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Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:26:56
November 25 2011 18:26 GMT
#281
On November 26 2011 03:18 Archers_bane wrote:
is there a quick shortcut button on TL to check my fantasy team without going to this thread?

Just memorize the link
http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php

Or what rotinegg said
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:53:05
November 25 2011 18:26 GMT
#282
On November 26 2011 03:18 Archers_bane wrote:
is there a quick shortcut button on TL to check my fantasy team without going to this thread?

on the top navigation bar, Features > Fantasy > SC:BW
On November 26 2011 03:26 Chocolate wrote:
Or what rotinegg is about to say

fixed :p
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KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:30:42
November 25 2011 18:30 GMT
#283
nm im a noob plz delete
Frecco
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland5 Posts
November 25 2011 18:37 GMT
#284
Thanks for the answer rotinegg, I guess Sea is my best option, because my team lacked a top-notch terran. And here is my final lineup.

Team Best

Main Team
1 (T)Bbyong
4 (P)BeSt (captain)
4 (P)By.Sun
5 (Z)EffOrt
4 (Z)n.Die_soO
7 (T)Sea
5 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
5 (Z)Calm
2 (Z)Modesty
6 (P)Snow
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 18:46:46
November 25 2011 18:38 GMT
#285
On November 26 2011 02:48 Frecco wrote:
Any advice for picking up 7 pointer, as I only started following BW in the later stages of Jin Air, so my knowledge is a quite limited.


Don't pick Movie he is a great player and all , but CJ are so overstacked that he won't get to play as much as the other 3 players .

Sea is a great all around player , he was extremely solid in TvP and TvT last season , but his TvZ was taking a beating , but now he is practising with Jeadong so who knows .

If it was last season i would have picked Stats for sure , but he recently had a jaw surgery and he is chintoss no longer , some people are speculating that he lost his super powers , because of that .

Bogus is STX's ACE and will probably play in every match . He had quite impressive TvZ and TvP last season and his TvT also wasn't to shabby .

Out of all the players i think Stats and Bogus will get to play almost all the time , then Sea will play at least 80 % of the time and Movie will have the lowest amounts of games . I think Stats is the best out of the 4 players , Sea is a kinda of a dark horse now that he is on the new team and he is probably second in terms of skill . But i would pick Bogus he will play in all games , and he is an up and comer that still strives to prove himself .

This decision is also based that protoss are a lot depended on maps and are fragile against hydra busts in PvZ which is a strategy that every zerg and his mother have perfected doing . Also PvP isn't the most stable MU , it could turn in to a coin flip when 1 player gets a BO advantage in which at the highest level of play usually is enough to decide the game .
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 19:29:21
November 25 2011 19:28 GMT
#286
On November 26 2011 02:48 Frecco wrote:
Any advice for picking up 7 pointer, as I only started following BW in the later stages of Jin Air, so my knowledge is a quite limited.


I tend to stay away from players over 6 points: while they usually play more, they also tend to not be quite as "efficient", so if you get a bad run, it's a problem. Though it's easier to trade them off, too. There are pluses and minuses to everything.

Anyway, the four are (T)Bogus, (P)Movie, (T)Sea, and (P)Stats.


First choice: (T)Bogus is his team's ace for now, and will play most matches. He gets a boost because he's the team's only good Terran, and STX's only convincingly good players are (P)Shuttle, and (Z)Calm who is inconsistent. (Z)by.hero should be their 4th, going by past history, but you never know with STX. The point is, Bogus is a reliable player on an unreliable team, and thus the safest pick.

Second choice: (T)Sea is the best player of the four, and is his team's #2. He has two possible downsides: first, he's been playing forever, which in any competition means he's a threat to suddenly fall off a cliff. Second, and more seriously, the 8 team is stacked, and depending on what the coach decides it's vaguely possible that Sea could fall down as far as #5, behind (T)BaBy, (Z)Killer, and even (P)Jaehoon, which would likely mean he would get fewer games. I don't see him dropping farther than #3, because Baby's never really convinced me and Jaehoon is still Jaehoon. I think he stays as the team's best Terran, which should be just fine as far as getting and winning games.

Third choice: (P)Stats is, of the four, probably the worst player. He's occasionally brilliant, but was essentially a 0.500 player last year (outside of playoffs). With the addition of (T)Mind and potential improvement from (Z)Action or (Z)Crazy-Hydra, I think Stats' value has actually fallen this year, as I don't see him as more than KT's 3rd best player. That said, he should still see a lineup for most matches unless the maps are really bad.

Last choice: (P)Movie is probably the #2 player in this bunch. While I think he's CJ's best Protoss, it's only by a hair, and he split time fairly evenly with (P)Horang2 and (P)Snow last year despite a better win percentage and greater improvement over the year. With the addition of (Z)EffOrt to the lineup again and the reduction to a five-game format, I don't see Movie playing more than 4 times in a round: even if he's the consensus #1 Protoss this year he's only #4 on the team behind (Z)Hydra, (T)Leta, and EffOrt – and will inevitably split time with the other Protoss anyway because that's what CJ does.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 19:55:57
November 25 2011 19:39 GMT
#287
Stats was the second most winning-nest Protoss last year, only behind Bisu.

61.5% Total Last Year:
Stats 2010-2011 Proleague

60.9% Without Playoffs:
Stats 2010-2011 Regular Season

55.3% Without Playoffs and Without Winners League:
Stats 2010-2011 Proleague Regular Season (no Winners League)

55% is still quite a bit above .500, and that is really cherry-picking his results negatively. His playoffs and winners league stats cannot be ignored, since they only give you confidence in his play.

Personally I didn't pick Stats, but that's really because I have to pick Stork (fanboy). I would pick Stats if I weren't so biased. He is KT's undervalued workhorse after Flash.

Bogus seems like a safer choice, since he only loses to S Class and High A Class, but if you need a great Protoss you cannot go wrong with Stats. Movie has to compete with Snow and Horang2, while Stats is the top of his team and perhaps will have to slightly share with a developing Wookie at worst.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
November 25 2011 20:00 GMT
#288
Wooooo

Main Team
4 (P)BeSt
2 (P)Brave
5 (Z)EffOrt (captain)
4 (T)firebathero
7 (T)Sea
3 (Z)Shine
5 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
5 (Z)Calm
3 (Z)Perfective
5 (P)Tyson


Heres my team for now, seems im not the only one expecting great things out of EffOrt this year!
Also the link to Brave is wrong, should be this obviously (P)Brave

Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Phradamon
Profile Joined January 2008
Romania191 Posts
November 25 2011 20:29 GMT
#289
Phradamon

Main Team
10 (T)Flash (captain)
4 (P)Kal
6 (Z)Killer
1 (P)Reach
1 (Z)Sacsri
3 (Z)Shine
5 KT Rolster

Anti Team
6 (P)Jaehoon
4 (Z)n.Die_soO
3 (T)Ssak
I have the ultimate answer, i seek the ultimate question
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
November 25 2011 20:47 GMT
#290
On November 25 2011 05:08 LighT. wrote:
Main Team
Team: Team 8: BaBy/Sea/Jaedong/Killer/Jaehoon....BO5 setup? It's asking for dominance.

The Veterans
10 FlaSh - Going to continue his dominance and he's still the unmatched ace of KT.
4 BeSt - I feel like I should cheer for a protoss and after the expensive cost of FlaSh and Team 8, he'll put up decent numbers that'll produce results
5 EffOrt - I'm high on him and his aggressive play makes him my favorite player. Rumoured to be ripping up in-house tournaments..He's backk ;D
2 Modesty - Cheap Cost for a low risk high pay player, he's made some trips to OSL/MSL, good sniper, I believe in him

The Coming out party:
1 Where - Banking on some production from him after some successful run in the Proleague last year
3 Perfective - I'm sensing breakout season after an amazing run during the playoffs


The Anti Team:
Kal -Military ace effect
ggaemo - he's had a strong run near the end but...I dont see him doing well now that he has to face more quality competition
Action - I just dont see him producing results this season...he was struggling in the playoffs and near the end...and with MinD...I dont see him getting a lot of...Action.. yeaaa!

Anyone want to evaluate my team -.-?
It's my first time playing SPL Fantasy and being caught up on the scene only lately, I'm not really sure about my picks, and where some of the faults/positives my lie. I'm basically going by OSL/MSL/SPL playoff knowledge ><
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3618 Posts
November 25 2011 21:12 GMT
#291
On November 25 2011 05:08 LighT. wrote:
Team: Team 8: BaBy/Sea/Jaedong/Killer/Jaehoon....BO5 setup? It's asking for dominance.


Good call. I personally prioritize players, but this is a good approach as well.

On November 25 2011 05:08 LighT. wrote:
10 FlaSh - Going to continue his dominance and he's still the unmatched ace of KT.
4 BeSt - I feel like I should cheer for a protoss and after the expensive cost of FlaSh and Team 8, he'll put up decent numbers that'll produce results
5 EffOrt - I'm high on him and his aggressive play makes him my favorite player. Rumoured to be ripping up in-house tournaments..He's backk ;D
2 Modesty - Cheap Cost for a low risk high pay player, he's made some trips to OSL/MSL, good sniper, I believe in him
1 Where - Banking on some production from him after some successful run in the Proleague last year
3 Perfective - I'm sensing breakout season after an amazing run during the playoffs


Flash is fine, though I think he's overpriced – I'd personally go with Hydra or ZerO and add some better players to the bottom of the team. BeSt and EffOrt are solid.

But I don't like any of your low-cost players:

My top 1-point player is BByong, who's CJ's #3/#2 Terran behind Leta. My second choice is Peace, who's ACE's #2 Zerg and was a solid prospect for MBC.

Modesty as a 2-pointer isn't too bad. He has potential, but hasn't quite broken through. I think Piano or Brave are better (and undervalued), but not much better.

My big question is Perfective, who's overpriced: he's KT's #4 Zerg behind Action (solid), Crazy-Hydra (good), and HoeJJa (established). All the 3-pointers are unpredictable, but I think better candidates are Iris, Shine, or Grape.

On November 25 2011 05:08 LighT. wrote:
The Anti Team:
Kal -Military ace effect
ggaemo - he's had a strong run near the end but...I dont see him doing well now that he has to face more quality competition
Action - I just dont see him producing results this season...he was struggling in the playoffs and near the end...and with MinD...I dont see him getting a lot of...Action.. yeaaa!


ggaemo is fine, though my reasoning is more that historically 2nd year ACE players fall off a lot.
Action is mediocre but will get games as KT's top Zerg.

Kal is the one who makes me nervous: most good players (and some bad ones) who go to ACE see a big jump in production their first months, and ACE doesn't have another competent Protoss player, so Kal will see a lot of games. But s2 is the only worse 4-pointer, so I don't think this is too big a problem. I might though take Tyson & Hyuk instead of ggaemo & Kal, as a better use of the 8 points.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
November 25 2011 21:14 GMT
#292
I am so excited for this!

Gosus

Main Team
1 (T)Bbyong
10 (T)Flash (captain)
6 (P)Jangbi
4 (Z)n.Die_soO
1 (P)Reach
3 (T)Ssak
5 SK Telecom T1

Anti Team
2 (Z)herO[jOin]
6 (P)Snow
5 (P)Tyson
Long live BroodWar!
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 21:36:50
November 25 2011 21:35 GMT
#293
Nuked
GuMiho <3
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 25 2011 21:55 GMT
#294
I had a Flash/Bisu/Team 8 setup at first (because of how everyone was priced and how things were scored, 1 Flash or Bisu seemed to be worth more than 2 5-pointers), but that's no way to win - so now I've got a totally different, all-inish setup. Let's see how well it'll do!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
lorcasTV
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada100 Posts
November 25 2011 21:58 GMT
#295
On November 25 2011 18:20 L_Master wrote:
(P)Horang2 Risky but Horang2 is basically just a PvP sniper that was playing OK at the end of last season. Don't expect him to continue as strongly.


That's exactly what I thought last season and boy did I regret that I hope you're right for this year, I didn't have the heart to try it again.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
November 25 2011 22:00 GMT
#296
ORNITHORYNQUEZ

Main Team
4 (P)By.Sun -> Promising Protoss, i really don't know if he'll play as much as last season because of the Bo5 format, and Bisu + BeSt + Afrotoss it's a lot of protoss to deal with in the same team. But still, not a bad choice i guess.
1 (P)Dear -> with Kal transfering to ACE, he' will become protoss#2 on STX's roster and he's cheap in term of points.
8 (T)Fantasy (captain) -> Some people say that without Coach Oov he sucks, i dont think so.
2 (T)Last -> Just look at his Dream League stats.
6 (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey -> Nothing to say, strong matchups.
3 (Z)Shine -> Cheese the hell out of everyone !
5 CJ Entus -> super balanced and strong line-up.

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action -> His past season was relly chaotic, i don't expect him to do much.
4 (P)free -> Please continue your slump.
4 (P)Kal -> He was struggling past season, and i don't think that ACE will help him that much, plus you're not FireBatHero.


I think i made a balanced team, 2 players of each race, and i focused on players with a lot of apperances during the league, the more they play, the more they're expected/supposed to bring points.

What do you think ?
I have to return some videotapes.
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
November 25 2011 22:30 GMT
#297
The saddest thing about this season is that for the first time I can't have perfectman as my team captain. ;_; Kim Tae Gyun come back to us!!
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
mute20
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 22:44:25
November 25 2011 22:42 GMT
#298
Looks interesting! I have fun in fantasy football and hockey so this would natural fill the void basketball slot.
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
November 25 2011 22:58 GMT
#299
Not to be a negative nancy, but it is a bit disheartening to see so few players available to use. Anyways, thanks to the whole FPL team for getting this up in time! GL to all (not really, I want first place >=D).
KT_Violet
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 25 2011 23:38 GMT
#300
Is Shuttle worth putting on my team? He seemed like a very reliable P and T sniper last Proleague, and I foresee him and Bogus getting a lot of stage time.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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