EPTThey need him to unslump so he can be worth the $$ they are paying him =x.. I mean, he was losing left and right in Proleague too, its not like he only slumped in Starleagues.
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
They need him to unslump so he can be worth the $$ they are paying him =x.. I mean, he was losing left and right in Proleague too, its not like he only slumped in Starleagues. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On April 24 2011 09:24 bearbuddy wrote: Wow, way to dichotomize every situation. That us-vs-them paradigm that is being employed has brought so much hatred. Relying on generalizations to make arguments instead of looking at each situation with regards to its specific attributes. For information, Zerg got hardly any support during their graveyard winners league season this year - yet people were cheering for KT and SKT as always.Cause TL is strongly zerg biased. Flash is the lol-turtle terran who took massive heat in the 2009-2010 season because he keeps failing out of individual leagues while he carried KT (to the point that there was a time period when some people think Fantasy might become a better player than Flash). Bisu is the lol-easy toss who hasn't had any decent run in an individual league. Jaedong is the destroyer. Yup. Not a lol-cheesy 2-hatch zerg. I don't think it has anything anymore with Savior, since most Savior fans have pretty much left the scene. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
He's merely complaining that he was not given sufficient time to focus on individual league. January and Lee had past records of giving Flash/Stork time off from SPL to practice for individual leagues. The group of Death is more difficult than most semi-finals, yet Bisu received no additional support from his coach. SKT had a match right after Group D. Compartively, Jaedong's team was eliminated early. Flash's team finished #1 and had plenty of rest and practice time prior to the WL final. Sea's team had nothing to do once WL playoff started. Comparatively, Bisu's schedule was on the wrong end of the fork. | ||
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chisuri
Vietnam789 Posts
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Pistoche
Canada127 Posts
On April 25 2011 04:12 chisuri wrote: Just compare Bisu and JD's performances after MSL. Bisu won his game, twice. JD lost hist game. And guess who was apparently more prepared in MSL before? Yes, ACE players, big accomplishment there... | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On April 25 2011 04:12 chisuri wrote: Just compare Bisu and JD's performances after MSL. Bisu won his game, twice. JD lost hist game. And guess who was apparently more prepared in MSL before? ZvZ where jaedong decided he wanted to take a gamble and got really unlucky? okay. | ||
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
Now did you see JD's game last night? | ||
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BreakerD
United States159 Posts
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night terrors
China1284 Posts
On April 25 2011 05:09 BreakerD wrote: I think bisu is making up excuses. We all know his pvt is baddddddddddd. Everyone knows bisu has bad decision making when he plays pvt. Seriously game 1 he went carriers and we all know how bad his carrier play is. He barely won he last game with carriers. He seriously needs to use templar in my opinion and quit going carrier play. And of course SPL is more important to the coach, their job depends on the results and its a team effort. Out of his last 25 games versus terran bisu has won 19 of them. Out of those six losses you know how many came from someone other than flash? 3. Thats a 76% winrate. 88% if you exclude games against Flash. Yeah, he's terrible. Edit: Just for fun, out of his last 25 pvp's, he's won 15. 10 of his losses came from an in form stork and kal. Thats a 60% winrate. Double edit: Out of his last 25 games against Toss, Flash has won 19 of them. That, too, is a 76% winrate. | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On April 25 2011 05:09 BreakerD wrote: I think bisu is making up excuses. We all know his pvt is baddddddddddd. Everyone knows bisu has bad decision making when he plays pvt. Seriously game 1 he went carriers and we all know how bad his carrier play is. He barely won he last game with carriers. He seriously needs to use templar in my opinion and quit going carrier play. And of course SPL is more important to the coach, their job depends on the results and its a team effort. Not all, at least not me, and the guy above me dont seem to agree either.. Whose PvT is not baddddddd then?.. I s'pose you can make a case for Stork, but even Dinotoss himself is not having as good a vT season as Bisu's, statistically.. Specific numbers are already provided by the poster above me.. Seriously many new viewers are just dumping the "badddddd PvT" label on Bisu just because a number of others say so.. While i understand that his decision-making can be questionable at times, especially when you compare it with his vZ, Bisu's PvT is still very solid and powerful, and one of the best we have. Edit: Some extra statistics: Even counting his recent 2 losses vs Flash in MSL, Bisu's vT win-rate this season is 77.27%.. Thats higher than Flash's vP, vZ, as well as ALL of Stork's and Jaedong's MU. | ||
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cosiant
Canada616 Posts
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FetusFondler
United States246 Posts
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Kal_rA1
160 Posts
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
Lol, that fool is the reason I play SC He is the reason I want to teach English in SK and he is the reason I play Protoss Kim Taek Yong hwaiting! | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On April 25 2011 08:39 TheGlassface wrote: Not support him? Lol, that fool is the reason I play SC He is the reason I want to teach English in SK and he is the reason I play Protoss Kim Taek Yong hwaiting! Me too, he is the sole reason that I play SC at all. If SKT doesn't satisfy what he need, I will bash them and curse them and boycott them until he get what he want. Bisu >>>>>> SKT | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
bisu is good but hes not preforming as good as before, maybe next osl he'll strike back (yes he wins a lot blabla but he hasnt been that solid at individual leagues for a while now) | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
Yes Bisu's PvT is historically weaker then the other two match ups, but currently at the start of this year, his PvT is better then his PvP. His BvZ hasn't changed one bit. So unless she starts losing his vT randomly, stop spewing the "Bisu can't vT" stuff here. Everyone loses to Flash, just because out of his current 6 vT loses, 3 of from Flash, doesn't mean he can't play in the match up. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
So unless he's saying he needed to learn the maps so he could make cheeses or something then it does seem to be a bit of an excuse to me. I didn't seem their first game but i heard he found a proxy rax then failed to capitalize on his advantage. On the 2nd game he failed to respond to 1 rax CC. Both of these games would have played out the same on FS or any other standard map. I'm sure playing on a map repeatedly does help regardless but still, practice is practice. | ||
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renzy
Canada781 Posts
On April 25 2011 10:58 infinity2k9 wrote: If he's practicing PvT for SWL it's still practice. Does he really need to heavily practice on the MSL maps to apply his skills on them? PvT doesn't particularly seem like a matchup where you need to do that... Dante's Peak for example is a pretty standardish map. His mistakes were just basic like not responding to a 1 Rax CC correctly, which he had a perfect counter for in SWL. Flash just macro'd off 3 bases and won, Bisu couldn't stop it. So unless he's saying he needed to learn the maps so he could make cheeses or something then it does seem to be a bit of an excuse to me. I didn't seem their first game but i heard he found a proxy rax then failed to capitalize on his advantage. On the 2nd game he failed to respond to 1 rax CC. Both of these games would have played out the same on FS or any other standard map. I'm sure playing on a map repeatedly does help regardless but still, practice is practice. Have you been following PvTs this year? Bisu's response was the standard, used by Stork and others. 3 goon expand, robotics, then fast third when the natural is done. Except, on Dante's Peak, Bisu's pylon wall didn't really block the vultures, which raped all of Bisu's probes at his third, meaning...he didn't have a third. Thats what lost him the game, and it does have to do with map, cuz he couldn't make proper pylon walls on Dante's Peak to save his life. =.= | ||
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