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KillAudio
1364 Posts
On March 02 2012 22:17 Stratos wrote: This should be enough. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/sc_start.html I don't think you need the autoreg file anymore if you use the launcher, which you should do. Thank you for the fast response! Really appreciate it.  | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
I'm mainly playing against the computer (winning, but they just do some weird delayed 1 base all-ins usually against me. I actually played a long TvP against one of the custom ai's or whatever once though....) So I've been mainly practicing TvZ because it's "closest" to TvZ in SC2 [only problem in TvZ against the computer is that they make hydra lurk... ._.] I want to make sure my game plan is ok at least TvZ: 1rax -> academy+gas -> +2 rax -> (do I put ebay around here?) -> factory -> 2nd gas+machine shop (?) [tanks]-> starport -> sci facility&addon -> (dropship -> sci vessel?) @3 tanks, vessel: push while making 3rd [funny enough, the computer pushes around this time too >_>] add more factories+barracks while taking more bases [I guess I shouldn't worry about late mechanic -- is that even used still? Not sure] TvP: rax+gas (11,12) -> factory -> vulture -> [do I put ebay/academy around here?] -> machine shop (research mines -> seige -> speed?) -> expand when able (around getting mines), +2 more factories (techlab, techlab, noaddon) -> armory -> I guess a 3rd around here? -> starport?+more factories? TvT: rax+gas (11,12) -> factory -> vulture -> [do I put ebay/academy around here?] -> machine shop (research mines -> seige -> speed?) -> expand when able (around getting mines), --- not sure what to do here. I guess I should just go into 3fact + armory so I can handle wraiths? idk Thanks. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On March 03 2012 09:46 zhurai wrote: So I'm thinking of actually starting [I was going to after I get dia, but I somehow lost my whole game plan in SC2 so I might as well write up my BW game plan too, to practice or so lol idk] I'm mainly playing against the computer (winning, but they just do some weird delayed 1 base all-ins usually against me. I actually played a long TvP against one of the custom ai's or whatever once though....) So I've been mainly practicing TvZ because it's "closest" to TvZ in SC2 [only problem in TvZ against the computer is that they make hydra lurk... ._.] I want to make sure my game plan is ok at least TvZ: 1rax -> academy+gas -> +2 rax -> (do I put ebay around here?) -> factory -> 2nd gas+machine shop (?) [tanks]-> starport -> sci facility&addon -> (dropship -> sci vessel?) @3 tanks, vessel: push while making 3rd [funny enough, the computer pushes around this time too >_>] add more factories+barracks while taking more bases [I guess I shouldn't worry about late mechanic -- is that even used still? Not sure] TvP: rax+gas (11,12) -> factory -> vulture -> [do I put ebay/academy around here?] -> machine shop (research mines -> seige -> speed?) -> expand when able (around getting mines), +2 more factories (techlab, techlab, noaddon) -> armory -> I guess a 3rd around here? -> starport?+more factories? TvT: rax+gas (11,12) -> factory -> vulture -> [do I put ebay/academy around here?] -> machine shop (research mines -> seige -> speed?) -> expand when able (around getting mines), --- not sure what to do here. I guess I should just go into 3fact + armory so I can handle wraiths? idk Thanks. You should look at BW liquipedia for the following builds, they will state the specific timings for all your questions. TvZ - 1 Rax FE into +1 5 Rax (get [range + 2 turrets + 3 bunkers] or [factory after 2nd rax (2 rax tech)] if you think 2 hatch lurker) -> Late mechanic (3rd CC in base, build 5 facts lift 5 raxes, float CC) or SKTerran (8 Rax 2 Starport, 2 base heavy, very late 3rd). Siege Expand or Fake Double -> 6 fac timing or 4 fact expand to 3rd (the buffer is necessary due to being impossible to get a 3rd without dying [let alone punish] as a beginner, once you get better you can get 3rd off less facts) TvT - 1 Fact FE (vs Terran) | ||
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Tollhouse1
United States80 Posts
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EternaLLegacy
United States410 Posts
On February 24 2012 08:23 Chef wrote: Pfft, by who? Zerg is definitely the hardest in terms of counter-intuitiveness. Terran and Toss have the most early game options and ways to practice their start up. Zerg basically have to play for mid-game and can die before they even get a chance to do anything, and when they do get to that midgame they have less chances to practice it since they don't get to it every game. In the early days when Terran and Toss didn't FE I might have agreed because Zerg had some strength throughout the game, but these days it is a huge task for a Zerg to figure out how to manage his economy and compete with an FE without dying. Of course all races have their difficulties, but the best thing about Terran is that they have the most learning resources and guides and FPVODs to help you. Zerg basically have 5 year old commentaries by Chill hahahaha. Eh, terran is the hardest race mechanically by far. You simply have to have solid mechanics in every aspect to play them correctly. Protoss is forgiving on micro, zerg is forgiving on macro. But yes, zerg is rather counterintuitive to learn. Since he's an sc2 player I assume he's familiar with at least some of the mechanics of zerg though, so I'd assume it wouldn't be totally foreign. For a new player - zerg is weird as hell. | ||
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Fiel
United States587 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On March 03 2012 13:29 Fiel wrote: I picked up Brood War a week or two ago and played ZvX against the AI a few times. I suddenly wanted to punch the person who decided that "s" would be a good hotkey for scourge. X_X hahahahahaha I think I've done that quite a bit of times when I played as Z against the AI too before... :S | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On March 03 2012 13:29 Fiel wrote: I picked up Brood War a week or two ago and played ZvX against the AI a few times. I suddenly wanted to punch the person who decided that "s" would be a good hotkey for scourge. X_X LOL! You have no idea. By midgame it's not uncommon for me to have a fleet of like 60+ scourge running around.  | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On March 03 2012 13:29 Fiel wrote: I picked up Brood War a week or two ago and played ZvX against the AI a few times. I suddenly wanted to punch the person who decided that "s" would be a good hotkey for scourge. X_X Dropship incoming 5 + s + s FUUUUU | ||
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EternaLLegacy
United States410 Posts
On March 03 2012 13:35 L_Master wrote: LOL! You have no idea. By midgame it's not uncommon for me to have a fleet of like 60+ scourge running around. And in pro zvp it's not uncommon to see it either =D | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On March 03 2012 12:55 EternaLLegacy wrote: Eh, terran is the hardest race mechanically by far. You simply have to have solid mechanics in every aspect to play them correctly. Protoss is forgiving on micro, zerg is forgiving on macro. But yes, zerg is rather counterintuitive to learn. Since he's an sc2 player I assume he's familiar with at least some of the mechanics of zerg though, so I'd assume it wouldn't be totally foreign. For a new player - zerg is weird as hell. I found Terran the easiest of all races funnily enough (after playing random for a while), I was gonna main Zerg but ZvP just gave me the shits. Hahahaha so good | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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AyameStarcraft
United Kingdom192 Posts
In a nutshell, my heart belongs to SC2 (I did play it first after all) but my brain wants me to play BW. Since I was young I've always loved challenge. Modern games these days, especially fps games offer no challenge on the hardest difficulties for me and games in general are so similar to each other that I actually hate modern gaming. Starcraft, both 1 and 2, are diamonds in the rough so to speak. So what I will do is likely try to get C- at some point in the future but all my efforts are focused on SC2. BW is such an amazing game I just wish I had met it sooner. Thank you all for your support and showing me that there is one community left on the internet that aren't complete dicks. +1 faith in humanity. I just don't like being years and years behind people. It would just take far too long, like months and years long, to catch up and become decent. I originally wanted to hit B+ when I started out but I don't think it's worth the time investment. At least I can watch the OSLs now and actually have some clue what's going on Thank you all and keep on supporting your game! <3 Big love to the guys that helped me understand various things. Especially the guy that taught me the FD build. Pretty much the only build I actually know. | ||
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