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On February 06 2011 15:41 lyAsakura wrote: If you play during korean hours, then good luck. Really recommend you don't play ICCUP after around 04:00 GMT (+00:00) if you are looking for even games. Trust me, you won't get them.
Not true whatsoever, there are alot of koreans who are actually D/D-
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
Bnet is pretty much empty or half-empty... I played there, but went away soon as I was able to pick games very rarely...
Another place is Garena. It's the ideal place if you can't create games due to some IP issues!!! I always play there when I want to 2x2 with some buddies. ^_^
There is also Podolsk server (games.podolsk.ru), it has fairly high level of players, but lower than iccup (in russian forum we always call a bad player "a podolsk noob" but this is only a joke, really podolsk is higher level than garena or bnet). There aren't only russians on this server! It is rather popular.
And Captain obvious already on his place to say about iccup. Yeah, that's by now the best server and a place to play and train your Starcraft skills.
I don't know how playing BW will help you with your SC2 skills, but I have to say it's fun by itself. You can't get something to carry on into SC2 just by playing BW for this sole purpose, you have to enjoy this original Starcraft by itself.
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The only reason why i am only SC2 player, is because SC:BW is acting retarded when mixed with Windows 7 + Winamp. Also, i have widescreen, so the stretching of the screen is not the best sight (and i definitly don't like the "window mode"). Also killing explorer.exe everytime i wanna play SC:BW just so the colors are fine, is quite the nuisance. But if everything was fine and dandy with SC:BW (on Windows7/Widescreen) i think i would return to it as well. The game is just THAT great.
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On February 08 2011 04:51 Usurper wrote: The only reason why i am only SC2 player, is because SC:BW is acting retarded when mixed with Windows 7 + Winamp. Also, i have widescreen, so the stretching of the screen is not the best sight (and i definitly don't like the "window mode"). Also killing explorer.exe everytime i wanna play SC:BW just so the colors are fine, is quite the nuisance. But if everything was fine and dandy with SC:BW (on Windows7/Widescreen) i think i would return to it as well. The game is just THAT great.
Hmm try running it in windows mode + x2 size for 1280x960 if your monitor is big enough, it works quite nicely for me.
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On February 06 2011 10:12 Serdiuk wrote: Is it worth my time, or might I just aswell keep playing SC2 since playing BW won't improve my play.
Due to an temporary unability to play SC2, I started to play BW few weeks ago. Although its very hard at the beginning, its a huge load of fun and every improvement is so much more perceptible and satisfying than in SC2.
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instead of Function keys, i ctrl group a gateway that is centered around the gateway area to 5. then i just 5, 5, unit hotkey, click, unit hotkey, click, unit hotkey, etc.
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this is a great question
to be honest, it's a great idea to play bw to help you improve at sc2. I played broodwar for 10 years before sc2, so when I switched to sc2, I was like wow, this game is so much easier!! Auto-mine, unlimited selection, que commands, and of course better graphics, they really improved upon the game.
Bw is a broken, ugly looking game, so yeah, if you play that for a month, then come back to sc2, you'll be like a marine who just went through boot camp.
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On February 08 2011 07:22 canSore wrote: this is a great question
to be honest, it's a great idea to play bw to help you improve at sc2. I played broodwar for 10 years before sc2, so when I switched to sc2, I was like wow, this game is so much easier!! Auto-mine, unlimited selection, que commands, and of course better graphics, they really improved upon the game.
Bw is a broken, ugly looking game, so yeah, if you play that for a month, then come back to sc2, you'll be like a marine who just went through boot camp.
Are you kidding me? bw is not broken, or ugly.
and as it has been said before- playing BW will not help your SC2 skills one lick
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Shit has got to stop. I think people must start realizing the difference between "good" graphics and "pretty" graphics. To me, good graphics is when everything is clearly visible and the graphics don't affect the gameplay. In that sense, even chess has good graphics. It is of course a matter of taste whether you want pretty graphics in the game you play, but to me that isn't important at all.
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If Boxer said SC2 is better than SC1 because it doesn't have the annoying stuff like SC1 had, you know you don't want to go back to that outdated game lol.
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On February 06 2011 10:30 kamikami wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2011 10:12 Serdiuk wrote: Is it worth my time, or might I just aswell keep playing SC2 since playing BW won't improve my play. Ignore any further questions if the answer is no.
Playing BW will improve your SC2 yes, but playing SC2 is the best way to improve in SC2. So if your sole purpose is to improve in SC2, play SC2. If you want to try BW and improve in SC2 at the same time (at lower rate), play some BW. Not so true. BW is (obviously) much more mechanically demanding, with the max 12 unit selection, non-mbs, non-automine, etc. and will train things that you would normally never go out of your way to improve: mouse control (esp. things like marine micro vs lurkers, very similar to marine micro vs banelings but more challenging), mass unit control with more than 2-3 hotkeys, macro (going back to base to send produced workers to mine), and even use of camera hotkeys. If you are a top-tier player and your mechanics are fine, then yeah play SCII to improve in SCII; otherwise, BW is just as good for improving SCII play if your problems concern imperfect mechanics.
On February 08 2011 03:55 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2011 15:41 lyAsakura wrote: If you play during korean hours, then good luck. Really recommend you don't play ICCUP after around 04:00 GMT (+00:00) if you are looking for even games. Trust me, you won't get them. Not true whatsoever, there are alot of koreans who are actually D/D- I think those guys all moved to SCII...
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I played a korean D- today and he owned me 
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Osaka27139 Posts
I went 4-1 on iccup in Korean hours yesterday, and I am frigging terrible. There are still lots of noobs.
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On February 08 2011 08:20 Manifesto7 wrote: I went 4-1 on iccup in Korean hours yesterday, and I am frigging terrible. There are still lots of noobs.
But terrible is relative! Maybe you're like A level by exuding pure manliness, but still terrible compared to Reach.
Back when I laddered, I always had a pretty decent record vs foreigners, and a pretty terrible record vs Koreans. Now when I ladder, I do really meh cause I don't play that much.
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I had 60% winrate vs foreigners, 25% vs koreans. Fun stat, for what its worth
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i just might have to check out this ICCUP and see what all the fuss is about. and it'll be fun to play bw, havnt touched it for about 1.5 years ^_^
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Welcome!
I don't think you will be disappointed with BW. I've only played SC2 a little bit, but the mechanics of BW alone make the game so rewarding due to their difficulty.
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On February 08 2011 03:55 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2011 15:41 lyAsakura wrote: If you play during korean hours, then good luck. Really recommend you don't play ICCUP after around 04:00 GMT (+00:00) if you are looking for even games. Trust me, you won't get them. Not true whatsoever, there are alot of koreans who are actually D/D-
Maybe it's just me then, but all the D's I see in korean hours are atleast C-.
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On February 08 2011 03:55 Megaliskuu wrote: Show nested quote +
Not true whatsoever, there are alot of koreans who are actually D/D-
Maybe it's just me then, but all the D's I see in korean hours are atleast C-. No its not just u, they are often way better than their rank and 2 out of 3 times get pissy if u beat em as D foreigner, so i think they know they are
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I would recommend to play just one game, whichever you find more fun (If you actually want to become a good player).
I would also recommend to watch professional vods and try to replicate/understand the builds they use. If you do play on BNET or ICCUP you will find that most players play nothing like progamers, so you can actually become good pretty quick.
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