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tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 06:11 GMT
#1961
What page is my guide on? That'll be a fun nostalgic read lol.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
July 12 2020 08:36 GMT
#1962
i am not going to go back again, but i do have the PDF if you'd like it.

can you describe the Battle system as best as you remember it?
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
UnnamedSG
Profile Joined March 2015
Australia8 Posts
July 12 2020 09:00 GMT
#1963
If I remember, certain stats were assigned to certain matchups, i dont remember the stats names but for example, map knowledge and macro would be key for terran vs terran, whilst micro and build order would be key for protoss vs terran, if memory serves, the game would tally up the stats for each player and then roll some kinda dice with the better player having a better chance of winning. then again i have never seen the code and this is memory from like 2012.
I can haz shakuras back?
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 15:53:07
July 12 2020 15:49 GMT
#1964
is the salary a per week or per month number? at 5k starting and 3k+bonus per week, 9 players (looking at average salary in the players table i have from excel file) would make money very tight and it'd be hard to save (if it is per week)
edit:nvm, taking the actual average it's only 222, so per week is fine. got it.

new question
"Your player will be able to gain an experience after playing 11
games." from tslStrange guide...does this mean first 11 OFFICIAL games give no EXP?
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 16:22 GMT
#1965
On July 13 2020 00:49 nath wrote:
is the salary a per week or per month number? at 5k starting and 3k+bonus per week, 9 players (looking at average salary in the players table i have from excel file) would make money very tight and it'd be hard to save (if it is per week)
edit:nvm, taking the actual average it's only 222, so per week is fine. got it.

new question
"Your player will be able to gain an experience after playing 11
games." from tslStrange guide...does this mean first 11 OFFICIAL games give no EXP?


I believe your player started with 0 experience and after 11 games he would gain 1 experience. But really TheOnly92 was always vague with exactly how things worked. And my guide was written before he shared the files (I think).

Now thinking back on the game what it absolutely needed most was a player retirement system. People who played the game from the beginning had a big advantage that never dissipates over time because players lasted indefinitely.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
July 12 2020 19:13 GMT
#1966
On July 13 2020 01:22 tslStrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 00:49 nath wrote:
is the salary a per week or per month number? at 5k starting and 3k+bonus per week, 9 players (looking at average salary in the players table i have from excel file) would make money very tight and it'd be hard to save (if it is per week)
edit:nvm, taking the actual average it's only 222, so per week is fine. got it.

new question
"Your player will be able to gain an experience after playing 11
games." from tslStrange guide...does this mean first 11 OFFICIAL games give no EXP?


I believe your player started with 0 experience and after 11 games he would gain 1 experience. But really TheOnly92 was always vague with exactly how things worked. And my guide was written before he shared the files (I think).

Now thinking back on the game what it absolutely needed most was a player retirement system. People who played the game from the beginning had a big advantage that never dissipates over time because players lasted indefinitely.

That is weird to me. I think im just going to have any official match give experience and scale the number in the database to match the Excel file so I can try to recreate some of the calclulations as a starting point.

Yeah I'm thinking "military service" starts at the same age for everyone in this game, and means retirement for good.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 19:21 GMT
#1967
On July 13 2020 04:13 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 01:22 tslStrange wrote:
On July 13 2020 00:49 nath wrote:
is the salary a per week or per month number? at 5k starting and 3k+bonus per week, 9 players (looking at average salary in the players table i have from excel file) would make money very tight and it'd be hard to save (if it is per week)
edit:nvm, taking the actual average it's only 222, so per week is fine. got it.

new question
"Your player will be able to gain an experience after playing 11
games." from tslStrange guide...does this mean first 11 OFFICIAL games give no EXP?


I believe your player started with 0 experience and after 11 games he would gain 1 experience. But really TheOnly92 was always vague with exactly how things worked. And my guide was written before he shared the files (I think).

Now thinking back on the game what it absolutely needed most was a player retirement system. People who played the game from the beginning had a big advantage that never dissipates over time because players lasted indefinitely.

That is weird to me. I think im just going to have any official match give experience and scale the number in the database to match the Excel file so I can try to recreate some of the calclulations as a starting point.

Yeah I'm thinking "military service" starts at the same age for everyone in this game, and means retirement for good.



Or once a player reaches a certain age their skills slowly degrade? I have zero idea how any of this is possible since I dont know how to do this stuff.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-12 19:31:05
July 12 2020 19:27 GMT
#1968
On July 13 2020 04:21 tslStrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:13 nath wrote:
On July 13 2020 01:22 tslStrange wrote:
On July 13 2020 00:49 nath wrote:
is the salary a per week or per month number? at 5k starting and 3k+bonus per week, 9 players (looking at average salary in the players table i have from excel file) would make money very tight and it'd be hard to save (if it is per week)
edit:nvm, taking the actual average it's only 222, so per week is fine. got it.

new question
"Your player will be able to gain an experience after playing 11
games." from tslStrange guide...does this mean first 11 OFFICIAL games give no EXP?


I believe your player started with 0 experience and after 11 games he would gain 1 experience. But really TheOnly92 was always vague with exactly how things worked. And my guide was written before he shared the files (I think).

Now thinking back on the game what it absolutely needed most was a player retirement system. People who played the game from the beginning had a big advantage that never dissipates over time because players lasted indefinitely.

That is weird to me. I think im just going to have any official match give experience and scale the number in the database to match the Excel file so I can try to recreate some of the calclulations as a starting point.

Yeah I'm thinking "military service" starts at the same age for everyone in this game, and means retirement for good.



Or once a player reaches a certain age their skills slowly degrade? I have zero idea how any of this is possible since I dont know how to do this stuff.

Either is technically possible, that's not the issue.

I guess if someone started slowly degrading that would force managers to eventually 'sack' them, and maybe we could even not give them gains from training anymore, and maybe they are rarely/never at 100% condition after 25.

In addition to that, y'all might hate it but I really like a random low (weekly) chance after 25 for military service to 'strike' and force a retirement like in real life.
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 12 2020 19:59 GMT
#1969
Wait this was the game were you could poach players from other people?

I think I vaguely remember having a lot of work when starting on developing my 2 aces only to be poached shortly after by a long time player. Am i confusing the game?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 20:18 GMT
#1970
On July 13 2020 04:59 KobraKay wrote:
Wait this was the game were you could poach players from other people?

I think I vaguely remember having a lot of work when starting on developing my 2 aces only to be poached shortly after by a long time player. Am i confusing the game?


Yeah there was no poaching in this game. I think that was the SC2 manager.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 20:18 GMT
#1971
On July 13 2020 04:27 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:21 tslStrange wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:13 nath wrote:
On July 13 2020 01:22 tslStrange wrote:
On July 13 2020 00:49 nath wrote:
is the salary a per week or per month number? at 5k starting and 3k+bonus per week, 9 players (looking at average salary in the players table i have from excel file) would make money very tight and it'd be hard to save (if it is per week)
edit:nvm, taking the actual average it's only 222, so per week is fine. got it.

new question
"Your player will be able to gain an experience after playing 11
games." from tslStrange guide...does this mean first 11 OFFICIAL games give no EXP?


I believe your player started with 0 experience and after 11 games he would gain 1 experience. But really TheOnly92 was always vague with exactly how things worked. And my guide was written before he shared the files (I think).

Now thinking back on the game what it absolutely needed most was a player retirement system. People who played the game from the beginning had a big advantage that never dissipates over time because players lasted indefinitely.

That is weird to me. I think im just going to have any official match give experience and scale the number in the database to match the Excel file so I can try to recreate some of the calclulations as a starting point.

Yeah I'm thinking "military service" starts at the same age for everyone in this game, and means retirement for good.



Or once a player reaches a certain age their skills slowly degrade? I have zero idea how any of this is possible since I dont know how to do this stuff.

Either is technically possible, that's not the issue.

I guess if someone started slowly degrading that would force managers to eventually 'sack' them, and maybe we could even not give them gains from training anymore, and maybe they are rarely/never at 100% condition after 25.

In addition to that, y'all might hate it but I really like a random low (weekly) chance after 25 for military service to 'strike' and force a retirement like in real life.


I like it. Anything that gets this addictive game back is good with me.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
July 12 2020 20:22 GMT
#1972
On July 13 2020 05:18 tslStrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 04:59 KobraKay wrote:
Wait this was the game were you could poach players from other people?

I think I vaguely remember having a lot of work when starting on developing my 2 aces only to be poached shortly after by a long time player. Am i confusing the game?


Yeah there was no poaching in this game. I think that was the SC2 manager.


So this is the one like "mystarcraft"? Damn im confused now.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 21:13 GMT
#1973
On July 13 2020 05:22 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2020 05:18 tslStrange wrote:
On July 13 2020 04:59 KobraKay wrote:
Wait this was the game were you could poach players from other people?

I think I vaguely remember having a lot of work when starting on developing my 2 aces only to be poached shortly after by a long time player. Am i confusing the game?


Yeah there was no poaching in this game. I think that was the SC2 manager.


So this is the one like "mystarcraft"? Damn im confused now.


It was similar to mystarcraft yes. Except you didnt have IRL players (all the players were computer generated with customizable names), and you played vs other managers.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
July 12 2020 22:13 GMT
#1974
how many teams were in a league? and was there just ProLeague style seasons or were there individual leagues you could enter your players in too? how did that affect your income, player condition, etc?
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 12 2020 22:33 GMT
#1975
On July 13 2020 07:13 nath wrote:
how many teams were in a league? and was there just ProLeague style seasons or were there individual leagues you could enter your players in too? how did that affect your income, player condition, etc?


I think it was 12 teams per league? And for a long time there was the top two leagues named 1.1 and 1.2. Then each of those leagues had 2 leagues that you either got promoted from or to depending on your rank at the end of each season. 2.1 and 2.2 were linked to 1.2, and 2.3 and 2.4 were linked to 1.1

Then we also had Proleague where your players competed in a huge bracket solo. I cant remember the condition it took for each match. But I do recall it was a bit of a struggle if one of your players made it deep into Proleague. It became wise to try and not use them in your regular team matches to keep their condition up.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
July 13 2020 13:09 GMT
#1976
wow, the memories, gratz strange for making me sad T.T

btw what happened to batangras? he was supposed to make his own version. is he even still alive?!
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 13 2020 14:07 GMT
#1977
Ive been sad everyday for years. If I knew how to do rebuild the game I would have by now. Batang is alive and well. Hes in the Shakuras group on Steam, but he changed his name. I think school/life just got in the way. Dubbledore got the closest but then disappeared. Im currently re-reading every page in this thread. Finally got to the page where all my players names are. Talk about sadness. I miss my players so much!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Congster
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany20 Posts
July 13 2020 14:39 GMT
#1978
I miss playing too, got into the game at the end kinda, still got giga addicted.
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-14 00:19:51
July 14 2020 00:19 GMT
#1979
Was there a Free Agency system or mechanic that is different than the World Transfer Market? How did this work?

I'm starting to build the Proleague/OSL/MSL schedule and draft so this thought came up
Founder of Flow Enterprises, LLC http://flow-enterprises.com/
tslStrange
Profile Joined July 2020
36 Posts
July 14 2020 02:03 GMT
#1980
On July 14 2020 09:19 nath wrote:
Was there a Free Agency system or mechanic that is different than the World Transfer Market? How did this work?

I'm starting to build the Proleague/OSL/MSL schedule and draft so this thought came up



I believe we did have a giant free agent bidding event but I cant remember how often we did that. But primarily there was just the World Transfer Market. Hows the build going?
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
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