Hive tech if you are winning? Hive tech zerg is what makes them win
-____- I mean just lair tech (hydra/lurk mostly) isn't ALL that hard (to overcome). But when you have 3-3 crack and 3-5 ultra together with left over lurk hyd and some guards then you are really going to own (assuming u have a sufficent eco).

Regards FrozenArbiter

ilnp

Iceland1330 Posts

February 14 2003 12:49 GMT

#24

if you think a race is best, then play it. that's fucking all. no one is twisting your arm to play protoss or zerg or terran, and without you (not that you added to the pool) each race will still have dozens of fantastically skilled representatives who can play every matchup in spite of shit.

i mean maybe ief you slowed barracks build time down by 10 seconds.. that would be ok

or maybe tweaked with toss air a little bit (As the scout has more or less no use?)

but ultimately i love bw the way it is and i wouldnt want any changes to fuck with the game :-(

RedMeat

United Kingdom490 Posts

February 14 2003 12:54 GMT

#25

Yeah sure it makes them win but I meant you need to have a lot of resources coming in to go hive tech (at least two expos but ideally three or more). Essentially hive tech is just how you use your resource advantage rather than just using it to pump out the same units you use your extra money to tech. After all you wouldn't go hive tech if you didn't feel you were getting enough money/gas in to pump the units after you upgrade the lair. Maybe other people would go hive tech without three expansions but I don't like getting one expo dropped and finding I don't have the gas for hive units when it comes to actually building them

. Maybe I'm just wrong tho'

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

February 14 2003 12:57 GMT

#26

Best hive unit vs P= superling^________________^ AH 400 ZERGLING GIGI!
;D not really, but cracklings really do own

Regards FrozenArbiter

C)R

Canada549 Posts

February 14 2003 13:29 GMT

#27

On February 14 2003 19:31 HovZ wrote:
intothedrain just because u lack the ability to play broodwar at a skilled level doesnt mean terran is too strong

HovZ you're an ass

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

February 14 2003 14:18 GMT

#28

I'm not playing the race that I think is best, I'm playing the race THAT I THINK I'M BEST WITH (and is more fun on top of that

).

Protoss is too weak vs Zerg, period. You can ask any 'top' Protoss or Zerg player about this and 90% of them will agree.

Every other imbalance is created by the maps that are used in tournaments.

Pomozite

Croatia647 Posts

February 14 2003 14:58 GMT

#29

Best Croatian zerg user Corwin.Z told me that Toss is too weak vs zerg and that toss should be little stronger.

mindspike

Canada1902 Posts

February 14 2003 15:35 GMT

#30

Also, to the people saying dont whine.

A patch can do more than just balance, it can also make the game more fun.

ObsoleteLogic

United States3676 Posts

February 14 2003 17:51 GMT

#31

I just think Toss ought to use Dark Archons more often. Maelstrom is very powerful (: And to the guy who thought queens weren't useful... ever even heard of ensnare? =\ Thats effective taking the micro right out of Marines. If you drop an expo and there are two lurks there, typical strat is stim, hit till burrowed, and then run away, yes? Ever seen how slow ensared rines are, even stimmed? :o Its as if they weren't stimmed at all. And that is huge zvt :o

IntoTheDrain

Australia46 Posts

February 14 2003 18:20 GMT

#32

On February 14 2003 19:31 HovZ wrote:
intothedrain just because u lack the ability to play broodwar at a skilled level doesnt mean terran is too strong

You don't even know me. And for those saying stfu, stop whinging and switch to the strongest race, that's not the point, I want the game more balanced.
Turrets too cheap and strong, tanks too strong, spider mines too much value for $$, marine medics owning lings,hydras,mutas etc the list goes on.

Yeah call me a whinger but i believe i can say what i think on a forum like this.

OrangeTerran

United States963 Posts

February 14 2003 18:23 GMT

#33

races are as balanced as possible. if you think a match up is imbalace, it's the map or the player

Tien

Russian Federation4447 Posts

February 14 2003 18:46 GMT

#34

Sometimes I feel that ZvT is unfair because of meds/tanks. But when I look at pvz, sometimes I feel they dont have a chance during certain games. Lurk contain is one of them. If they were able to get the storm to kill it in one shot it would be enough to balance the game I feel. Blizzard could lower the lurk health and raise the armor or something.

But doing changes are far too complicated nowadays. Just please dont make storm any stronger, zerg players already have a hard time dealing with it.

cava

United States1035 Posts

February 14 2003 19:06 GMT

#35

i find it impossible as toss to beat any decent zerg user

[GiTM]-Ace

United States4935 Posts

February 14 2003 19:07 GMT

#36

Storm is hack if that gets stronger ppl will High Templar rush just for storm 1 lot 6 temps. GOsu micro baby

Pomozite

Croatia647 Posts

February 14 2003 19:37 GMT

#37

On February 15 2003 02:51 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
I just think Toss ought to use Dark Archons more often.

DA are too expensive and it takes too much time and money to research maelstrom or mind control. If they were usefull gosus would use them. I tryied them few times, but thay suck. They require micro and in late game it is much better to storm well than use that red shit.

DV8

United States1623 Posts

February 14 2003 21:17 GMT

#38

So intothedrain, play terran and you might discover some weaknesses you never knew existed, or just maybe you'll discover how bad you really are!

HovZ

United States1917 Posts

February 14 2003 21:21 GMT

#39

ya turrets should be 200 so that we cripple ourselfs in the process of preventing dt or reav harass, and mines shoud be toned down to 25 damage so as to make zeals more useful, and who needs medics, vanilla marines stop hydr lurk just fine, and whoever invented seige mode for tanks was definatly on drugs