EPTiloveoov...most dominant of all time? - Page 2
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GunSec
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weiliem
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On January 13 2011 23:47 MisteR wrote: mdb, what about July? I remember iloveoov and July having some sort of a rivalry, or did that come later? yeah, i rmbr july came up to 3-0 oov when oov was unstoppable. TvZ always have good rivalries..  | ||
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noD
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
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oBlade
United States5831 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:06 endy wrote: Well even his current PL run is still incredible (23-2 or something very close ^_^ ). The only mistake Flash made is to let EffOrt catch up on him and win the Korean Air OSL Season 1 while he was up 2-0. Oov would never had let this happen. I don't follow. The line between who won and who could have won in every finals is very thin, and the sample is so small that it's basically useless. iloveoov could have lost to Boxer in the 5th set, he could have lost to YellOw on U-Boat and been reverse swept 3-2. It's extremely impressive to 3-0 a bunch of opponents in finals, but it's not necessary for the dominance. There are so many different numbers that point to Flash. He has as many finals wins as oov, so it should be a point for him that he's made it to 2 more finals than oov. Not a point against him that basically the spiritual heir to GGPlay suddenly crash landed in Seoul in a UFO, beat him in a finals, and retired. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19302 Posts
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Ryo
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:40 BisuDagger wrote: I agree Flash alst year made him the most dominant in a year. But I think savior had a very dominant year too. And how come Oov isnt listed in Ro16 appearances. He is. That he won alot of Starleagues without high Ro16 appearances only shows how dominant he was, but also that his dominance was short lived. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:29 oBlade wrote: I don't follow. The line between who won and who could have won in every finals is very thin, and the sample is so small that it's basically useless. iloveoov could have lost to Boxer in the 5th set, he could have lost to YellOw on U-Boat and been reverse swept 3-2. It's extremely impressive to 3-0 a bunch of opponents in finals, but it's not necessary for the dominance. There are so many different numbers that point to Flash. He has as many finals wins as oov, so it should be a point for him that he's made it to 2 more finals than oov. Not a point against him that basically the spiritual heir to GGPlay suddenly crash landed in Seoul in a UFO, beat him in a finals, and retired. Well we're talking about dominance, and for me a player is really dominating when no one else can 3-0 him. The fact that EffOrt did 3-0 him -- especially with the mental disadvantage of being down 0-2 -- is indeed a point against Flash's dominance at the period of this final. And I do think that Flash is the most dominant player of all time, it's just that letting EffOrt coming back 3-2 after leading 2-0 is definitely showing that Flash was not that dominating at this moment. He took basically as many losses in 1 hour as Oov took during the many months his streak lasted. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
When you see Fanta play, you can mostly tell oovs builds / influence. It's like oov is the pupeteer of fantasy sometimes lol. Combined his past with his influence now as coach, imo oov still is pretty dominant in bw, despite not playing anymore lol. | ||
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noD
2230 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:24 Aldehyde wrote: Is there some place to see all of Flash's games this year? I am not that into BW even though I want to be. For some reason I really like seeing Flash play, though. it´s kind ez, just youtube ... edit: for example http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flash osl 2010&aq=f | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:55 endy wrote: Well we're talking about dominance, and for me a player is really dominating when no one else can 3-0 him. The fact that EffOrt did 3-0 him -- especially with the mental disadvantage of being down 0-2 -- is indeed a point against Flash's dominance at the period of this final. And I do think that Flash is the most dominant player of all time, it's just that letting EffOrt coming back 3-2 after leading 2-0 is definitely showing that Flash was not that dominating at this moment. He took basically as many losses in 1 hour as Oov took during the many months his streak lasted. Effort > Flash is a non factor/exception mostly because Effort practiced pretty hardcore with Flash over that time because Flash needed to beat Jaedong. Effort had a much deeper understanding of how Flash plays than any other player and was able to out play him via that. | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
i hate to admit but flash probably has the longest dominance in bw during late 2009-2010 where he just looked totally unstoppable while jaedong in 2009 would lose to random scrubs here and there even though he was pretty beastly in a BO5. im not sure how bw will move on from now on, jaedong seems to be more and more inconsistent lately while flash is slowing regaining composure, while stork just seems to be more and more godly. Lets hope for a protoss domination ^_^ | ||
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daxile
Canada829 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 14 2011 00:55 endy wrote: Well we're talking about dominance, and for me a player is really dominating when no one else can 3-0 him. The fact that EffOrt did 3-0 him -- especially with the mental disadvantage of being down 0-2 -- is indeed a point against Flash's dominance at the period of this final. And I do think that Flash is the most dominant player of all time, it's just that letting EffOrt coming back 3-2 after leading 2-0 is definitely showing that Flash was not that dominating at this moment. He took basically as many losses in 1 hour as Oov took during the many months his streak lasted. Oov also lost a Bo5 vs a certain Zerg at the height of his dominance. | ||
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oBlade
United States5831 Posts
oov has lost three games in a row also, on multiple occasions. It doesn't invalidate his streak, nor does the Effort finals smear Flash's streaks. We've talked about his streak before in other threads and it was pointed out that other people (I think chiefly GoRush, and I think by me) had comparable periods, but perhaps against worse competition. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Ok, I just checked TLPD after writing the first paragraph and I admit he went 48-7 (~87% winrate) during the two months preceding the KAS1 finals. Damn you Flash you gosu bastard :> Or I'd rather say damn you EffOrt you gosu alien leaving earth after your OSL victory :| Thanks for reminding me how good Flash was (is) keke | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
 .It's funny how someone can vote for someone else than flash haha. We are talking here about the most dominant year ever by a player. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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