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[Interview] SWL R3 Wemade Fox vs Hite Entus

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United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 03:50:15
January 08 2011 07:48 GMT
#1
Done!

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(T)Midas
"I am special"

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As expected Midas has no fear facing a zerg. Midas continued his now 11 game winning streak in ProLeague by toppling Hite Entus' ace, Hydra, with an early bunker rush into bio into mech transition, and brought it home for his team Wemade Fox.

Midas' bunker rush deserves notice as it has become a strategy that all zergs facing him must be wary of. As Midas once said, it might be a good idea to not even question whether he will bunker rush you. He stated that he plans on continuing to punish zergs who open with a greedy build.

Q How do you feel starting WL with a win.
A I'm so glad to have won. It feels even better that we beat a team like Hite Entus. It feels much better than beating a lower-ranked team.

Q Were you predicted to go in since you hold a pretty respectable position in the team.
A It was a zerg opponent, and it was also my turn to go out, so I went.

Q Roro scored a 3kill.
A To be honest I want to be racking up at least 2kills per match. Still it's okay since we won. Our team comes first. It's better than our team getting 2~3 killed by a player on the opposite team, right?

Q You bunker rush quite often.
A It's my concept these days. No idea why zergs keep trying to open with a greedy 12 hatch. I think they think 'he wouldn't bunker rush again' but oh boy are they mistaken. With my bunker rush opening I think I can counter any build with mid and lategame management that ensues. If zerg goes 12 or 13 pool I think my build suffers a little, but zergs these days keep trying to open greedy. So I plan to keep on bunker rushing. Once zergs open with less risky openings then I will stop bunker rushing.

Q Your fluid transitions shined.
A I think about different builds alot. I always try to figure out how to transition from one build to another in the most natural way. I think that's why my transitions are well optimized.

Q Don't you wanna be the first to play.
A I've always wanted to. I want to be fielded first and get at least 2 kills. That would be good for my team as well. I think last year I was fielded first in the first WL match. I hope our coaching staff takes that into consideration(Laughs). In all seriousness though, I'll get my chance when it's my time to shine.

Q Your predictions on WL.
A Our teammates are so good. I have high hopes for players like (Z)RorO, (T)BaBy, (Z)Shine, (T)Mind, etc. They will do very well in WL I believe. I'm sure others will do well, but I am excited to see those four perform. I'll just be happy being the special one(Laughs).

Q Why are you special.
A I am confident against any player in the world, but I am also suspect to fall to any player as well. I don't feel like I will lose against a good player, but I don't feel like I will crush players that are below me either. Still, recently I've been confident that I can win against any player.

Q Thoughts on the new maps.
A They all suck for terran. La Mancha looks okay for terran, but Empire of the Sun and Fortress SE are terrible for terran. It's really frustrating.

Q Your goal for WL.
A It won't be easy, but I want to try and get an all-kill.

Q Any last words.
A Korean Air's Cho Hyun Min, who helps our team out alot, was recently promoted to director. I want to congratulate him and hope he visits more often.

Source: Daily E-sports


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(Z)RorO
"Unexpected 3-kill, excited for matches to come in the near future"

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He's back.

On January 8th, Roro scored a 3-kill in the Shinhan Bank ProLeague 10-11 R3:Week 1 against Hite Entus, held at the Munlae Hero Center, leading his team to victory.

Roro was fielded when his team was down 0:1, and defeated (Z)Where, (T)Leta, (T)sKyHigh to have a chance to all-kill Hite Entus. Even though he lost to Hydra, Wemade Fox regained composure with Roro's 3-kill, and fielded Midas on Empire of the Sun to crush Hydra and get their first win in R3.

People were saying Shine would be replacing Roro, who went 8-8 in R1 and R2, as Wemade's zerg ace, but by starting off R3 with a 3-kill, people are looking forward to his performance in the rest of his matches.

Q Thoughts on scoring a 3-kill in the first match of WL.
A I had high hopes for WL. I wasn't expecting a 3-kill right off the bat so I am happy.

Q How were your games today.
A I felt disadvantaged in the first game but I got lucky so I won. Starting from my second game, I was warmed up better than my opponent, an attribute unique to WL, I was able to play with a more comfortable mindset and win.

Q You beat two terrans.
A I knew a terran would come out in the second game. Since I am confident in my ZvT and our team has a strong terran lineup, I wasn't worried.

Q You used a hydra bust allin against Leta.
A I think that was my first all-in in a broadcasted math. I use it alot during practice, so I think if I pick the right situation to use it in, it works pretty well.

Q What do you think about the new map La Mancha.
A I still haven't played all that much on it, but it's pretty ordinary since it's a 4 person map. I don't see anything special about it yet. It doesn't look special and I don't have that much experience playing on it yet.

Q Looking at your match versus SkyHigh, it looks as your ZvT improved.
A I was all warmed up having won 2 games already. However since my body was too relaxed I think I made alot of mistakes. I won, luckily, so I am happy.

Q Your last game was regretful. You were so close to an all-kill
A It sucks because I lost so easily. When I saw two of his lings sneaking around, I thought 'He got me.' I couldn't help but concede.

Q What's your mindset going into WL.
A Today I achieved a 3-kill, which was quite unexpected. Since I am off to a good start, I am hoping for good things to come.

Q Your team is maintaining a 50% winrate.
A I feel like our team keeps losing because we don't have a solid finish. We need a solid anchor. I don't think I'm at that level yet. Of course I will practice to be that player one day, but in the meantime I think we all need to step it up so we can finish strong.

Q Your results in R1 and R2 leave much to be desired.
A I think I lost alot to good players. I feel the need to improve so I can beat better players.

Q Any last words.
A I have an MSL match soon. I am going up against Kal who is a very strong player, and want to show you better games.

Source: Daily E-sports
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KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
January 08 2011 08:31 GMT
#2
lol i hate this shit
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
January 08 2011 08:32 GMT
#3
Damn right!

I just hate this shit.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 08 2011 08:39 GMT
#4
Midas and his bunkers, lool :D

thanks for interview!
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 08 2011 08:39 GMT
#5
hahaha "i hate this shit"
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 08 2011 08:44 GMT
#6
Korean Air still dabbling in pro BW!

And I'm glad to see players trying to punish greedy openings.

Thanks for the fast translation
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 08 2011 08:48 GMT
#7
lol Midas: "I hate this shit"

Don't worry. Rage against the anti-terran maps with bunker rushing every greedy zerg, thereby transferring your rage elsewhere.

Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
January 08 2011 08:49 GMT
#8
Love the new Midas mindset
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
January 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#9
Lmao "I hate this shit." I would call him the new Bisu if it weren't for his 11 PL games winning streak.

And i have both Midas and Roro on my FPL roster
Fan of the Jangbanger
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 08 2011 08:59 GMT
#10
hoho go teddybear I Will support you all the way !!!! well except when fighting against kt than >< i have to support my team.
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Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
January 08 2011 08:59 GMT
#11
Thanks for the translation

Loved the Midas interview, gonna root him on to keep punishing 12 hatches hehe
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nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
January 08 2011 09:05 GMT
#12
He didn't actually swear though, right?
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 09:09:06
January 08 2011 09:07 GMT
#13
On January 08 2011 18:05 nodule wrote:
He didn't actually swear though, right?

no.. he said 짜증난다 which is borderline something u wouldn't wanna say on tv... equivalent in english would be saying gosh darnit on tv.. i just wanted to portray his sentiments accurately

or i guess Im pretty conservative... ill take it out if it offends you
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
January 08 2011 09:08 GMT
#14
Lol Midas ftw!
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 09:09:59
January 08 2011 09:09 GMT
#15
is midas trolling?

12 hatch greedy?

it's not like midas tries to 14 cc.... i hope he gets drone rushed more often
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
January 08 2011 09:11 GMT
#16
lol calling 12 hatch greedy
gotta love Midas
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
January 08 2011 09:12 GMT
#17
On January 08 2011 18:11 nozaro33 wrote:
lol calling 12 hatch greedy
gotta love Midas

if it can be punished...it's greedy
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
January 08 2011 09:15 GMT
#18
On January 08 2011 18:12 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 18:11 nozaro33 wrote:
lol calling 12 hatch greedy
gotta love Midas

if it can be punished...it's greedy


so bunker rush into cc is what? not greedy?

for 12 years, 12 hatch was not greedy
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
January 08 2011 09:18 GMT
#19
On January 08 2011 18:15 nK)Duke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 18:12 Zona wrote:
On January 08 2011 18:11 nozaro33 wrote:
lol calling 12 hatch greedy
gotta love Midas

if it can be punished...it's greedy


so bunker rush into cc is what? not greedy?

for 12 years, 12 hatch was not greedy


bunker rush into cc is greedy, like 12 hatch

If it's not perfectly safe, it can be called greedy
nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 09:29:27
January 08 2011 09:29 GMT
#20
14 cc is greedier than 12 hatch......wtf
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
January 08 2011 09:29 GMT
#21
I agree, but they are both greedy
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 08 2011 09:39 GMT
#22
Lol translating 짜증난다 to I hate this shit hahaha. More like "This is really annoying" but I guess that works too

Thank you for the translations!! I've always enjoyed Midas's interviews... Props to Wemade for their win as well
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
January 08 2011 19:35 GMT
#23
saying 12 hatch is greedy because it can be punished via bunker rush is like saying 1gate tech pvp is too fast because some dude can proxy 2gate zealot you.

Come the fuck on, people, any build can be beaten by a good cheese. It doesn't mean it's greedy. What do you want him to do, going 9pool speed when the current meta is 1rax expand so he has a large chance to get shit on economically later game?
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 08 2011 19:42 GMT
#24
lol midas is so funny ^^ good to see him keeping up his strong play!
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
January 08 2011 19:49 GMT
#25
donno why people are saying 12hatch 11 pool is greedy o.0

anyways, hite lost T___T nooo

stupid roro :<
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
January 08 2011 20:15 GMT
#26
thx for translation, loved the Midas interview
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 08 2011 20:25 GMT
#27
Midas: I hate this shit. This interview shows the totally different side of him, unlike the more reserved, quiet type back when he was on SKT.

I guess WeMade made him more brash.
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
January 08 2011 20:41 GMT
#28
On January 08 2011 16:48 rotinegg wrote:
Midas continued his now 11 game winning streak in ProLeague



What ? Where ?

(T)Midas , I don't see any current winning streak 0o (I wish , though)
NoiR
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 21:34:08
January 08 2011 21:33 GMT
#29
if midas keeps up the bunker rushing we can make a flowchart for him? :D
i would love that shit
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
January 08 2011 21:35 GMT
#30
sigh... Hite couldnt pull out the win
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
January 08 2011 22:59 GMT
#31
12hatch is greedy when the opponent TELLS YOU IN ADVANCE HE IS PLANNING TO BUNKER RUSH.

Midas is well-known for having said in interviews, FOR YEARS, "I will bunker rush zerg if the distance is short or they 12hatch". If a zerg goes ahead and 12hatches anyway with a relatively short rush distance, "Greedy" is the nicest way to describe the stupidity.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
January 08 2011 23:10 GMT
#32
I was going to go, "Maps bad for Terran, what?" but then I looked, and ...yeah, they're not that great.
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Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
January 09 2011 00:40 GMT
#33
I think its quite hilarious how he says he will punish 12 hatch zergs for them being greedy when he went 14 CC vs Jaedong and got dronerushed while he himself were greedy :D

And "I hate this shit" <3 that translation rotinegg
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 09 2011 00:53 GMT
#34
On January 08 2011 16:48 rotinegg wrote:
It's my concept these days. No idea why zergs keep trying to open with a greedy 12 hatch. I think they think 'he wouldn't bunker rush again' but oh boy are they mistaken.


haha Midas is so awesome.

I hope he can beat JD. Not that I have anything against JD but there are more than enough zerg in the MSL
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
January 09 2011 01:27 GMT
#35
Midas is so baller, I hope he can beat JD, but going 2-0 vs JD is gonna be pretty tough. Seems like he just can't beat him.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 01:55:52
January 09 2011 01:41 GMT
#36
On January 09 2011 06:33 Vaporeon wrote:
if midas keeps up the bunker rushing we can make a flowchart for him? :D
i would love that shit

[image loading]
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TheDefiler_Saves
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway97 Posts
January 09 2011 02:07 GMT
#37
Thank you for the translations! Midas is great.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 03:21:24
January 09 2011 03:15 GMT
#38
He sounds like a bit of an asshole to me. Hope he 14CC's again and gets drone rushed again for being greedy. He's just lucky his race has an easily cancel-able cheese to resort to every game which has hardly any economic downside.

As for the map's being bad... huh??? Fortress is 19-10 TvZ with 21 TvT's compared to 15 ZvZ's, so slightly terran favoured. Also it's favorable for tactics like 2port which Midas has already shown he likes, or heavy drop based play. The Empire of the Sun stats are already in favour of Terran easily (11-5) and there's been 11 TvT's on it compared to only 4 ZvZ's... so clearly everyone else believes it's infact Terran favoured, so overall... what the fuck is he talking about? Not to mention he just won on the map fairly easily against a good player and zerg doesn't have a particularly easy third gas on the map so i'd like to know what his problem is exactly.

Can't comment on La Mancha or whatever other map he said as i didn't even notice that map being played, guess i skipped those games.

Edit: Oh i just looked at the topic for La Mancha and its a replacement for Grand Line SE and he's still complaining? Jesus.
Ido
Profile Joined November 2005
Germany661 Posts
January 09 2011 03:17 GMT
#39
nice to see Midas winning
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
January 09 2011 12:12 GMT
#40
Phooeey, Roro zvt is not to be messed with. Midas is a baller <3
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 09 2011 17:19 GMT
#41
On January 09 2011 12:15 infinity2k9 wrote:
He sounds like a bit of an asshole to me. Hope he 14CC's again and gets drone rushed again for being greedy. He's just lucky his race has an easily cancel-able cheese to resort to every game which has hardly any economic downside.

As for the map's being bad... huh??? Fortress is 19-10 TvZ with 21 TvT's compared to 15 ZvZ's, so slightly terran favoured. Also it's favorable for tactics like 2port which Midas has already shown he likes, or heavy drop based play. The Empire of the Sun stats are already in favour of Terran easily (11-5) and there's been 11 TvT's on it compared to only 4 ZvZ's... so clearly everyone else believes it's infact Terran favoured, so overall... what the fuck is he talking about? Not to mention he just won on the map fairly easily against a good player and zerg doesn't have a particularly easy third gas on the map so i'd like to know what his problem is exactly.


Those stats are for the old version of Fortress. Midas is talking about Fortress SE.

On January 09 2011 12:15 infinity2k9 wrote:Can't comment on La Mancha or whatever other map he said as i didn't even notice that map being played, guess i skipped those games.

Edit: Oh i just looked at the topic for La Mancha and its a replacement for Grand Line SE and he's still complaining? Jesus.


Yeah it replaced a terran favored map, but that doesn't mean La Mancha is inherently terran favored. See the Khan vs STX interview
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 17:42:44
January 09 2011 17:42 GMT
#42
Hmm the translator should really consider changing "I hate this shit." 짜증난다 is no where close to a profanity in korean. As smix said, it's much closer to 'annoyed' or 'irritating'. It sure makes the interview more interesting but it is not the appropriate translation. People might accidently mistake him for a crass toolbag when he's just being human. Thanks for your hard work though!
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Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
January 09 2011 17:50 GMT
#43
There are really only 2 good responses to fast expand, economic play: Keeping up with your own economic play or well timed hard aggression. Just because bunker rushing isn't currently the "standard play" against a 12 hatch doesn't make it bad or deserving of scorn. Remember when Protoss were trying to 12 or 13 Nexus against Flash? He would bunker rush the hell out of those Protoss.

I say keep it up Midas. Terran are feeling the pressure this season so a shift in gameplay to cutthroat strategies might be just what they need.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
January 09 2011 17:59 GMT
#44
Before it was bunker rush if close and 14cc if far.

Now it's bunker rush into cc.

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