds have a much better chance of being picked up if they show the necessary potential.
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
April 05 2012 18:17 GMT
#10
What is the By. , [WHITE], _Lt stand for ? The clan or something?
Tekken ProGamer
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 05 2012 18:19 GMT
#11
On April 06 2012 03:17 therockmanxx wrote:
What is the By. , [WHITE], _Lt stand for ? The clan or something?


The guild, clan or team they were in during their amateur days. You can see some progamers keep their tags while some choose not to.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
April 05 2012 18:26 GMT
#12
No more new Flashies?
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
seriosity
Profile Joined July 2009
United States214 Posts
April 05 2012 18:57 GMT
#13
Sick games.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
April 05 2012 20:06 GMT
#14
On April 06 2012 02:51 GiYoM wrote:
only 2 out of 34 were born in the 80s. Has there be any article written on why that is that all the top broodwar players seem to be around 20 years old?


I would have thought that you would have more insight into that than most.

It is something that has been noticed, especially when it comes to the top tier of players; no one older than 22 has ever won an OSL or MSL. I still haven't seen a great explanation for why that is though.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
storkfan
Profile Joined March 2012
493 Posts
April 05 2012 20:30 GMT
#15
On April 06 2012 05:06 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 02:51 GiYoM wrote:
only 2 out of 34 were born in the 80s. Has there be any article written on why that is that all the top broodwar players seem to be around 20 years old?


I would have thought that you would have more insight into that than most.

It is something that has been noticed, especially when it comes to the top tier of players; no one older than 22 has ever won an OSL or MSL. I still haven't seen a great explanation for why that is though.

Our brain cells. We start losing them since our early 20s so in a heated real time game, its never the same after it happens Especially for zert players
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
April 05 2012 20:43 GMT
#16
I hope Cookie gets drafted, he is so good.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
April 05 2012 21:34 GMT
#17
SKT still stocking up on T and Ps, hopefully Penguin gets good enough to actually get to A-Team on Khan, they really need a younger Zerg to back up RorO and Shine.
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Deletrious
Profile Joined December 2007
United States458 Posts
April 05 2012 21:54 GMT
#18
On name alone I am already a fan of Penguin and pigbaby.
Bow before the Dongjwa.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 22:04:39
April 05 2012 22:04 GMT
#19
this is awesome !!!!

fresh blood !
T H C makes ppl happy
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 22:06:33
April 05 2012 22:05 GMT
#20
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
April 05 2012 22:17 GMT
#21
showmethemoney = best new ID. recruit this man KT
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 05 2012 22:26 GMT
#22
MOAR ROOKIES! Awesome for da scene!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
WeRRa
Profile Joined December 2010
378 Posts
April 05 2012 23:30 GMT
#23
There are a lot rookies, who are as good as this guys, i mean minus)eagle, sea.kh (not sure if he still plays), minus)mahell ,eros_loveshy. I think most of them were already in proteams, don't understand why they aren't anymore, if you see how good they are, but imo they should play in this amateurleague too. I guess there is a lot potential in this league maybe another chance for bw to shine like phoenix? :D
InnoVation Fighting!!!
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 06 2012 00:18 GMT
#24
Wow, awesome thread. Thanks for putting this together!
Three Protoss in top six
KTY
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
April 06 2012 01:36 GMT
#25
Damn, the By. clan churns out great Terrans from time to time.
(´・ω・`)
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
April 06 2012 02:08 GMT
#26
Super good post, thanks !

BW can't stop now, we have fresh blood !
I can't imagine KeSPA issuing those guys a progaming license after years of efforts as semi-pros only to force them to switch to SC2.
ॐ
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
April 06 2012 03:15 GMT
#27
On April 06 2012 02:51 GiYoM wrote:
only 2 out of 34 were born in the 80s. Has there be any article written on why that is that all the top broodwar players seem to be around 20 years old?


o.O A Legend appears for post #86.

Great to see the new rookies. Too bad we can't get anymore BW progamer gossip from Rekrul, Milkis or Idra for the inside soop.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
April 06 2012 03:16 GMT
#28
The faith of BW is in the hands of this generation.

On April 06 2012 02:32 kjwcj wrote:
Terran_Lt aka precious_Lt - Terran (obviously), KT Rolster(?) trainee.

Terran_Lt is the newest player out of all the top ten to make it to the finals stage of Rookie League, having made it for the first time in round eight. He was very briefly a WeMade trainee before their disbandment last year and is now a KT trainee. A LoteM news post in March stated that he'd entered the KT team house along with his teammate doraemon_Lt. Terran hasn't exactly been a mainstay of LoteM clanwar lineups but he has made some decent showings for them in the last six months, most notably with a 3 kill vs Shield in August of last year.

Three kill versus Shield TvP versus RD[Shield] TvZ versus humble[Shield] TvP versus SanTa[Shield]
TvT versus EveR)T(SONE
TvP versus Slayer[S.G]

Looks like an ultimate weapon in the making.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66356 Posts
April 06 2012 09:10 GMT
#29
the good news out of this is that at least there are fresh blood still incoming, which means BW will stay for a while longer
POGGERS
SoulTakerz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada353 Posts
April 06 2012 09:16 GMT
#30
You never know, somewhere in there is the next Flash.
Lee Jae fucking Dong Bitches
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
April 06 2012 09:18 GMT
#31
On April 06 2012 10:36 sinistral wrote:
Damn, the By. clan churns out great Terrans from time to time.

By.Flash, By.Fantasy, By.Baby
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
April 06 2012 09:21 GMT
#32
On April 06 2012 02:53 Dakkas wrote:
neo.g is the clan name? So his basic id is just Soulkey.

Kinda obvious when I think about it now though cool nonetheless

Yes. But the reason why we say neo.g_soulkey is to not confuse him with the former progamer Soulkey, inventor of SK (soulkey) terran.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 06 2012 09:24 GMT
#33
On April 06 2012 18:10 konadora wrote:
the good news out of this is that at least there are fresh blood still incoming, which means BW will stay for a while longer

Not all will attend the draft though. Eligible players still have to register/apply to Kespa to indicate their intention to be drafted.

According to Fomos ACE and Team 8 will not be drafting players.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=123937&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
April 06 2012 09:30 GMT
#34
yay! more bw rookies. happy me.

the guy at the top seems really good. he's way ahead of the second place guy.

btw, i just love korean progamers and their id's. lol pigbaby and showmethemoney.
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EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
April 06 2012 09:35 GMT
#35
This OP makes me so happy.

BW4EVER!
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 06 2012 10:06 GMT
#36
On April 06 2012 05:43 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I hope Cookie gets drafted, he is so good.


he's, what, 23 already? who'd draft him knowing that he'll probably need to go military soon anyway?

obv don't know if he went already
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
April 06 2012 10:33 GMT
#37
No [Shield] members. :/ Kinda depressing.
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Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
April 06 2012 10:49 GMT
#38
We need more Zerg
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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 06 2012 11:28 GMT
#39
Geif us Dream League plox.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 06 2012 14:52 GMT
#40
On April 06 2012 18:18 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 10:36 sinistral wrote:
Damn, the By. clan churns out great Terrans from time to time.

By.Flash, By.Fantasy, By.Baby


Isn't Fantasy Siz)Fantasy?
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GoooN
Profile Joined August 2010
217 Posts
April 06 2012 15:10 GMT
#41
By.Testie lololol. Can't remember if it was a fake tho.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 06 2012 15:23 GMT
#42
Pigbaby? Awesome name. XD
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
April 06 2012 15:31 GMT
#43
On April 06 2012 18:24 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 18:10 konadora wrote:
the good news out of this is that at least there are fresh blood still incoming, which means BW will stay for a while longer

Not all will attend the draft though. Eligible players still have to register/apply to Kespa to indicate their intention to be drafted.

According to Fomos ACE and Team 8 will not be drafting players.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=123937&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


what? but team 8 needs more players....damn it find a sponsor soon.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 18:29:32
April 06 2012 18:28 GMT
#44
On April 07 2012 00:10 GoooN wrote:
By.Testie lololol. Can't remember if it was a fake tho.

I guess it was true. I think they are less picky for foreigners. If i remember correctly Fenix and Sarens were in By at one point. Foreigners always tried to get in a top Kor clan to get games vs gosus on West.

Also [fOu] completly switched to Sc2 ? They used to have many promising rookies.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
April 06 2012 19:49 GMT
#45
Only thirty-four eligible draftees? I thought there were more than triple that number of semi-pros...what happened? o.O
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 06 2012 19:59 GMT
#46
Does "maru" mean something in Korean? there is a very young player in SC2 named maru as well. the Maru in SC2 is quite talented as well.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
April 06 2012 20:25 GMT
#47
On April 07 2012 03:28 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 00:10 GoooN wrote:
By.Testie lololol. Can't remember if it was a fake tho.

I guess it was true. I think they are less picky for foreigners. If i remember correctly Fenix and Sarens were in By at one point. Foreigners always tried to get in a top Kor clan to get games vs gosus on West.

Also [fOu] completly switched to Sc2 ? They used to have many promising rookies.


ByClan is quite large, not everyone in the team is a pro gamer. Although they do make sure you are very skilled before joining. Nyoken was in By. Testie iirc was in Nal, as was Draco and SunCow.

fOu kinda merged with NeoG iirc (similar to SiZ joined with By. Flash was originally in SiZ) and used that tag when he played courage, coincidentally the same group as Draco.)
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GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
April 07 2012 04:44 GMT
#48
On April 06 2012 23:52 ne4aJIb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 18:18 Elroi wrote:
On April 06 2012 10:36 sinistral wrote:
Damn, the By. clan churns out great Terrans from time to time.

By.Flash, By.Fantasy, By.Baby


Isn't Fantasy Siz)Fantasy?


Fantasy has mentioned many time sin his interviews that he and Flash are close because of their history/ties with By. Clan. Fantasy was By.Fantasy and Flash was By.Hobbang when they were semi-pros-amateurs,
I have some reps of Fantasy as Siz)Fantasy, but many, mnay others as By.Fantasy
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 09:01:52
April 07 2012 09:00 GMT
#49
On April 07 2012 04:49 PH wrote:
Only thirty-four eligible draftees? I thought there were more than triple that number of semi-pros...what happened? o.O

You're only eligible for the upcoming draft if you've played in at least one tournament between Rookie Leagues #4 to #9. There are many semi-pros out there who choose not to play in RL because they have no intention of joining a team.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
April 07 2012 09:01 GMT
#50
On April 07 2012 04:49 PH wrote:
Only thirty-four eligible draftees? I thought there were more than triple that number of semi-pros...what happened? o.O

I think this is only rookies ?

Like super young or something..

there are quite alot more semipros than that, Im pretty damn sure
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 09 2012 09:56 GMT
#51
DES reports that the draft on 12th April will be held at 1pm KST at iParkmall. 22 semi-pros have registered to participate in the draft.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=59073
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shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 09 2012 10:07 GMT
#52
On April 09 2012 18:56 Ryo wrote:
DES reports that the draft on 12th April will be held at 1pm KST at iParkmall. 22 semi-pros have registered to participate in the draft.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=59073



Oh goody drafties ... Too bad, SC2 is coming it's way.

Personally, I think Kespa doesn't a single clue what the fuck it's doing as long as it earns them money. Greedy fucking bastards, but you can't really blame them.

*sigh
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 09 2012 10:10 GMT
#53
On April 09 2012 19:07 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 18:56 Ryo wrote:
DES reports that the draft on 12th April will be held at 1pm KST at iParkmall. 22 semi-pros have registered to participate in the draft.

http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=59073



Oh goody drafties ... Too bad, SC2 is coming it's way.

Personally, I think Kespa doesn't a single clue what the fuck it's doing as long as it earns them money. Greedy fucking bastards, but you can't really blame them.

*sigh

Hmm yeah, the organization is somewhat incompetent.
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