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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:04:06
December 08 2011 05:18 GMT
#121
The proposal from the old Fomos article:

[X] Creating an official site for VoDs. (Youtube or of their own creation)
[X] Creating an official streaming site for live streams
[X] Enforcing stoppage of all Youtube channels from further uploading VODs.
[_] Removing all streaming accounts that illegally show live streams.


EDIT: I hope they stop here. I prefer the current live stream system on TL.
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
December 08 2011 05:46 GMT
#122
On December 08 2011 13:58 Hyde wrote:
wow they're going to stream it live on YT? that's a big move.


It's not going to work if they don't reach out to us in the first place. I'm even positively sure no one knows about them uploading VODs until this thread appeared.
(´・ω・`)
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
December 08 2011 05:53 GMT
#123
On December 08 2011 14:18 domane wrote:
The proposal from the old Fomos article:

Show nested quote +
[X] Creating an official site for VoDs. (Youtube or of their own creation)
[_] Creating an official streaming site for live streams
[X] Enforcing stoppage of all Youtube channels from further uploading VODs.
[_] Removing all streaming accounts that illegally show live streams.


EDIT: I hope they stop here. I prefer the current live stream system on TL.


The live stream is already there.

On Youtube. You can watch live through Youtube.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 06:06:40
December 08 2011 05:59 GMT
#124
On December 08 2011 14:06 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 13:55 Sawamura wrote:
I posted my question where I ask if they are working with ogn ? still no response from them... Who is this esport tv people ?

[image loading]


Edit:
I don't like videos that are stretched. It gives me a migraine after watching for more than 15mins. Serious.


the videos are stretched O.o , damn I didn't notice at all..


On December 08 2011 14:18 domane wrote:
The proposal from the old Fomos article:

Show nested quote +
[X] Creating an official site for VoDs. (Youtube or of their own creation)
[X] Creating an official streaming site for live streams
[X] Enforcing stoppage of all Youtube channels from further uploading VODs.
[_] Removing all streaming accounts that illegally show live streams.


EDIT: I hope they stop here. I prefer the current live stream system on TL.


make that two now ... IEG ... I tried googling it but nothing comes up who are they ? Op says they are the one who sold estro and also bought the broadcasting rights to proleague ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
December 08 2011 09:11 GMT
#125
Does anyone know in which countries IEG has the rights to proleague to? Is it only the US, because if it is then all you have to do is upload the vods to another website with servers hosted in another country.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 08 2011 09:24 GMT
#126
If they're going to take away our vod/stream sources they could at least provide them in the proper aspect ratio =.=
Writer
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
December 08 2011 10:15 GMT
#127
On December 08 2011 18:11 Amlitzer wrote:
Does anyone know in which countries IEG has the rights to proleague to? Is it only the US, because if it is then all you have to do is upload the vods to another website with servers hosted in another country.



I would assume its everywhere outside Korea. Or OGN themselves are hosting the content.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 11:34:04
December 08 2011 11:33 GMT
#128
On December 08 2011 13:58 Hyde wrote:
wow they're going to stream it live on YT? that's a big move.


If they are hoping for more viewers, its way too late for that i'd say, sadly.

Are the VoDs on the "new" channel spoiler free?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
vincom2
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1775 Posts
December 08 2011 11:34 GMT
#129
Wutttt? They could at least have said something before springing this, even if they are the rights holders... not a very good start in terms of their PR is it?
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
December 08 2011 12:03 GMT
#130
Sigh, the maiming of the BW community just never ends... This has potential to be great, but somehow I am not hopeful.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
December 08 2011 12:06 GMT
#131
^I can't help but agree.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50611 Posts
December 08 2011 12:12 GMT
#132
On December 08 2011 21:06 Ryo wrote:
^I can't help but agree.


I disagree, this is a good thing until it proves to be otherwise.

we can't be too paranoid.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 08 2011 12:14 GMT
#133
How is it a good thing? The vods are at a weird aspect ratio, as is the stream. and the stream buffered so much it ended up 25 minutes behind. we had a great system working previously, if they start taking streams down then we're going back into the dark ages =.=
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50611 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 12:22:31
December 08 2011 12:19 GMT
#134
doesn't seem like they have control of things outside of youtube(actually even within youtube they are not able to take down PL content),so as far as possible its ok to stream.

seriously only thing bad is the aspect ratio,yes it hurts the eyes but I play BW in widescreen....
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
December 08 2011 12:25 GMT
#135
On December 08 2011 21:14 Kiante wrote:
How is it a good thing? The vods are at a weird aspect ratio, as is the stream. and the stream buffered so much it ended up 25 minutes behind. we had a great system working previously, if they start taking streams down then we're going back into the dark ages =.=

That would be terrible. MBC channel is gone and OGN's new website doesn't work for me.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
December 08 2011 12:30 GMT
#136
On December 08 2011 21:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
doesn't seem like they have control of things outside of youtube(actually even within youtube they are not able to take down PL content),so as far as possible its ok to stream.

seriously only thing bad is the aspect ratio,yes it hurts the eyes but I play BW in widescreen....

excessive buffering into a 25 minute delay is pretty fucking horrible. I'll stick to restreaming, even if they come after tl/twitch and whatever and make us take them down etc.
Writer
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
December 08 2011 12:31 GMT
#137
On December 08 2011 21:14 Kiante wrote:
How is it a good thing? The vods are at a weird aspect ratio, as is the stream. and the stream buffered so much it ended up 25 minutes behind. we had a great system working previously, if they start taking streams down then we're going back into the dark ages =.=

This whole thing is brand new... I think we should give them a chance to improve at least before jumping to conclusions, because it seems to me that their intentions are good.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
December 08 2011 12:32 GMT
#138
On December 08 2011 21:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
doesn't seem like they have control of things outside of youtube(actually even within youtube they are not able to take down PL content),so as far as possible its ok to stream.

seriously only thing bad is the aspect ratio,yes it hurts the eyes but I play BW in widescreen....

they released a bulletin on their page on YT
SF2 and SPL league's broadcasting rights is in the South of Korea e-Sports Association(KeSPA).

Our agency(IEG) are responsible for the broadcasting rights of the KeSPA.

So, We are in charge of e-sports broadcasting rights of all.

Through the channel(esportsTV), we will provide live and VOD service.

If Someone violate any rights, the content will be blocked.

So it looks like they can have a sway on things outside of YT since they're holding the rights. A letter to TL and it's all over, and most likely TL will comply.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50611 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 12:52:34
December 08 2011 12:50 GMT
#139
On December 08 2011 21:32 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 21:19 BLinD-RawR wrote:
doesn't seem like they have control of things outside of youtube(actually even within youtube they are not able to take down PL content),so as far as possible its ok to stream.

seriously only thing bad is the aspect ratio,yes it hurts the eyes but I play BW in widescreen....

they released a bulletin on their page on YT
Show nested quote +
SF2 and SPL league's broadcasting rights is in the South of Korea e-Sports Association(KeSPA).

Our agency(IEG) are responsible for the broadcasting rights of the KeSPA.

So, We are in charge of e-sports broadcasting rights of all.

Through the channel(esportsTV), we will provide live and VOD service.

If Someone violate any rights, the content will be blocked.

So it looks like they can have a sway on things outside of YT since they're holding the rights. A letter to TL and it's all over, and most likely TL will comply.


woah...missed out on that, but on the bright side they are doing a terrible job at blocking people out(again see nuke,maybe sayle has to do the same to avoid these guys).

I am going on the approach similar to XsebT's that I should just give feedback and help them improve their services to us.

until then I just need to download vods from the korean torrents...
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 08 2011 13:12 GMT
#140
Kespa seems to be doing an excellent job at getting the vods up really fast. The only complaint we might even have at this point is the aspect ratio, which I hope some Korean speaking TL member can notify them about. Assuming they haven't already.

The match finished an hour ago and all the vods are already up, this is how you stop "piracy"
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