they could make some insanely sick RPGs with shit like this..it's too bad there probably isn't more than a handfull of good ums map makers left, if even that

Chanoipy

Canada320 Posts

February 12 2005 21:19 GMT

#24

I never thought starcraft could look so beautiful

This stuff tops warcraft 3 graphics, simply because it's not only visually appealing, but it has a great sense of mood and atmosphere, which warcraft 3 imo doesn't, since the style is so cartoony.

8882

2736 Posts

February 12 2005 21:59 GMT

#25

actually, the saddest fact is that even the best melee map makers seem to be noobs in comparison to ums map makers. ums-mappers know a lot of tricks, which could be used in melee.
for example it is possible to place buildings/units on maps in MELEE (NO USE MAP SETTINGS NEEDED!) (give them for player 12) -which allows more ways to 'block' things -instead of minerals you can place a supply depot etc, you can place command centers for zerg to infest and so on
it is also possible to place sprites, which are like units, but cant be killed

you see some examples of sprites+square terrain, bigger ramps (known for a long time by ums map makers)

unfortunately ums mappers dont know much about melee and melee map makers refuse to check staredit.net just to learn some tricks

Excalibur_Z

United States12257 Posts

February 13 2005 00:01 GMT

#26

On February 13 2005 06:59 8882 wrote:
you see some examples of sprites+square terrain, bigger ramps (known for a long time by ums map makers)

unfortunately ums mappers dont know much about melee and melee map makers refuse to check staredit.net just to learn some tricks

I wouldn't say they don't know about it. Look at Raid-Assault. There are extra-long ramps in that map. They probably only add features which are conducive to good gameplay.

ihatett

United States2289 Posts

February 13 2005 00:08 GMT

#27

When I still played ums maps, I saw some crazier stuff than this. I swear to god that I saw one map that had the actual start location icon on it (the target). Also, I saw units that had flickering blue on them, I saw buildings build on air, I saw untis walking on space, I saw creep with no colony, and a bunch of other shit I can't remember. It seems that these guys use that knowledge to make pretty maps, while the ums people use it to make... ums maps.

EDIT: Also, these f'ed up ramps would really change the game. However, have they found a hack to make ramps go "backwards"? That wouldn't change the game, it would just make map-making easier.

Empyrean

17082 Posts

February 13 2005 00:17 GMT

#28

It's not a hack, they used a Terrain Placer =/

SchOOl_VicTIm

Greece2394 Posts

February 13 2005 00:18 GMT

#29

wow!! I sit amazed :O

ihatett

United States2289 Posts

February 13 2005 00:49 GMT

#30

On February 13 2005 09:17 Empyrean wrote:
It's not a hack, they used a Terrain Placer =/

I used "hack" as in "hack something together"...

OneOther

United States10774 Posts

February 13 2005 01:00 GMT

#31

wow..truly impressing..those look so cooool

TeRRan`UseR

Canada692 Posts

February 13 2005 01:11 GMT

#32

Those look amazing, but some look photoshopped.

Physician

United States4146 Posts

February 13 2005 01:36 GMT

#33

8882 ~ ur right. It is the synergy between these two communities that would own.

fanta[Rn]

Japan2465 Posts

February 13 2005 02:02 GMT

#34

i wanna download that map but i cant find it on their page?

btw check out the half-life movie map or the "After Earth" movie map, both are great, well done

IntoTheWow

is awesome32282 Posts

February 13 2005 03:22 GMT

#35

Wow i would love to see some of that stuff added into melee maps.

yknarf

United States90 Posts

February 13 2005 03:25 GMT

#36

oh my god does anybody have that map to d/l?

8882

2736 Posts

February 13 2005 03:45 GMT

#37

On February 13 2005 09:01 Excalibur_Z wrote:

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I wouldn't say they don't know about it. Look at Raid-Assault. There are extra-long ramps in that map. They probably only add features which are conducive to good gameplay.

This is 1year or 1,5(?)old trick. I think it was known before starforge was created. I think it was possible to do with ISOM (or however it was called, which was much older)

The square terrain is interesting, so as the fake creep.
It is possible to make (ums, not melee) maps which go with ~1,5speed and ~4speed etc