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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 26 2011 10:13 GMT
#41
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=photo_read&keyno=137450&db=photo&page=2&edit_num=3399

this picture of Bisu is too hilarious haha, too bad couldn't just directly post it here
Writerptrk
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 26 2011 10:15 GMT
#42
On November 26 2011 19:13 ArvickHero wrote:
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=photo_read&keyno=137450&db=photo&page=2&edit_num=3399

this picture of Bisu is too hilarious haha, too bad couldn't just directly post it here


Bisu's attempt at the Death Stare was somewhat lacking
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
November 26 2011 10:19 GMT
#43
Glad BW is back!
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
November 26 2011 15:26 GMT
#44
On November 26 2011 14:35 GTR wrote:
- Don't really have much to say about Baby's play, fast command on that map seems pretty solid. Personally, I like getting the quick irradiate over valkyries to defend from mutalisks but its a decision I can't really complain about.

You need valks to defend vs 12p lair and 2h muta or you just die. He would have went to dropship and then vessels if it was 3hat. (speaking in terms of oov fake mech builds and not just straight bio)

If you go straight to vessels then you lose ie Fantasy vs Shine.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 26 2011 15:32 GMT
#45
On November 26 2011 15:51 Shurayuki wrote:
wow so quick, great.
brain doesn't work enough to comprehend now but will indulge myself later ♥♪

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 15:37 Kiante wrote:
it seems like everyone wants to do big gateway plays on outlier, i'm expecting 1 gate dt to become the norm mid-season


that may very well be true but isn't this like the third PvP in a row where Jaehoon Dted? he's not necessarily the norm but of course your theory doesn't rely on that

Jaehoon tends to go DT in PvP when he thinks he hasn't prepared as much as he would have liked.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 26 2011 21:21 GMT
#46
really nice report and the results are very surprising (best v jaedong that is)
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hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
November 26 2011 21:38 GMT
#47
Awesome, as a BW noob, this is really helpful. It is hard to follow the established scene for a relative newcomer, so I appreciate it.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
November 26 2011 22:19 GMT
#48
On November 26 2011 16:00 MiXyass wrote:
I'm not saying that the games were bad BUT
I was really expecting better games from team 8th
Baby played solid, and that was it
But soO did play a pretty sloppy game
Those vultures did way too much damage while the mutas did nothing


Thanks for your expert analysis. "The guy who won played well, but everyone who lost was disappointing." Hahahaha.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 26 2011 23:30 GMT
#49
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 27 2011 00:25 GMT
#50
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 00:43:06
November 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#51
Nice writeup, thanks for sharing and I'm looking forward to reading more.
En Taro Violet
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
November 27 2011 01:21 GMT
#52
Nice work GTR!

Baby and By.Sun played really well. I wanted JD push to a 5th game, too bad it didn't happen.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#53
On November 27 2011 09:25 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore

His PvT isn't bad anymore but it's not as good as his PvP and PvZ matchups. I'd much rather throw a Terran up against Bisu than a Protoss or Zerg. The worst scenario for Team 8 is if Jaedong had to fight Bisu imo and they wanted to avoid that.
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 01:45:08
November 27 2011 01:42 GMT
#54
On November 27 2011 10:34 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 09:25 Dakkas wrote:
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore

His PvT isn't bad anymore but it's not as good as his PvP and PvZ matchups. I'd much rather throw a Terran up against Bisu than a Protoss or Zerg. The worst scenario for Team 8 is if Jaedong had to fight Bisu imo and they wanted to avoid that.


Err, no. Statistically speaking, his PvT is better than his PvP for 2011; a lot better, actually. Respectively, he stands at ~79% and ~65%. Only Flash has been a real threat to Bisu's PvT as of late, but Flash has a tendency to make any player look bad.
So close, and yet so far
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 27 2011 01:48 GMT
#55
On November 27 2011 10:34 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 09:25 Dakkas wrote:
On November 27 2011 08:30 Slow Motion wrote:
I said this in the live report thread, but I think SKT made an amazing move sending out soo and sun first. I think SKT knew that Team 8 knows Bisu is often sent out early in proleague. They tried to catch him with their two best Terrans to maximize their chances. Sending soo and sun completely destroyed that strategy.


Eh? That's a fair point however Bisu beat Baby and Sea last time he played both of them. And his vT isn't his weakest match-up anymore

His PvT isn't bad anymore but it's not as good as his PvP and PvZ matchups. I'd much rather throw a Terran up against Bisu than a Protoss or Zerg. The worst scenario for Team 8 is if Jaedong had to fight Bisu imo and they wanted to avoid that.


Have you even followed his games for the last year?
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
November 27 2011 03:29 GMT
#56
On November 27 2011 07:19 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 16:00 MiXyass wrote:
I'm not saying that the games were bad BUT
I was really expecting better games from team 8th
Baby played solid, and that was it
But soO did play a pretty sloppy game
Those vultures did way too much damage while the mutas did nothing


Thanks for your expert analysis. "The guy who won played well, but everyone who lost was disappointing." Hahahaha.


It's actually funnier that your quote doesn't really summarize what he said
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 27 2011 03:47 GMT
#57
soo disappointed with jaedong T___T losing to best wtf..
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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 03:58:52
November 27 2011 03:51 GMT
#58
Thanks for the analysis GTR. I'm going to look forward to these write-ups each week.

When BeSt came out against JD I started preparing myself for a Fantasy-Killer decider, but BeSt looked polished and capitalised on JD's uncharacteristic sloppiness. For me SKT looked (not surprisingly) better prepared, though Team 8 will only get stronger as they get into a solid training regime and get used to their new environment.
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
November 27 2011 07:43 GMT
#59
does anyone else think that best of 5 is too short and prevents non A-class players from participating? I mean when you have a team like CJ, they only need to send out their 5 best players in a situation where they probably only need 3 or 4 to actually win. Then they don't need to send out anybody other than leta, horang2, hydra, effort, movie, etc etc...
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46386 Posts
November 27 2011 07:51 GMT
#60
Thanks for the write-up! Glad I got to catch these
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