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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 06 2011 00:18 GMT
#81
On January 05 2011 16:21 bearbuddy wrote:
Price inflation?

Seems kinda hard to get a large set of decent players this round, at least relative to the previous official ones. Teams are also pretty expensive, with the exception of ACE.

Yeah. It still seems confusing to a scrub like me who STILL WANTS TO WIN
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
January 06 2011 00:38 GMT
#82
On January 06 2011 08:51 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Why is hwaesung 4...?

I'm thinking cause of jaedong?
They're last in pl but this is wl so I guess it's a little different.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
January 06 2011 00:46 GMT
#83
GenX

Main Team
2 (P)Anytime
3 (T)firebathero
11 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
2 (Z)Modesty
3 (Z)s2
3 (T)sKyHigh
6 KT

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
4 (T)HiyA
4 (Z)HyuN

Reasoning: Jaedong is jaedong, so im hoping for some 4-0s. Anytime for 2 points is a steal, and I think he will preform well (though he didn't do too well in R2...) FBH can rake in some wins, pretty solid player and a good buy at 3 points. Modesty will be sent out for ZvZ snipes, so hopefully he can get one or two wins every match. Last round I picked n.die_Soo, and he didn't do too well. So I'm picking the next mediocre SKT zerg, s2! I'm hoping he does well as he sure did a lot better than soo lol. sKyHigh = well priced at 3. KT should do really well thanks to Flash, but I'm hoping his team can pull it together to help them win.

Action is kinda failing, and so is Hiya. Can't believe HyuN is actually 4 points - what a steal for anti team.
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reyheat
Profile Joined September 2008
Mexico15 Posts
January 06 2011 00:53 GMT
#84
NASC

Main Team
2 (P)Anytime
2 (P)BackHo
11 (P)Bisu (captain)
5 (Z)Calm
0 (T)ClouD
2 (T)Ssak
8 SK Telecom

Anti Team
4 (Z)ggaemo
5 (Z)Great
4 (Z)Killer


User was warned for this post
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
January 06 2011 01:01 GMT
#85
On January 06 2011 08:45 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 07:33 Apex wrote:
On January 06 2011 07:03 Kenpachi wrote:
SO HARD TO MAKE A TEAM. EVERYONE TOO EXPENSIVE

Main Team
2 (P)Anytime
1 (T)Bbyong
7 (Z)Hydra (captain)
7 (T)Light
2 (P)Paralyze
5 (P)Snow
6 Hite

Anti Team
5 (Z)Calm
4 (P)Jangbi
4 (P)Violet


Anytime can actually win games now that he left ACE. Bbyong is actually good. you just dont know it. Hydra is gonna become a bonjwa. hes gonna overtake Jaedong and Flash after winning his first MSL and not slump like the rest. I have light because i need a good terran on my team and he was good last WL. Paralyze has an afro. Snow will help Hydra destroy the world in 2011.

I dont like calm. Jangbi is slumping hard. HAAAAAAAAARD. and i doubt Violet will do anything with Flash allkilling everyone.


This is the kind of statement that confuses me sometimes. It's true that Flash/Jaedong are threats to all-kill but people need not worry about starting times for that. After all, if anything, KT/Oz might send out 1-3 players before sending out Flash/Jaedong so playing time concerns aren't entirely that bad.

oh right. lol well violet isnt consistent enough so i think hes a solid choice for the anti team


Fair enough. :p
After all, Violet did lose to Killer before...X_X
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 06 2011 01:02 GMT
#86
QQ

Main Team
5 (P)Free
5 (Z)Great
2 (T)Iris
4 (T)Mind
2 (Z)Modesty
7 (P)Stork (captain)
5 Woongjin

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
3 (T)sKyHigh
5 (P)Snow

I found it really difficult to choose a team this time around. Maybe because everyone is fairly accurately priced (or just very pricey in general). Generally most rounds have the obvious "Stork & Leta @ 4, Flash @ 6" players to get but although there are a few overpriced players none stand out as particularly good steals at low prices.

Anyway, preliminary team that I'm completely unsure about at the moment. Free seems like a dumb choice but whatever Stars ftw. Iris and Modesty... uhh... no comment.

Anti seems like a no-brainer though, all three are stupidly easy to snipe and won't go on more than a 1-win streak (2 if they're lucky/Snow).
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 01:29:18
January 06 2011 01:29 GMT
#87
Isolated Love

Main Team
5 (P)BeSt
1 (T)Canata (captain)
5 (P)Free
7 (T)Light
2 (Z)Modesty
7 (P)Stork
3 Samsung

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
4 (Z)ggaemo
4 (Z)Killer

Thought Process
Canata as captain: Favorite player, but also allows for flexible trading options. SKT will do well in Winner's League, thus he will net me win points. Might get an appearance or two in WL, which is what anyone could hope for in a one-pointer.

Best: Good streak breaker as he his strong in two matchups, also in SKT. Yes, he can get sniped by a Zerg, but for 5 points, decent value for him.

Light: Can't ignore last season's 3 AKs, and he will turn around. This will be my most volatile investment. Sea/Kal could be a replacement so this team may change. Mulling over 7 point options.

Free: Solid choice, also on a good day, he can compete against the best.

Modesty: ZvZ sniper, and there sure are going to be a lot of Zergs.

Stork and Samsung: Ace for Samsung, and starting to go on a roll. I believe Samsung is due for a turnaround in WL.

Anti-Team:
Killer: Never liked him, and JD-lite isn't going to do well. OZ will slump terribly as I don't see one-man teams going to dominate as much this season.

Action:Ditto for Flash's team.

ggaemo:ACE will severely diminish his skills this season. For 4 points, this was an easy anti-team choice for me.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
January 06 2011 01:49 GMT
#88
Is this free?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 06 2011 01:53 GMT
#89
On January 06 2011 10:49 nyczbrandon wrote:
Is this free?


yes
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 03:22:32
January 06 2011 02:39 GMT
#90
On January 06 2011 10:49 nyczbrandon wrote:
Is this free?


Even if it wasn't I'd pay to play it ^_^

Flash too expensive la

Main Team
3 (P)Brave
2 (T)Iris
11 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
2 (Z)Modesty
1 (P)sHy
7 (P)Stork
4 Hwaseung

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
4 (P)Jaehoon
4 (P)Pure


Horrible Thought Process:

Jaedong Jaedong Jaedong.... okay 19 points left lol >< Get Hwaseung too, 15 points left...

Initially chose (P)BeSt and (Z)Calm seeing as they were going for cheap and both were probably going to make heaps of appearances - BeSt is SKT's Protoss Ace of choice most of the time, and Calm well he just gets around the PL a lot. I also picked (T)sKyHigh, 08/09 WL was the very first season of Proleague I watched, and skyHigh was dominating that, and ended with that reverse all-kill that broke my heart ><

... then switched to (P)Stork, believing all the hype, which isn't a bad choice regardless since he'll probably get sent out every game unless January feels like trolling again.

This left me with a horrible point budget left to buy stuff, 3 points for (P)Brave who has seen a lot of action in PL recently, 2 points for (T)Iris since he'll probably get sent out a lot more often due to history/new recruit in ACE, 2 points for (Z)Modesty as a cheap ZvZ sniper (he was a 1 point wonder in R2), and (P)sHy for 1 point Hwaseung player.

Anti Team:

(Z)Action and (P)Pure were massive flops in 2010 of this season and were easy picks. (P)Jaehoon is also known for fail, probably a pick in every anti-team I'd come up with on principle .

Pretty much, (Z)Action and (P)Jaehoon remain from R2 anti-team, not going to jump on the (Z)RorO bandwagon this time and get self owned ^^.

Additional Thoughts:

I want to buy (P)Anytime too, but then I'd be left with no Terran, and I can't find any 1 point Terran that I can reliably hope to get points with, at least (P)sHy gets sent out every so often and is on JD's team.

The only reason I'm not buying (T)Flash over (Z)Jaedong is purely because of fanboy bias, with no OSL or MSL to practice for, I'm terribly frightened of Flash in the WL... who knows what he's capable of with so much time on his hands...

Lots of (T)Bogus antis this time, I for one think he's fairly reliable~

Oh yea and + Show Spoiler +
GO JAEDONG GO!


EDIT: Woah I just realized I can get (P)Anytime if I grab (T)XellOs or something for (T)Iris, woot go me

MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 20:23:54
January 06 2011 02:42 GMT
#91
Hot damn imba flash is at 13 points.....
Details about my team:

tektastic

Main Team
5 (Z)Calm
2 (P)Flying
4 (T)HiyA
3 (Z)HoGiL
3 (T)sKyHigh
7 (P)Stork (captain)
6 Hite

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
4 (P)Pure
4 (P)Tyson

Main Players:
(P)Stork (C): During winners league he always manage to able to take out 2-3 players before his teammates play but I predict that he will do a all-kill this season of winners league.

(Z)Calm: Even though he lost to mind in OSL his still a good player but not against though opponents like JD, Flash, bisu but I could be wrong. Pretty much what ever I wrote for stork is pretty much the same for Calm

(P)Flying: Even though I haven't seen flying play on proleague this season I still have hopes that he will be able to play games even though free is on the starting lineup for stars.

(T)HiyA: HiyA the one that defeated JD in OSL but can he take games in WL against though opponents? and finally achieve the all kill for his team Hwaseung OZ. A very good TvP and TvZ but his TvT ehh kinda of sketchy but he could make it up for in WL.

(Z)HoGiL: The ZvP of Hite Entus but can you still call him that? Hogil isn't the same hogil that he was in Hite sparkyz days only to get send for PvZ, but now his able to be send in ZvT as for his ZvZ its still not there. Since its winners league im pretty sure the only roll that his gonna get is a ZvP sinpe and losing the next game. hey his 3 points I mine as well get a ZvP sinpe than horang2(which is 4 points) PvP sinpe.

(T)sKyHigh: We all know that skyhigh can do all-kill and reverse all-kills in one game but can he even play a game in WL?, with Leta taking the terran spot light on Hite Entus what can skyhigh do for them? All I can say is if there about to get all killed by some player send him cause he will reverse it. One word for skyhigh is MOMENTUM once he gets that he will start become a key player for hite entus.

Anti Team:
(Z)Action:
Im pretty sure im gonna regret picking Action for my anti team but his been sucking in PL so I hope he brings that with him on WL.

(P)Pure
Pure yet again he will always be on my Anti because his not GOOD.

(P)Tyson
Tyson I just picked him cause his a MBC protoss and I know MBC protoss is lacking wins.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 06 2011 02:59 GMT
#92
If your looking for a 1-point player who is capable of performance, let me remind you of a baller called (Z)hyvaa. In all other formats, he's less then subpar and really doesnt shine to well. But when All-kill comes into play, this man is a solid pillar of results. Every year, he does awful on his own but everytime All-kill rolls around, he blows everyone out of the water. Whatever it is, He's fantastic for his price.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 03:42:30
January 06 2011 03:07 GMT
#93
On January 06 2011 11:59 bumatlarge wrote:
If your looking for a 1-point player who is capable of performance, let me remind you of a baller called (Z)hyvaa. In all other formats, he's less then subpar and really doesnt shine to well. But when All-kill comes into play, this man is a solid pillar of results. Every year, he does awful on his own but everytime All-kill rolls around, he blows everyone out of the water. Whatever it is, He's fantastic for his price.


Oh I was considering that too but ummm from what I can see he didn't do so well apart of beating Jaedong in the '10 WL. He's also not on eSTRO anymore though so he probably won't get sent out as much as he used to. Still arguably a nice 1 pointer choice~ thanks for pointing that out - even for STX team wins.

Also, (IMPORTANT) since Canata got removed from the SKT roster for January, does one still get points from him if SKT wins?
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
January 06 2011 04:32 GMT
#94
On January 06 2011 12:07 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Also, (IMPORTANT) since Canata got removed from the SKT roster for January, does one still get points from him if SKT wins?


Good question I was about to ask this myself. Should we just replace him?
Sucker for nostalgia
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
January 06 2011 05:14 GMT
#95
On January 06 2011 11:59 bumatlarge wrote:
If your looking for a 1-point player who is capable of performance, let me remind you of a baller called (Z)hyvaa. In all other formats, he's less then subpar and really doesnt shine to well. But when All-kill comes into play, this man is a solid pillar of results. Every year, he does awful on his own but everytime All-kill rolls around, he blows everyone out of the water. Whatever it is, He's fantastic for his price.


There is the one thing to note that in previous years he was playing as the best Zerg on eSTRO, where now he's behind Calm and by.hero, and probably even Modesty. If he manages to baller it up in those circumstances, I'm all for declaring him the new WL bonjwa, but I'm not counting on it this time.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
avaTar[
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Mexico301 Posts
January 06 2011 05:28 GMT
#96
NOlove

Main Team
5 (P)BeSt
He is a beast, not easily sniped and on SKT1. The best 5 pointer
3 (Z)HoGiL
Underrated imo, something tells me he'll get a lot of play time/snipes.
2 (Z)Modesty (captain)
Good ZvZ, his team is deep but neither kal or calm promise that much. He definately will get sent out and win a game or two. Captain since he wont be traded anyway.
4 (Z)RorO
All around FOX zerg, definately can hold his ground against whatever is thrown at him. I dont trust mind,pure or midas really...
7 (T)Sea
This is a big gamble, this spot was originally stork's but EVERYONE has stork, and if you want to win this you have to be different. (see motbob's how to win liquibet) Sea is a monster and cannot be sniped easy, he has not been great at WL format, but im sure he is feeling hungry atm
6 (Z)ZerO
For 6 points seems like a really sweet deal now that he can ZvZ and win.
3 Samsung
With stork,brave,turn and great, khan actually seems pretty fit for this format.
Anti Team
4 (Z)ggaemo
3 (P)M18M
6 (T)Really

Really is overprized, and what can i say, i do not believe in ace
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
January 06 2011 07:19 GMT
#97
On January 06 2011 00:14 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
Kimaker wrote:
ANTI-TEAM:

7- Fantasy: I hate Fantasy. I have hated the man since I saw him play for the First time and I saw his dumb gawky face. I have no reasons, just blind hatred. This is more me hoping he loses. So Fantasy, PLEASE LOSE. ALOT. Sincerely, you're biggest anti-fan Kimaker.

PS: You're TvZ is gimmicky and weak, and you're TvP has been figured out. Keep up the good work.


Hwaiting for Fantasy AllKill!

I will cry daggers into my soul T_T
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smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 13:34:11
January 06 2011 13:29 GMT
#98
ooooh damn my First reaL FPL ;/. Such hard choices and I am really sad that I couldnt get neither (Z)Jaedong or (T)Leta since both are my favorite players right now.
Well I obviously took (T)Light with (T)Sea being in a mini-slump right now. I blame (Z)Shine. It was kinda an easy choice. MBC Hwaiting =)
Now the real trouble began. In the end I bet that (Z)Calm and (P)free are gonna roflstomped all the their opponents. I've been really thinking about getting (Z)great and (Z)RorO instead. However I like them both way more :D
I surely made sure to take (P)Anytime not only is he a total baller but he is also the best P on Oz right now !. The last choice was very hard to but I took(Z)HoGiL instead of (T)firebathero
As the Team choice STX gogoggogo !!!!

Too get a good Anti is kinda hard too.
Most people seem to take (Z)Action with the performance he displayed today they might be right in doing so. But I strongly believe that MafiaZerg will pwn faces in the WL.
So I took (T)Really since he will fail utterly !
There are many 4 Point Protosses who all suck hard lately. Sorry (P)JangBi
I doubt you will get out of your slump any time soon. Also remember last WL when (P)Jaehoon owned everybody ! Or does my mind plays tricks on me :D.
Well last the spot took (P)M18M his performance wasnt impressive at all
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 14:55:21
January 06 2011 14:39 GMT
#99
After some deep soul-searching, I decided to tear apart the SKT deck team I had built and replace it with the Air Force team that reflects my rabid fanboyism. I tried not to make it decently competitive, however, since basing your team on Air Force ACE frees up a lots of points.

Air Force Rising

Main Team
3 (T)firebathero (captain)
4 (Z)ggaemo
7 (P)Kal
3 (P)M18M
3 (T)RuBy
7 (P)Stork
0 Air Force

Anti Team
5 (Z)Action
4 (Z)Killer
4 (P)Violet

firebathero himself is decent choice even in competitive teams, so this is no-brainer. ggaemo is obvious addition since he is sent out frequently. Struggled between M18M and Much but thought the former was better choice b/c of gut. I liked what I watched in few games he played. Added RuBy to reap benefits of +1 for team win, and he does manage to snipe better players in some occasions.

Remaining huge pool of points were utilized to take Kal and Stork. I believe they'll turn out to be excellent investments considering their current streaks and the Protoss-favoured nature of the maps.

I don't like Zerg as anti since ZvZ is volatile and one of them sniping good zerg player with a streak can quite hurt, but couldn't see much alternative anyway. My policy is that picking an frequently played player big no no, so avoided cases of clear aces like HiyA or Bogus (not much other players to replace them while in except of Killer, you can expect - say - Princess to take his place comfortably).

This is my first attempt at fantasy proleague- hopefully I can do better than average
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
zmeqt
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria527 Posts
January 06 2011 17:40 GMT
#100
Ok,my team is pretty much done but i am still thinking how to spend 7 points for 2 players on my main and what 4-pointer to put in my anti...For now i have Snow+Classic and Jangbi on anti.But i'm cosiering getting 0 points player and a good 7 points player instead of those two and i'm thorn apart between Jangbi and ggaemo for anti...Sugestions ?
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