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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 08:58:59
April 03 2011 08:55 GMT
#701
On April 03 2011 16:16 JiMMyUriNE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 12:46 kagemucha wrote:
On March 07 2011 11:56 Antoine wrote:
On one hand, WCG is going to be a huge loss - it delivered awesome games every year, just last year looking at FvJ on Grand Line and Tau Cross those were 2 of the best games in all of 2010. On the other hand, the foreign scene is getting pretty weak. I'm also interested about a possible future return if bw rebounds abroad, is there any precedent in wcg for a game going away but coming back later?

Counter Strike 1.6->CS:S->CS 1.6.

It can happen if SC2 dies out.


CS:S did not have an ever growing community and tournaments nor the spectator appeal. It's comparable but not at the same time.
I dont think spectator appeal has much of anything to do with the success of an esport(lets be honest here, 5 guys camping for a couple of minutes and 5 seconds of culminating firefight with 0 movement is not particularly appealing, and that is what cs has been all about since the removal of bunny hopping and accuracy during movement). It all seems to be about enjoyment of play, hence the easier to play&low learning curve shooters being so successful at it, with all the swaths of "tactical" shooter games being on of tourneys
Aah thats the stuff..
DizzyDrone
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 11:26:19
April 03 2011 11:22 GMT
#702
On April 03 2011 15:44 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 07:00 Lard wrote:
WCG can use SC2 and everyone play on the BW mod ftw.


That wouldn't, unfortunately, make it BW. One of the things about BW is its engine, and various tricks and micro techniques it results in.


As far as I know the BW mod simulates the behaviour of the engine though, including even the awesome dragoon ai and muta stacking.

That said, this seems like a logical choice for them. They will be very hard pressed to find any foreigners that can compete with the Korean pros at this point.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 11:48:40
April 03 2011 11:47 GMT
#703
You don't know enough. The whole engine and AI are completly different.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-03 13:41:10
April 03 2011 13:40 GMT
#704
Why did u kill best spectator game ever ? for a lesser game with better market ? bahh... I really hope Blizzard prepare an awesome expansion for SC2.
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
JiMMyUriNE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States49 Posts
April 09 2011 12:14 GMT
#705
On April 03 2011 17:55 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 16:16 JiMMyUriNE wrote:
On March 07 2011 12:46 kagemucha wrote:
On March 07 2011 11:56 Antoine wrote:
On one hand, WCG is going to be a huge loss - it delivered awesome games every year, just last year looking at FvJ on Grand Line and Tau Cross those were 2 of the best games in all of 2010. On the other hand, the foreign scene is getting pretty weak. I'm also interested about a possible future return if bw rebounds abroad, is there any precedent in wcg for a game going away but coming back later?

Counter Strike 1.6->CS:S->CS 1.6.

It can happen if SC2 dies out.


CS:S did not have an ever growing community and tournaments nor the spectator appeal. It's comparable but not at the same time.
I dont think spectator appeal has much of anything to do with the success of an esport(lets be honest here, 5 guys camping for a couple of minutes and 5 seconds of culminating firefight with 0 movement is not particularly appealing, and that is what cs has been all about since the removal of bunny hopping and accuracy during movement). It all seems to be about enjoyment of play, hence the easier to play&low learning curve shooters being so successful at it, with all the swaths of "tactical" shooter games being on of tourneys


Late response, but you know nothing of counter strike lol. Why would people sponsor tournaments if people will not watch/attend, a game with no spectators will never be apart of esports.
Ethic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada439 Posts
April 09 2011 13:10 GMT
#706
This entire thread disgusts me.

User was warned for this post
SC2 ID: Ethic.791 - 1v1 DIAMOND - SHILOH UPSILON
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
April 09 2011 13:57 GMT
#707
On April 09 2011 21:14 JiMMyUriNE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 17:55 xarthaz wrote:
On April 03 2011 16:16 JiMMyUriNE wrote:
On March 07 2011 12:46 kagemucha wrote:
On March 07 2011 11:56 Antoine wrote:
On one hand, WCG is going to be a huge loss - it delivered awesome games every year, just last year looking at FvJ on Grand Line and Tau Cross those were 2 of the best games in all of 2010. On the other hand, the foreign scene is getting pretty weak. I'm also interested about a possible future return if bw rebounds abroad, is there any precedent in wcg for a game going away but coming back later?

Counter Strike 1.6->CS:S->CS 1.6.

It can happen if SC2 dies out.


CS:S did not have an ever growing community and tournaments nor the spectator appeal. It's comparable but not at the same time.
I dont think spectator appeal has much of anything to do with the success of an esport(lets be honest here, 5 guys camping for a couple of minutes and 5 seconds of culminating firefight with 0 movement is not particularly appealing, and that is what cs has been all about since the removal of bunny hopping and accuracy during movement). It all seems to be about enjoyment of play, hence the easier to play&low learning curve shooters being so successful at it, with all the swaths of "tactical" shooter games being on of tourneys


Late response, but you know nothing of counter strike lol. Why would people sponsor tournaments if people will not watch/attend, a game with no spectators will never be apart of esports.

The spectator value in that context is reflection of the game in the context of the time the spectators themselves have spent playing it. That is, the spectator value is directed toward gamers themselves. Being appealing to those outside the games circle is something i think only brood war has achieved (in korea) if even that.
Aah thats the stuff..
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2502 Posts
June 01 2011 17:51 GMT
#708


User was warned for this post
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
June 01 2011 17:53 GMT
#709
why the bump? is it wcg time?
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-01 17:54:53
June 01 2011 17:54 GMT
#710
BW WCG is all but memories now.
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
June 01 2011 18:11 GMT
#711
On June 02 2011 02:54 ICanFlyLow wrote:
BW WCG is all but memories now.

Fuck thats so sad
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