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Serdiuk
Belgium145 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:49 Harem wrote: yes That's one of the main reasons it exists. Cool. Once the hangover I'm working on passes I'll check that out tomorrow and try to get some games in. I don't mind losing to learn. I do mind losing a lot but that's just ego xD. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
Only play BW if you are truly going to enjoy playing the game. If your goal is to get better at sc2, your time is better spent practicing sc2. You say you want to try BW to improve your mechanics and improve your hand speed etc. This can be practiced in SC2 though. I would say it actually shouldn't be practiced in BW because of the interface differences. Some things that are required in BW just don't need to be done in sc2. There are some threads in the BW strategy forums though that may be somewhat useful for you though (or useful for any sc2 player really). Chill once wrote a guide that talked a bit about how to improve your mechanics which can be found here With that being said, I would love it if you gave BW a shot. You might find out you like it more than sc2 and switch over completely. Where do you guys play? On bnet, or on private servers. As everyone else has mentioned, just go to this page and it will explain what to do to get started on iccup. How do you guys handle multiple production facilities, say 10 gateways, when you can't put multiple buildings in one ctrlgroup? I've found that a really, really, REALLY annoying limitation. Yeah, you want to save as much room as you can by grouping your buildings together with good placement. You can then use either shift+f2/f3/f4 to store a map location in a hotkey and press that to go back to all of your production buildings or hotkey one gateway and go back (double tapping the 6 key or whatever). If you think that is an annoying limitation though, just wait until you start using units like reavers (scarab ai is notoriously stupid). Dragoons randomly stop moving too and it can be quite hard to micro them because of this. Playing BW is extremely frustrating. Especially when you are used to your units doing what you to them to quite easily in sc2. However, I've had some epic close games that were more satisfying than any of my sc2 games have felt so far. In many of them I was even the loser. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3130 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Zvi
Israel29 Posts
But: It's best to play on ICCup (http://www.iccup.com/) since there you will find the best players, and perhaps more importantly have the Anti Hack plugin that besides for disabling all sort of hacks let's you enable a very useful function called "Lan Latency" which basically means you can play without much lag trouble. And basically part of what makes broodwar hard is mechanics, late game zerg where you need to control like 120 units and you can only grab 12 at a time or hotkey 12 at a time, makes things hard. Best way to deal with production facility problem is use the F keys to hotkey where your production buildings are and times right quickly run back to base making what you need and go back to micro. Also as zerg up untill late midgame it's usually okay to keep your hatcheries hotkeyed since you won't use up all hotkeys anyway. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
Try to play practice games with someone around your skill level, because the game really becomes infinitely more fun when you play against a player around your level. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:56 a176 wrote: i personally loaded up BWAI so i could practice build orders against AIs with atleast some resemblance and competence to low level players. once you learn the matchups and unit counters you can easily start to take on D level players on iccup, even at this point in time. How can I set this up? | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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mrblue182
United States151 Posts
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lyAsakura
United States1414 Posts
Really recommend you don't play ICCUP after around 04:00 GMT (+00:00) if you are looking for even games. Trust me, you won't get them. | ||
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Flaunt
New Zealand784 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On February 06 2011 15:56 Flaunt wrote: It will not improve your sc2 play what so ever because you're going to spend the whole time getting use to the crappy AI. Sure Brood War is one of the greatest games ever, but I wouldn't recommend going from sc2 to bw unless you have a lot of other friends to play with. Hence, iCCup. | ||
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Apexplayer
United States406 Posts
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PrinceDelight
Australia49 Posts
On February 06 2011 11:49 Harem wrote: yes That's one of the main reasons it exists. Great, I might drop by tonight and see whats up. On another note, I got a friends girlfriend to start playing with me, she has a heap to learn but it's nice having someone closer to my skill level to practice and talk about the game with. Laddering still haunts me... | ||
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ToFu.
331 Posts
edit: so don't play during korean times. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
On February 07 2011 12:20 ToFu. wrote: yes i can get to D+ (~2500) playing only during the weekdays during the day (like lunch, i.e. non-korean times). during korean times, at worst i've been stomped all the way back to d- by plenty of koreans on their way up to C.. (seriously they must have like 10 accounts each there for the number of them i play and next 2 days they're C or higher). edit: so don't play during korean times. This. I don't know when "korean times" are, so I just play whenever I have time. But its kind of frustrating when you go into a D game thinking about having a good game, and then he just completely pummels you from start to finish into oblivion and turns out his highest rank was C or above. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On February 07 2011 16:51 don_kyuhote wrote: This. I don't know when "korean times" are, so I just play whenever I have time. But its kind of frustrating when you go into a D game thinking about having a good game, and then he just completely pummels you from start to finish into oblivion and turns out his highest rank was C or above. I dunno why you guys want to avoid playing Korean times, playing them is pretty much the best way to learn since they don't absolutely suck normally, and it often produces the best games to play imo In fact, I'm kinda pissed that after two weeks of break, I've only run into a couple of Koreans and a bunch of players that should be D but somehow are D+ because of strategic play. It's making me too relaxed in terms of effort and APM :\ | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
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