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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
July 27 2011 14:51 GMT
#1061
I think it's a problem regarding the image of esports and broodwar overall. If a media company wants to shut this down, it will be apparent to other company that this is not sustainable. Unless the board of a company or some sort of high enough reputation person has enough passion and interest in it, otherwise it is very unlikely that the broodwar/esports scene will be able to gain any enterprise support anymore.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
July 27 2011 14:52 GMT
#1062
Wtf. I mean, really, wtf?
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
July 27 2011 14:54 GMT
#1063
On July 27 2011 23:51 TheOnly92 wrote:
I think it's a problem regarding the image of esports and broodwar overall. If a media company wants to shut this down, it will be apparent to other company that this is not sustainable. Unless the board of a company or some sort of high enough reputation person has enough passion and interest in it, otherwise it is very unlikely that the broodwar/esports scene will be able to gain any enterprise support anymore.

Yes, this is the general concern. I'm pretty sure Broodwar was (probably still is) the most successful esport they've ever had on television, so if a company that has been deeply involved for years is pulling out, it casts a long shadow across every other game. "If the most profitable game is no longer earning, what does that say about other games?"
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
July 27 2011 14:54 GMT
#1064
simply put, SC2 being on MBCgame would be better than SC2 not being on MBCgame. With the agreement between KeSPA and Blizzard, it was bound to happen eventually (SC2 on OGN will still happen). TV is much better than streams at reaching the casual audience, like the massive numbers of BW fangirls.

No BW players will switch to SC2 because of this, there isn't any less money in BW because of this, it's just that there will only be about half as many televised games as before.
I drop suckas like Plinko
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 14:57:16
July 27 2011 14:56 GMT
#1065
On July 27 2011 23:54 Gann1 wrote:No BW players will switch to SC2 because of this, there isn't any less money in BW because of this, it's just that there will only be about half as many televised games as before.


That's kind of a contradiction. If there's less games on TV, there's less advertising which means less money in the sport.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
July 27 2011 14:59 GMT
#1066
On July 27 2011 23:54 Gann1 wrote:
There isn't any less money in BW because of this, it's just that there will only be about half as many televised games as before.

That's incorrect. The money in BW will drop directly because of this. Even if you exclude the prize money for winnings and the bonuses in player contracts, the money will still drop. The reason sponsors pay players is because the exposure they get makes the investment worthwhile. Having 50% of your exposure disappear is going to make that value drop significantly, which means salaries will also drop.
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
July 27 2011 14:59 GMT
#1067
ugh, sad sad news I cant even imagine a world without MSL, been part of my life for like 5+ years, will never forget the savior era when he rolled everyone in MSL like 5 times in a row. Also keep SC2 out of this thread pls, who cares what this means to sc2, obviously this thread should be about what this means to bw and not SC2.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
July 27 2011 14:59 GMT
#1068
I've got an idea, lets put all our efforts into Maverck's bw mod, and make it exactly like BW. Then get them to broadcast SC2BW and eventually everyone will watch that. Screw SC2
conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
July 27 2011 14:59 GMT
#1069
today is a day for mourning...


...and maybe alcohol.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 27 2011 15:02 GMT
#1070
God Bless
FlopTurnReaver
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Switzerland1980 Posts
July 27 2011 15:05 GMT
#1071
This is terrible

I guess the chances of a new tv channel taking it's place are pretty slim :/

Do we know what happens to SPL now? I mean now they can't play 2 matches at the same time anymore.
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
July 27 2011 15:06 GMT
#1072
fucking really, NO......... MSL

dude, only one league for broodwar, fuck no : (
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Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 15:07:56
July 27 2011 15:06 GMT
#1073
Another problem: if competitive BW in Korea dies, what incentive does a company like Samsung have to keep sponsoring eSports? I think they'd have a hard time convincing their higher executives about the investment, "hey, there's a new game but with way way less spectators and exposure!". I doubt there will be a Samsung Khan in SC2.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 15:07:49
July 27 2011 15:07 GMT
#1074
I wonder what OGN's response to all this will be.

On July 27 2011 23:59 Dante08 wrote:
I've got an idea, lets put all our efforts into Maverck's bw mod, and make it exactly like BW. Then get them to broadcast SC2BW and eventually everyone will watch that. Screw SC2

Pretty sure it wont work -- you can't accomplish things like worker drilling on the SC2 engine.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3455 Posts
July 27 2011 15:07 GMT
#1075
The dream is ending...
MBC had a good run.
BW will burrow.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
July 27 2011 15:07 GMT
#1076
Everyone change there icon to support the heroes!
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 27 2011 15:07 GMT
#1077
blink-blink.. so, no more MSLs?? thats.. wtf
come on, someone else has to continue the MSLs?? =(
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 27 2011 15:08 GMT
#1078
On July 27 2011 23:59 Dante08 wrote:
I've got an idea, lets put all our efforts into Maverck's bw mod, and make it exactly like BW. Then get them to broadcast SC2BW and eventually everyone will watch that. Screw SC2

I don't believe thats possible. I remember reading somewhere that a problem with recreating BW feel was due to the fact that in BW a unit can only move in 16 different directions whereas in SC2 its pretty much infinite. Theres not point if it looks like BW but doesn't feel like BW.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#1079
On July 28 2011 00:08 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 23:59 Dante08 wrote:
I've got an idea, lets put all our efforts into Maverck's bw mod, and make it exactly like BW. Then get them to broadcast SC2BW and eventually everyone will watch that. Screw SC2

I don't believe thats possible. I remember reading somewhere that a problem with recreating BW feel was due to the fact that in BW a unit can only move in 16 different directions whereas in SC2 its pretty much infinite. Theres not point if it looks like BW but doesn't feel like BW.


It's possible that someone would figure it out, or that Blizzard could actually just make a setting for this in the editor. They constantly update the SC2 map/mod editor to have new features that are only useful in very limited circumstances. This could be one of those circumstances.
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eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 15:13:32
July 27 2011 15:12 GMT
#1080
On July 27 2011 23:29 Chargelot wrote:
Multiple MLG Events were on the American TV station USA.


Yeah but the viewership wasn't high enough to continue it after 2006, which is why in 2007 it was on G4 and now they don't do it at all anymore. To be fair, it was highlight clips and a general overview of each tournament with a good production value and it wasn't anything close to live (The first episode aired like 8 months after the first event).

Meaning as of right now, there isn't really a good market for it to be successfully put on television outside of Korea.
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