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World Cyber Games to officially retire StarCraft 1 - Page 14

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By.Fantasy
Profile Joined February 2011
Thailand123 Posts
March 07 2011 07:53 GMT
#261
On March 07 2011 16:41 aMaJinG wrote:
Jaedong... Flash... wake up! one of you lead the charge and get your gosu asses over to starcraft 2.

Time to get some premier BW talent over to the SC2 scene!


If SC:BW dies I "bet" that they will just go retire.. xD
My english is not very good.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
March 07 2011 07:58 GMT
#262
On March 07 2011 15:58 onewingedmoogle wrote:
well looks like theres no reason for me to watch wcg anymore


WC3 games are pretty interesting to watch.

But man, I'm gonna miss WCG BW. :/
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
March 07 2011 08:04 GMT
#263
Foreign BW is officially dead, not BW in general. SC2 in Korea is unsustainable, even with the huge prize pools there's no top BW players that have switched to SC2, viewership is lower than BW's as evidenced by the finals being mostly empty, etc. With NASL and MLG coming up to distract foreign audiences I don't see the GSL lasting too much longer.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
March 07 2011 08:07 GMT
#264
World Cyber Games is just an advertisement stunt, most fail I've ever seen. Bunch of retards greedy for money all that is.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
March 07 2011 08:08 GMT
#265
Here's to another 10 years of Korean dominance in SC2.
$♥$
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
March 07 2011 08:10 GMT
#266
Logical choice, Foreigner BW can't/doesn't/won't compete with Korean BW at all nowadays.
/commercial
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
March 07 2011 08:14 GMT
#267
I don't know why people even associate failgame2 to Starcraft:Brood War, Just because they have the same name and Blizzard calls it a sequal doesn't mean they should be associated. Shoulda been called Warcraft in Space. Also I love how so many failgame2 fans post here saying BW IS DEAD!! MOVE TO SC2!!! We don't spam ur shit. And for the reccord, Brood War has always been a mostly Korean E-Sport, so even if the Internationnal Brood War fails, Brood War lives on. Only people who transfer from Brood War to SC2 are a) Lazy b) Bad c) Going for the cash(and not quality of the game).
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
March 07 2011 08:16 GMT
#268
Why are people saying the end of BW is the end of competitive Starcraft as a whole? By the time BW becomes less profitable for Korean pro-gamers in Korea, I suspect SC2 will have been patched and established globally to warrant a transfer of at least a significant portion of old pros. Not to mention new pro-gamers will skip BW and cut their teeth on SC2.

In terms of viewership, I would expect the viewership in Korea to be lower for SC2 then BW since one has been out for less then a year and the other has had years upon years to refine and establish themselves. But even barring that fact, viewers cant follow both at the exact same time, so attention will likely be split anyway.

I suspect some Korean pros will retire/go to army, but many will also transfer over since all their hard work in BW will pay off still in SC2 with their pure mechanical skills. Especially since now they have an entire world of leagues to play in with a disproportionate amount of raw talent in their favor. Fish in a barrel for some time to come.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 07 2011 08:17 GMT
#269
All the comments saying this is a good thing make me very, very sad.
Hello
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
March 07 2011 08:17 GMT
#270
On March 07 2011 17:14 Eywa- wrote:
I don't know why people even associate failgame2 to Starcraft:Brood War, Just because they have the same name and Blizzard calls it a sequal doesn't mean they should be associated. Shoulda been called Warcraft in Space. Also I love how so many failgame2 fans post here saying BW IS DEAD!! MOVE TO SC2!!! We don't spam ur shit. And for the reccord, Brood War has always been a mostly Korean E-Sport, so even if the Internationnal Brood War fails, Brood War lives on. Only people who transfer from Brood War to SC2 are a) Lazy b) Bad c) Going for the cash(and not quality of the game).


You just flame-baiting this thread...
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 07 2011 08:21 GMT
#271
On March 07 2011 16:41 aMaJinG wrote:
Jaedong... Flash... wake up! one of you lead the charge and get your gosu asses over to starcraft 2.

Time to get some premier BW talent over to the SC2 scene!

If that were to happen it would be a very, VERY sad day.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 07 2011 08:21 GMT
#272
It was bound to happen at some point, sad news still :-/
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
March 07 2011 08:22 GMT
#273
It had to happen, good things get replaced, like how Cata replaced WoW Vanilla and such.

Shame that they won't be able to bring Starcraft to foreign stages through WCG anymore, but it being done through OGN like Korean Air OSL S2 Final in China is possible.

It's okay, BW remains top quality in its current form.

The question now is... how long will Starcraft 2 last? With IEM, MLG, GSL, and upcoming NASL, who's going to bother? What kind of incentive do they have for gamers to practice for it over the aforementioned tournaments? Will it be what BlizzCon was for BW? This will be interesting, cause honestly right now SC2 is swamped with tournaments everywhere.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
March 07 2011 08:22 GMT
#274
On March 07 2011 17:14 Eywa- wrote:
I don't know why people even associate failgame2 to Starcraft:Brood War, Just because they have the same name and Blizzard calls it a sequal doesn't mean they should be associated. Shoulda been called Warcraft in Space. Also I love how so many failgame2 fans post here saying BW IS DEAD!! MOVE TO SC2!!! We don't spam ur shit. And for the reccord, Brood War has always been a mostly Korean E-Sport, so even if the Internationnal Brood War fails, Brood War lives on. Only people who transfer from Brood War to SC2 are a) Lazy b) Bad c) Going for the cash(and not quality of the game).


I'm probably feeding this troll but,shitting on more than half of TL's population by calling SC2 failgame will get you banned.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
March 07 2011 08:23 GMT
#275
What else were they really meant to do? Top foreigners just don't play BW anymore, and it wouldn't make sense for them to either.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
March 07 2011 08:24 GMT
#276
On March 07 2011 17:17 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 17:14 Eywa- wrote:
I don't know why people even associate failgame2 to Starcraft:Brood War, Just because they have the same name and Blizzard calls it a sequal doesn't mean they should be associated. Shoulda been called Warcraft in Space. Also I love how so many failgame2 fans post here saying BW IS DEAD!! MOVE TO SC2!!! We don't spam ur shit. And for the reccord, Brood War has always been a mostly Korean E-Sport, so even if the Internationnal Brood War fails, Brood War lives on. Only people who transfer from Brood War to SC2 are a) Lazy b) Bad c) Going for the cash(and not quality of the game).


You just flame-baiting this thread...


I'm flame-baiting this thread? Fuck that. SC2 players comming here saying ppl should abandon BW blah blah blah, they're the ones failbaiting this thread.

I'm just saying it how it is, this is in the Brood War forum, if they don't want to read, they can simply go back to their fucking forums.

Every thread I see in the BW section is spammed by them faggots going "YAY WE WANT BW TO DIE".
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
March 07 2011 08:26 GMT
#277
On March 07 2011 17:24 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 17:17 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On March 07 2011 17:14 Eywa- wrote:
I don't know why people even associate failgame2 to Starcraft:Brood War, Just because they have the same name and Blizzard calls it a sequal doesn't mean they should be associated. Shoulda been called Warcraft in Space. Also I love how so many failgame2 fans post here saying BW IS DEAD!! MOVE TO SC2!!! We don't spam ur shit. And for the reccord, Brood War has always been a mostly Korean E-Sport, so even if the Internationnal Brood War fails, Brood War lives on. Only people who transfer from Brood War to SC2 are a) Lazy b) Bad c) Going for the cash(and not quality of the game).


You just flame-baiting this thread...


I'm flame-baiting this thread? Fuck that. SC2 players comming here saying ppl should abandon BW blah blah blah, they're the ones failbaiting this thread.

I'm just saying it how it is, this is in the Brood War forum, if they don't want to read, they can simply go back to their fucking forums.

Every thread I see in the BW section is spammed by them faggots going "YAY WE WANT BW TO DIE".



It is also in the Community News, so therefore, it's not us SC2 fans flaming BW players. Most of the TL.net community does read the Community News section.
Stick a fork in those buns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50607 Posts
March 07 2011 08:26 GMT
#278
On March 07 2011 17:24 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 17:17 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On March 07 2011 17:14 Eywa- wrote:
I don't know why people even associate failgame2 to Starcraft:Brood War, Just because they have the same name and Blizzard calls it a sequal doesn't mean they should be associated. Shoulda been called Warcraft in Space. Also I love how so many failgame2 fans post here saying BW IS DEAD!! MOVE TO SC2!!! We don't spam ur shit. And for the reccord, Brood War has always been a mostly Korean E-Sport, so even if the Internationnal Brood War fails, Brood War lives on. Only people who transfer from Brood War to SC2 are a) Lazy b) Bad c) Going for the cash(and not quality of the game).


You just flame-baiting this thread...


I'm flame-baiting this thread? Fuck that. SC2 players comming here saying ppl should abandon BW blah blah blah, they're the ones failbaiting this thread.

I'm just saying it how it is, this is in the Brood War forum, if they don't want to read, they can simply go back to their fucking forums.

Every thread I see in the BW section is spammed by them faggots going "YAY WE WANT BW TO DIE".


take a chill pill,and this thread is on the TL community forum too not just the BW forum,because it involves both games.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 07 2011 08:26 GMT
#279
On March 07 2011 17:16 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Why are people saying the end of BW is the end of competitive Starcraft as a whole? By the time BW becomes less profitable for Korean pro-gamers in Korea, I suspect SC2 will have been patched and established globally to warrant a transfer of at least a significant portion of old pros. Not to mention new pro-gamers will skip BW and cut their teeth on SC2.

In terms of viewership, I would expect the viewership in Korea to be lower for SC2 then BW since one has been out for less then a year and the other has had years upon years to refine and establish themselves. But even barring that fact, viewers cant follow both at the exact same time, so attention will likely be split anyway.

I suspect some Korean pros will retire/go to army, but many will also transfer over since all their hard work in BW will pay off still in SC2 with their pure mechanical skills. Especially since now they have an entire world of leagues to play in with a disproportionate amount of raw talent in their favor. Fish in a barrel for some time to come.

So tired of this kind of "logic".
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
March 07 2011 08:27 GMT
#280
I guess there's no longer any reason for me to keep watching WCG
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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