• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:44
CET 13:44
KST 21:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview3RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion3Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 104
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2138 users

SKT vs Team 8 Post-Game Analysis (Week 1 PL) - Page 3

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 26 2011 10:13 GMT
#41
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=photo_read&keyno=137450&db=photo&page=2&edit_num=3399

this picture of Bisu is too hilarious haha, too bad couldn't just directly post it here
Writerptrk
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 26 2011 10:15 GMT
#42
On November 26 2011 19:13 ArvickHero wrote:
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=photo_read&keyno=137450&db=photo&page=2&edit_num=3399

this picture of Bisu is too hilarious haha, too bad couldn't just directly post it here


Bisu's attempt at the Death Stare was somewhat lacking
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
November 26 2011 10:19 GMT
#43
Glad BW is back!
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
November 26 2011 15:26 GMT
#44
On November 26 2011 14:35 GTR wrote:
- Don't really have much to say about Baby's play, fast command on that map seems pretty solid. Personally, I like getting the quick irradiate over valkyries to defend from mutalisks but its a decision I can't really complain about.

You need valks to defend vs 12p lair and 2h muta or you just die. He would have went to dropship and then vessels if it was 3hat. (speaking in terms of oov fake mech builds and not just straight bio)

If you go straight to vessels then you lose ie Fantasy vs Shine.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 26 2011 15:32 GMT
#45
On November 26 2011 15:51 Shurayuki wrote:
wow so quick, great.
brain doesn't work enough to comprehend now but will indulge myself later ♥♪

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 15:37 Kiante wrote:
it seems like everyone wants to do big gateway plays on outlier, i'm expecting 1 gate dt to become the norm mid-season


that may very well be true but isn't this like the third PvP in a row where Jaehoon Dted? he's not necessarily the norm but of course your theory doesn't rely on that

Jaehoon tends to go DT in PvP when he thinks he hasn't prepared as much as he would have liked.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 26 2011 21:21 GMT
#46
really nice report and the results are very surprising (best v jaedong that is)
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
November 26 2011 21:38 GMT
#47
Awesome, as a BW noob, this is really helpful. It is hard to follow the established scene for a relative newcomer, so I appreciate it.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 26 2011 22:19 GMT
#48
On November 26 2011 16:00 MiXyass wrote:
I'm not saying that the games were bad BUT
I was really expecting better games from team 8th
Baby played solid, and that was it
But soO did play a pretty sloppy game
Those vultures did way too much damage while the mutas did nothing


Thanks for your expert analysis. "The guy who won played well, but everyone who lost was disappointing." Hahahaha.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 26 2011 23:30 GMT
#49
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 27 2011 00:25 GMT
#50
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 00:43:06
November 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#51
Nice writeup, thanks for sharing and I'm looking forward to reading more.
En Taro Violet
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
November 27 2011 01:21 GMT
#52
Nice work GTR!

Baby and By.Sun played really well. I wanted JD push to a 5th game, too bad it didn't happen.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#53
On November 27 2011 09:25 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore

His PvT isn't bad anymore but it's not as good as his PvP and PvZ matchups. I'd much rather throw a Terran up against Bisu than a Protoss or Zerg. The worst scenario for Team 8 is if Jaedong had to fight Bisu imo and they wanted to avoid that.
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 01:45:08
November 27 2011 01:42 GMT
#54
On November 27 2011 10:34 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 09:25 Dakkas wrote:
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore

His PvT isn't bad anymore but it's not as good as his PvP and PvZ matchups. I'd much rather throw a Terran up against Bisu than a Protoss or Zerg. The worst scenario for Team 8 is if Jaedong had to fight Bisu imo and they wanted to avoid that.


Err, no. Statistically speaking, his PvT is better than his PvP for 2011; a lot better, actually. Respectively, he stands at ~79% and ~65%. Only Flash has been a real threat to Bisu's PvT as of late, but Flash has a tendency to make any player look bad.
So close, and yet so far
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 27 2011 01:48 GMT
#55
On November 27 2011 10:34 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 09:25 Dakkas wrote:
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore

His PvT isn't bad anymore but it's not as good as his PvP and PvZ matchups. I'd much rather throw a Terran up against Bisu than a Protoss or Zerg. The worst scenario for Team 8 is if Jaedong had to fight Bisu imo and they wanted to avoid that.


Have you even followed his games for the last year?
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
November 27 2011 03:29 GMT
#56
On November 27 2011 07:19 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 16:00 MiXyass wrote:
I'm not saying that the games were bad BUT
I was really expecting better games from team 8th
Baby played solid, and that was it
But soO did play a pretty sloppy game
Those vultures did way too much damage while the mutas did nothing


Thanks for your expert analysis. "The guy who won played well, but everyone who lost was disappointing." Hahahaha.


It's actually funnier that your quote doesn't really summarize what he said
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 27 2011 03:47 GMT
#57
soo disappointed with jaedong T___T losing to best wtf..
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 03:58:52
November 27 2011 03:51 GMT
#58
Thanks for the analysis GTR. I'm going to look forward to these write-ups each week.

When BeSt came out against JD I started preparing myself for a Fantasy-Killer decider, but BeSt looked polished and capitalised on JD's uncharacteristic sloppiness. For me SKT looked (not surprisingly) better prepared, though Team 8 will only get stronger as they get into a solid training regime and get used to their new environment.
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
November 27 2011 07:43 GMT
#59
does anyone else think that best of 5 is too short and prevents non A-class players from participating? I mean when you have a team like CJ, they only need to send out their 5 best players in a situation where they probably only need 3 or 4 to actually win. Then they don't need to send out anybody other than leta, horang2, hydra, effort, movie, etc etc...
Translator
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45218 Posts
November 27 2011 07:51 GMT
#60
Thanks for the write-up! Glad I got to catch these
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12:00
Bonus Cup #1
uThermal327
IndyStarCraft 246
SteadfastSC106
MindelVK21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 327
IndyStarCraft 246
Lowko228
SteadfastSC 106
BRAT_OK 90
MindelVK 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5332
Rain 3197
Horang2 917
EffOrt 777
BeSt 585
firebathero 267
Rush 239
ggaemo 238
Last 196
Hm[arnc] 181
[ Show more ]
Killer 166
Pusan 156
Zeus 150
Mong 123
Hyun 116
Aegong 93
JYJ 79
Leta 77
Barracks 76
Bonyth 69
Mind 49
Nal_rA 42
Shuttle 40
910 40
yabsab 40
ToSsGirL 37
Free 33
Sexy 25
Yoon 24
zelot 24
GoRush 18
Sacsri 14
Bale 13
scan(afreeca) 12
SilentControl 11
HiyA 7
Terrorterran 6
Icarus 1
Dota 2
Gorgc3304
XcaliburYe323
League of Legends
C9.Mang0369
rGuardiaN25
Counter-Strike
zeus952
oskar103
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor139
Other Games
singsing1989
B2W.Neo1217
Pyrionflax354
crisheroes267
Sick226
Fuzer 77
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2265
StarCraft 2
WardiTV987
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 32
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 63
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV0
League of Legends
• Jankos1971
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
7h 16m
BSL 21
7h 16m
Mihu vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs Sziky
Bonyth vs DuGu
XuanXuan vs eOnzErG
Dewalt vs eOnzErG
All-Star Invitational
13h 31m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 16m
OSC
23h 16m
BSL 21
1d 7h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
1d 20h
Wardi Open
1d 23h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Big Brain Bouts
6 days
Serral vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.