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World Cyber Games to officially retire StarCraft 1 - Page 12

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undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
March 07 2011 06:29 GMT
#221
This is sad.

StarCraft 2 truly is an amazing game, but this is still sad.
Rise Up!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 07 2011 06:30 GMT
#222
On March 07 2011 15:26 hazz. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 15:23 LumberJack wrote:
On March 07 2011 11:49 HKriceboy88 wrote:
I'm sad, but i guess this was bound to happen one day. No more auto 1,2,3 finishes for Korea. =[


... what was the IEM finishes again?

What were the Dreamhack finishes again?

what were the last 2 GSl finishes again

1 korean playing godly this season
2. korean who scrubbed the finals
3. jinro
4. korean who didn't deserve to get this far and got wrecked in semis
Mike941
Profile Joined December 2008
United States98 Posts
March 07 2011 06:32 GMT
#223
Hell. It's about time. Only one countries cared about that game for the last 6 years. Glad to see they've finally realized that and got rid of it.
hazz.
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 06:35:42
March 07 2011 06:34 GMT
#224
On March 07 2011 15:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 15:26 hazz. wrote:
On March 07 2011 15:23 LumberJack wrote:
On March 07 2011 11:49 HKriceboy88 wrote:
I'm sad, but i guess this was bound to happen one day. No more auto 1,2,3 finishes for Korea. =[


... what was the IEM finishes again?

What were the Dreamhack finishes again?

what were the last 2 GSl finishes again

1 korean playing godly this season
2. korean who scrubbed the finals
3. jinro
4. korean who didn't deserve to get this far and got wrecked in semis

and how many Koreans are there in GSL compared to foreigners?
Koreans arent unbeatable in sc2, for some reason people seem to be implying they are untouchable like they were in BW
Jaedong | FlaSh | Bisu | IdrA | Tyler | Ret | mOOnGLaDe | Jinro | White-Ra | DeMusliM
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 07 2011 06:36 GMT
#225
Gonna miss WCG korea, allways good games at that thing
In the woods, there lurks..
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 07 2011 06:37 GMT
#226
Completly makes sense. I mean Starcraft is awesome and all, but the foreign scene is getting smaller and smaller and in the meanwhile Starcraft 2 and other games are getting bigger and bigger.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
March 07 2011 06:39 GMT
#227
Lmao old games dies internationally because world can't compete with koreans, subsquently game pulled from WCG. "Esports" outside of Korea is a joke.
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORS. LoL is the KING of ESPORTS
Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
March 07 2011 06:40 GMT
#228
Aw... I was kinda hoping they'd give it one more year, for old times' sake at least! Announcing "this is the last year of sc1" woulda been classier imo...
Retired SchiSm[LighT]
Godstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania845 Posts
March 07 2011 06:41 GMT
#229
Koreans are better than foreigners currently so i fully expect WCG to be won by a Korean and probably second place. There's no reason to argue, all foreign players that went on the Korean server admitted the top of the Korean scene is a little better than the top of the foreign scene, one of the reasons is the fact that the Korean scene has a larger talent pool since they have a lot of good players and ofc, the practice regime(although there are some really dedicated foreign players, the way the Koreans practice appears to be the most effective).
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"-Day 9
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 07 2011 06:42 GMT
#230
This makes sense. Outside of Proleague, there's just no BW going on around the world.

But still...this really really sucks. ):
Hello
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
March 07 2011 06:48 GMT
#231
ah well it's not completely unexpected.

anyway, how do foreigners rank in sc2? i imagine it'll definitely be closer in terms of skill, but can we expect to see a foreigner win the WCG with sc2? or is it going to be like 1st 2nd 3rd korea again? i think i read jinro is pretty good.. i have no clue with sc2 haha maybe i should try watching it again
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
March 07 2011 06:49 GMT
#232
I wonder when will they shut down Porleague
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
March 07 2011 06:52 GMT
#233
sooo, no more Flash, Jaedong blah blah blah in WCG eh? sad news.
yoyo!
a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
March 07 2011 06:54 GMT
#234
this is retarded.. what does it matter if many foreigners don't play bw anymore??
the game still has plenty of fans, including foreigners, outside of south korea.
who cares if a korean will win wcg again? or that many foreigners don't play bw anymore??
the foreigner fan database for bw is still huge! almost all of us on this site are foreigners.. how can you say this makes sense?? even if there aren't "many" foreigners competing in wcg bw, many of the spectators at wcg will still comprise of foreigners..
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 07 2011 06:57 GMT
#235
On March 07 2011 15:54 a7choi wrote:
this is retarded.. what does it matter if many foreigners don't play bw anymore??
the game still has plenty of fans, including foreigners, outside of south korea.
who cares if a korean will win wcg again? or that many foreigners don't play bw anymore??
the foreigner fan database for bw is still huge! almost all of us on this site are foreigners.. how can you say this makes sense?? even if there aren't "many" foreigners competing in wcg bw, many of the spectators at wcg will still comprise of foreigners..


The analogy on the previous page was good-ish although modified a bit.... It would be pretty similar to putting American Football in the Olympics. Nobody actually plays it outside of USA, competitively... Given that WCG is the Olympics of gaming, it doesn't really make sense to have a game there which can only be competitive for Korean players. For those saying that SC2 is still Korean dominated, it is, but at least it has foreigners competing at the top level (Jinro, Idra, HuK, etc.) as opposed to BW nowadays.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
March 07 2011 06:58 GMT
#236
well looks like theres no reason for me to watch wcg anymore
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
March 07 2011 06:59 GMT
#237
On March 07 2011 11:44 lisherwin wrote:
what


lol you beat me to it. That was my exact response to such a message.

What the fuck... I don't hate Starcraft 2, but it makes me kind of mad that Brood War is dying faster and faster in the non Korean community. I think eventually I will be forced to play only Starcraft 2, but my heart is still with Brood War.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 07:04:42
March 07 2011 06:59 GMT
#238
On March 07 2011 15:48 imperfect wrote:
ah well it's not completely unexpected.

anyway, how do foreigners rank in sc2? i imagine it'll definitely be closer in terms of skill, but can we expect to see a foreigner win the WCG with sc2? or is it going to be like 1st 2nd 3rd korea again? i think i read jinro is pretty good.. i have no clue with sc2 haha maybe i should try watching it again



My opinion though pretty agreed upon (until protoss)

Best of Terran:
1. IM_MVP (korean)
2. PRIME_MKP (korean)LIQUID_Jinro(swedish)
3. ST_Bomber (korean)

Best of Zerg:
1. IM_Nestea (korean)
2. EG_Idra(american) ZENEX_Kyrix(korean) ST_July(God of War)

Best of Protoss:
1. OGS_MC(korean)
2. ST_Squirtle(korean)
3. ZENITH_San(korean)LIQUID_Huk (Canadian)

note; sanzenith ONLY based on this gsl, he would be listed in possibly one of the worst pro gamers ever pre this GSL.

and thats solely based on the GSL, liquid tyler could definitely compete with them, similarly Whitera(when he is practicing) alot of Mouzsports, and machine (until he runs into incontrol as is inevitable in every event ever)

EDIT: a huge advantage foreigners have is the korean players are super stylistic. very few are very adaptable and have a ton of strategies, those that DO, tend to be weaker at everything than those who are stylistic.

MKP uses bio better than everyone, but it's all he can really do amazingly. MVP is good at pretty much everything but has a limited number of openers. Kyrix and july are both best when hyper agressive. MC has his typical 2 base play he is best at and then his skill drops off a bit (except 4 gate vs P). Nestea has two paths he can take that both end the same tech tree, and thats all he has.

meanwhile the foreigners have a bunch of different strategies (except IdrA) and can perform them pretty much all very well. making it harder to prepare for them than for the koreans.
R1cE
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States59 Posts
March 07 2011 07:02 GMT
#239
kind of sad to see BW die.........but hey lets look into the future of SC2!!!
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
March 07 2011 07:10 GMT
#240
On March 07 2011 12:12 G3nXsiS wrote:
Good choice from WCG. I have said this before and will say it again. BW is past its prime, it needs to die and make way for starcraft 2.


Blasphemy! Without scbw, there is no sc2 existing today. Kids these days...
Not including scbw in WCG is logical, since foreigners cant compete with them, but saying it needs to die is stupid and wrong.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
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