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LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 29 2012 17:37 GMT
#121
just imagine sziky getting lessons from him. the best foreigner zerg with lessons from someone who revolutionized zerg? crazy!
Arir
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland60 Posts
March 29 2012 17:39 GMT
#122
I cant believe he is not gotting "many sign ups"..?

That is a ridicilously low price from celebrity and i would imagine his schedhule being all day long teaching for couple months but no. It has to be a cultural thing.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 29 2012 17:40 GMT
#123
On March 30 2012 02:37 Metal[x] wrote:
just imagine sziky getting lessons from him. the best foreigner zerg with lessons from someone who revolutionized zerg? crazy!


Nah I prefer him getting coach by Jaedong who is the current remaining tyrant in the bw league with "conscience" and I mean in terms of not getting involve with the match fixing that is hence Jaedong or Brain Zerg(Calm) will definitely help out sziky in terms of skill and strategy .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 29 2012 17:41 GMT
#124
On March 30 2012 02:39 Arir wrote:
I cant believe he is not gotting "many sign ups"..?

That is a ridicilously low price from celebrity and i would imagine his schedhule being all day long teaching for couple months but no. It has to be a cultural thing.

the negative things he's known for kinda overshadows the good thingshe's know for by now
In the woods, there lurks..
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
March 29 2012 17:41 GMT
#125
yeah, but would JD ever coach for 25$/hr. No, I don't think so. :o
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
March 29 2012 17:44 GMT
#126
On March 30 2012 02:32 Marti wrote:
Well it's a sick good deal but ... I don't know how i feel about this.
It's just so unfair i mean, if the match fixing scandal had only affected him and the others players responsible for this i would be fine with it but, like, he really ruined it for every BW progamers. I mean, he already has quite a lot of money at this point, but what about all the less sucessful players who won't be able to because of MBCGame shutting down, the lack of sponsors for osl etc etc ... ?
The idea that he can still squeeze so much out of something he destroyed while others who didn't do anything have less opportunities is just ... disgusting i guess.

Not that i wish him to fail in life tho, but, can't he just stay away from the game ?


As much of a Savior fan as I am... I agree; he's just done too much damage to the scene to deserve to be making money off of it. If anything he should be giving free lessons to help repair some of the damage he's done. Surprised he's only charging that much though, that's quite cheap compared to lessons in CS, SC2, etc.

However, I can kind of understand it from Savior's POV; it's probably difficult for him to get another job, as is common with retired pro-gamers (and Savior's history) and thus it's a way to get by.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 29 2012 17:46 GMT
#127
LOL I wonder if he can teach people how to pull some match-fixing...
Seriously, if I met this guy on the streets I'd chuck an egg on him.
And most Koreans would probably feel the same way.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
March 29 2012 17:55 GMT
#128
This guy almost ruined esport literally along with other guys that at least had enough shame to not show their faces anymore in the BW community, supporting him through BW again is just wrong.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
March 29 2012 17:58 GMT
#129
I know there is a lot of hatred for Savior, (SuperNova etc) which is justified but so far there doesn't seem to be any malicious intent.

People were flaming him, so he put "Subscribers Only" Mode on his fanpage. Honestly... feels like the Cash Rate is some sort of favor to the community less than him trying to make money. If he truly wanted to make money he could switch to SC2 and coach for $50 p/h in like a months worth.

Still though, nobody is forced to give him money. I agree it still feels rotten he's trying to make ANY cash off of the community and scene he helped cripple.
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
March 29 2012 18:02 GMT
#130
On March 30 2012 02:58 Slardar wrote:
I know there is a lot of hatred for Savior, (SuperNova etc) which is justified but so far there doesn't seem to be any malicious intent.

People were flaming him, so he put "Subscribers Only" Mode on his fanpage. Honestly... feels like the Cash Rate is some sort of favor to the community less than him trying to make money. If he truly wanted to make money he could switch to SC2 and coach for $50 p/h in like a months worth.

Still though, nobody is forced to give him money. I agree it still feels rotten he's trying to make ANY cash off of the community and scene he helped cripple.


I doubt he has/will ever have the credible skill levels to teach SC2 anyways.

What appalls me the most is that there are maggots who would actually partake in this bullshit.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 29 2012 18:02 GMT
#131
still cheaper than gosucoaching

im all in support
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
March 29 2012 18:03 GMT
#132
On March 30 2012 02:58 Slardar wrote:
Honestly... feels like the Cash Rate is some sort of favor to the community less than him trying to make money.



On March 29 2012 23:06 GTR wrote:
30k won is quite a lot (compared to the other afreeca bjs)
players like eagle/anytime do it for 10-15k won p/hr iirc.


Hmm
BW forever || Thall
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 29 2012 18:05 GMT
#133
Personally I don't like the idea of him making anymore money off the game...
Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
March 29 2012 18:09 GMT
#134
i think this shows how absolutely ridiculous the prices that people like idra/incontrol charge are, and how stupid people are to pay them that amount.
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
March 29 2012 18:10 GMT
#135
On March 30 2012 00:56 Arceus wrote:
I find it funny that ppl say $25 for 1.5 hours is dirt cheap but are reluctant to pay the same bucks for one season of GSL/MLG/etc


Because to them 1.5 hours with a Bonjwa means more than a season of GSL/MLG/etc, obviously? o.O

10 minutes w Bisu or Tossgirl easily stomp a lifetime of GLS/MLG/etc stuff for me.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
March 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#136
On March 30 2012 00:50 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 00:35 brachester wrote:
Hmm, k, I get that what Savior did was wrong and all but what's the point of keep being angry about it? I mean you should know when to forgive people right? Like people have already mentioned, 2 years probation doesn't look good on your resume so maybe this is his last choice. Also people should stop looking things with black and white, "twisted evil thoughts"? lol. Though I can't agree with the paying fees to be in his fanclub, that's pretty low.




I have no idea why people think it's so easy to forgive him, when the match fixing scandal ruined years of effort trying to build a scene from the ground up.


damn that video brought me to tears
jaedong imba
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
March 29 2012 18:16 GMT
#137
let him live...he's suffered enough and has undergone his punishment. why hold a grudge for so long? its pretty awesome that he's still around after all this time
aka SethN
Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
March 29 2012 18:19 GMT
#138
On March 29 2012 23:06 GTR wrote:
30k won is quite a lot (compared to the other afreeca bjs)
players like eagle/anytime do it for 10-15k won p/hr iirc.


This : i just realized 25 bucks doesn't seem like much to a foreigner but i don't know how much that is for a korean. I said it was a good deal but apparently, not that good.
And also this :

On March 29 2012 23:25 white_horse wrote:
Pay to join his fanclub, pay to follow him, pay to get lessons from him: basically only the nutty and hardcore fans who don't really care about anything else remain. you can't really get any more pathetic than that


All of a sudden my image of him worsened by quite a lot.
Seriously how can anyone forgive him when he's clearly just milking it dry ??
He really is a disgusting character...
#adun giveafuck - - - "Did this guy just randomly finger me?" - Sayle
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
March 29 2012 18:20 GMT
#139
What a bad time to be doing this. BW is in need of sponsors, but Savior and his scandal is being shoved into the spotlight again.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 29 2012 18:23 GMT
#140
On March 30 2012 01:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Whatever, it's like Pete Rose giving baseball lessons. I think he's despicable and should leave the entirety of Broodwar alone like the disgrace he is, but I can't knowingly support forcing him to stop anything but direct involvement with the BW pro scene.

pete rose did not ever bet against his team
pete rose bet his team would win

there is a BIG difference
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