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It's my opinion that 'The Tyrant'  Jaedong deserves to be considered one of the bonjwas and in a lengthy article I use argumentation, statistics and context to make my case.
The three major criteria I consider:
-Accomplishments
-Domination through excellence
-Historical context
Some of the sub-criteria discussed:
-The significance of JvZ
-Jaedong as an all time clutch player
-Jaedong's ELO peaks vs. those of the bonjwas
-Jaedong's finals, titles and semi-final streaks vs. those of the bonjwas
-The  Flash factor
-The sAviOr factor - Domination without qualification
-The NaDa factor - one part or the whole?
-The iloveoov factor - the deceptive nature of perfection
-The BoxeR factor - silver still shines in the light of greatness
The article can be read in full at SK Gaming.
Warning: Contains spoilers for semi-final #1 of the ABC Mart MSL!
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He would have been considered one... if it wasn't for Flash. :3
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On May 28 2011 17:22 moopie wrote:
He would have been considered one... if it wasn't for Flash. :3
considered?
if it weren't for flash he would most definitely be crowned Bonjwa.
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JD is S+ class but not bonjwa.
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For me, Both JD and Flash are Bonjwas. JD qualified as a bonjwa during his peak and I don't know why he isn't crowned yet(especially when he won Nate MSL). They should've did before Flash came because it seems to be too late now.
Edit: I understand why his victory in Nate isn't that "legit" but I think(he won that game and) that he still deserves to be a bonjwa. Just my opinion.+ Show Spoiler +
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I consider both Flash and Jaedong bonjwas. Maybe people don't agree with my criteria, but I think that if there are two players that dominate the scene and only lose to each other reliably they can both be considered bonjwas. Would boxer not be a bonjwa if there were a clone of himself playing?
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I may be ignorant... but what defines a Bonjwa? is it just a player who dominates against all odds? The best player at a give time or what?
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Seems like this article is: "oh, Jaedong is starting to fade away, poor thing, let's make him a bonjwa".
And he isn't.
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There can only be one bonjwa at the time, and we already have Flash, so no.
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I M O Jaedong is a Bonjwa and so is flash... idk jaedong was not considered one a long time ago...
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On May 28 2011 17:33 ff7legend wrote:
I may be ignorant... but what defines a Bonjwa? is it just a player who dominates against all odds? The best player at a give time or what?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bonjwa
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He is one, it's just his anti-fans that would tell you otherwise.
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Normally you see these threads when + Show Spoiler +a player wins an MSL/OSL, not when they just got knocked out of one
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On May 28 2011 17:35 Nikon wrote:
He isn't one, it's just his fans that would tell you otherwise.
Correction.
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After Savior, it took Flash winning both finals at the same time to finally reach bonjwa status, on top of being the clearly most dominant player in PL. The stakes for becoming one have been impossibly high since Savior and it's frankly startling and, I think, an aberration that Flash became one as I don't think he'll come close to such feats again.
Jaedong will be the best player to not be a bonjwa, sad but true.
On May 28 2011 17:31 NicksonReyes wrote:
For me, Both JD and Flash are Bonjwas. JD qualified as a bonjwa during his peak and I don't know why he isn't crowned yet(especially when he won Nate MSL). They should've did before Flash came because it seems to be too late now.
Do you honestly not get why his Nate MSL win wasn't the final crowning achievement?
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Bonjwa is just a fucking word, which 95% of all people here are not even able to use correctly. The obsession with this word is just a complete mystery to me, I really don't know why it isn't enough to say "best player of 2008/2009" or whatever.
I don't lose any sleep over the fact that Flash is considered a Bonjwa and Jaedong isn't. There is just so little that seperates their greatness. Do you guys really feel better if one day some korean commentators are screaming in a high-pitched voice "He is bonjwa, he is bonjwa, Lee Jae Dong!!!" ?
I just don't get it.
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Flash is Bonjwa, but I don't know about JD.
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I love how people comment "Jaedong is/isn't a bonjwa" without reading the damn article. Very well written and definitely a very logical way of showing that he should be considered a bonjwa.
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After my little rant before, nevertheless I have to say that this is a very beautiful article and you present a very good case. I love to read about all the awesome things Jaedong has done, I just have no interest in the label itself.
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When some people say that Jaedong is a bonjwa and other say Flash is (with their teams' logo in the signature), it is clear that none of them are, because no one has dominated the other for a lengthy period of time. Sorry guys.
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