EPTWho were/are the best foreign sc1 players? - Page 8
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Hautamaki
Canada1311 Posts
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On December 25 2010 00:51 BlazeFury01 wrote: There's a forerigner on the Asia server/Brain server that's far better then any of the names listed. In terms of skill he's up there with flash...literally. But refuses exposure and lacks the will to travel to Korea since (this game's just a hobby). He's Terran, I'll see if I could get some of his reps and post them on the site so you can judge for yourself. Yes if i was that good i would sit at home and not make hundreds of thousands of dollars by raping progamers left and right... sounds perfectly reasonable. If he was as good as Flash he would want to make $$$ and get famous edit: its not this oo3[3.33] guy again? | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:08 Pulimuli wrote: Yes if i was that good i would sit at home and not make hundreds of thousands of dollars by raping progamers left and right... sounds perfectly reasonable. If he was as good as Flash he would want to make $$$ and get famous I've talked to him about it but he's more focused on college and other things. Traveling to Korea's something he clearly isn't interested in because of his personal life. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:08 Pulimuli wrote: Yes if i was that good i would sit at home and not make hundreds of thousands of dollars by raping progamers left and right... sounds perfectly reasonable. If he was as good as Flash he would want to make $$$ and get famous edit: its not this oo3[3.33] guy again? Nope, not a 3.33 player. He's not even in a team... | ||
KwarK
United States42567 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:13 BlazeFury01 wrote: I've talked to him about it but he's more focused on college and other things. Traveling to Korea's something he clearly isn't interested in because of his personal life. Maybe he told you he was that good but I'm gonna go ahead and not trust him/you. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:21 KwarK wrote: Maybe he told you he was that good but I'm gonna go ahead and not trust him/you. Or maybe your just caught up in your own bias ways. I never asked you to trust me or him that's getting off topic and wasn't relative to my original post. I made my decision based off of game observations and replay analysis. In my opinion, I believe he's displayed near the same caliber of skill of flash. I then went on to say that "I'll let you judge for yourself by uploading some reps" in other words telling you to hold your tongue before you give your opinion. But sure, feel free to unleash your opinions if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:36 BlazeFury01 wrote: Or maybe your just caught up in your own bias ways. I never asked you to trust me or him that's getting off topic and wasn't relative to my original post. I made my decision based off of game observations and replay analysis. In my opinion, I believe he's displayed near the same caliber of skill of flash. I then went on to say that "I'll let you judge for yourself by uploading some reps" in other words telling you to hold your tongue before you give your opinion. But sure, feel free to unleash your opinions if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Listen, skill isn't determined by how the fuck you do in practice games. In practice games I was one of the best players in the non Korean scene especially when it came down to PvZ but I never was anything more than top30 in games that mattered. There's a HUGE difference between "raw skill" (which is what you most likely mean) and REAL skill which includes nerves of steel, the right decisions when under the utmost pressure etc etc, there's just so much more than it meets the eye that matters if there's a shitload of money on the line and tons of people watching you. So seriously, go fuck off for being as naive to call someone as good as Flash until he dominated the progaming scene as Flash did until quite recently, your opinion does have zero foundation and YOU are the one being biased here. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On December 25 2010 00:51 BlazeFury01 wrote: There's a forerigner on the Asia server/Brain server that's far better then any of the names listed. In terms of skill he's up there with flash...literally. But refuses exposure and lacks the will to travel to Korea since (this game's just a hobby). He's Terran, I'll see if I could get some of his reps and post them on the site so you can judge for yourself. This guy speaks the truth. I've played that guy one, and trust me he's fucking good. He managed to take a game off me in a Bo9. Flash couldn't even if I was blind folded. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:44 iNfeRnaL wrote: Listen, skill isn't determined by how the fuck you do in practice games. In practice games I was one of the best players in the non Korean scene especially when it came down to PvZ but I never was anything more than top30 in games that mattered. There's a HUGE difference between "raw skill" (which is what you most likely mean) and REAL skill which includes nerves of steel, the right decisions when under the utmost pressure etc etc, there's just so much more than it meets the eye that matters if there's a shitload of money on the line and tons of people watching you. So seriously, go fuck off for being as naive to call someone as good as Flash until he dominated the progaming scene as Flash did until quite recently, your opinion does have zero foundation and YOU are the one being biased here. I agree with some of your points. All I did was state my opinion and everybody here became so defensive about it. So, how am I being bias? I supported my answer with what I was comparing my opinion to. Personally, I think your still suffering from the humiliation flash and everybody else gave you on the WCG stage that's why your being so defensive about my opinion. You have zero reason to lash out at me as my previous post doesn't even mention your name or how immature you are for your age. I stated my opinion and was going to upload some reps therefore you could make your own judgement. And your correct as to saying my opinion has zero foundation because in actuality...neither does yours so saying that was really pointless lol | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On December 25 2010 01:54 BlazeFury01 wrote: I agree with some of your points. All I did was state my opinion and everybody here became so defensive about it. So, how am I being bias? I supported my answer with what I was comparing my opinion to. Personally, I think your still suffering from the humiliation flash and everybody else gave you on the WCG stage that's why your being so defensive about my opinion. You have zero reason to lash out at me as my previous post doesn't even mention your name or how immature you are for your age. I stated my opinion and was going to upload some reps therefore you could make your own judgement. And your correct as to saying my opinion has zero foundation because in actuality...neither does yours so saying that was really pointless lol You said you agree with some of my points yet you go on to make another nonsense statement - do you think I was ANGERED that I lost to FLASH? Seriously? No foreigner could be that cocky and ignorant, really. I was having a good time in LA and I prefered getting drunk as hell over "trying to make top4 which still doesn't give you any money" (not to mention that there was nobody to play BW with before WCG anymore if you're not a Korean or have super duper Inet) Onto the rest, even if I am immature - did I show any immature arguments? Nope, you just don't really have anything to counter my arguments that's why you are going on a more personal level.  Yes, I have a reason to say that in my eyes what you said is utter bullshit because it is. Even IF he was as good as Flash in practice games and the replays are as good as you're it still doesn't mean he is as good as him when it matters and it would not change my statement that Flash is still miles ahead of him. In fact what I was trying to tell you is that NOBODY is able to make a claim that someone is as good as Flash by solely watching a few replays that might show the person in a very suitable environment. That is the argument you will never be able to overcome and you know it. Mental strenght can not be viewed in replays. Never ever. My argument that Flash is better does have no foundation? How about the foundation of a 2450 Elo peak, #1 Kespa since ages, dominating people left and right (except this OSL/MSL from statement), having a shitload of titles under his belt etc etc? Do you REALLY think I have no reason to say that, no matter how good this guy might be, he's still a nothing compared to what FlaSh achieved? That you're even trying to defend your point given the fact you're talking about the best player that has ever walked down on earth... seriously, don't you realize how hilarious this actually is? P.S: If you would've said "this guy is A+ level and is really amazingly good, I'll try to get replays to prove, I would have ZERO problems with such a statement if you actually get the reps to back that up. But using Flash as a comparison... F A I L fixed 1-2 typos o,o | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 02:05 iNfeRnaL wrote: You said you agree with some of my points yet you go on to make another nonsense statement - do you think I was ANGERED that I lost to FLASH? Seriously? No foreigner could be that cocky and ignorant, really. I was having a good time in LA and I prefered getting drunk as hell over "trying to make top4 which still doesn't give you any money" (not to mention that there was nobody to play BW with before WCG anymore if you're not a Korean or have super duper Inet) Onto the rest, even if I am immature - did I show any immature arguments? Nope, you just don't really have anything to counter my arguments that's why you say going on a more personal level. So seriously, go fuck off for being as naive to call someone as good as Flash until he dominated the progaming scene as Flash did until quite recently, your opinion does have zero foundation and YOU are the one being biased here. Yes, I have a reason to say that in my eyes what you said is utter bullshit because it is. Even IF he was as good as Flash in practice games and the replays are as good as you're it still doesn't mean he is as good as him when it matters and it would not change my statement that Flash is still miles ahead of him. In fact what I was trying to tell you is that NOBODY is able to make a claim that someone is as good as Flash by solely watching a few replays that might show the person in a very suitable environment. That is the argument you will never be able to overcome and you know it. Mental strenght can not be viewed in replays. Never ever. My argument that Flash is better does have no foundation? How about the foundation of a 2450 Elo peak, #1 Kespa since ages, dominating people left and right (except this OSL/MSL from statement), having a shitload of titles under his belt etc etc? Do you REALLY think I have no reason to say that, no matter how good this guy might be, he's still a nothing compared to what FlaSh achieved? That you're even trying to defend your point given the fact you're talking about the best player that has ever walked down on earth... seriously, don't you realize how hilarious this actually is? P.S: If you would've said "this guy is A+ level and is really amazingly good, I'll try to get replays to prove, I would have ZERO problems with such a statement if you actually get the reps to back that up. But using Flash as a comparison... F A I L fixed 1-2 typos o,o[/QUOTE] Onto the rest, even if I am immature - did I show any immature arguments? Nope, you just don't really have anything to counter my arguments that's why you say going on a more personal level. Oh? Read below and show me a sentence of maturity... So seriously, go fuck off for being as naive to call someone as good as Flash until he dominated the progaming scene as Flash did until quite recently, your opinion does have zero foundation and YOU are the one being biased here. You wrote all this considering that the post had nothing to do with you in the first place. But, your right in some senses. Until he proves his skill in a pro environment then there shouldn't be a comparision. That's really all you had to say, but you went the distance to insult me for my opinion which wasn't necessary and which is why I called you immature. You can't win in an argument with me when I'm the one that has reason and backup for everything I write. Plus, I'm understanding. | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Very mature behaviour of you. I didn't insult you btw, I told you to fuck off because your statement was naive. If you think that is too insulting... uhh oh.  Never told anyone to stfu if he talked bullshit? You must be some kind of saint. Regarding YOUR maturity: From: BlazeFury01 [ 6 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Dismantled Date: 12/25/10 01:55 Warning! This message is from a user with only 6 posts. Do not reveal any personal information or click any links unless you are sure this is a legitimate user. lol you we're completely dismantled in WCG. I think your level of play speaks for itself. You we're never anything more then a B- gamer. Nice mature PM my friend, done with you, up to the readers to make their conclusions about you. Have a nice christmas eve despite being naive. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 02:19 iNfeRnaL wrote: Oh congratz, you just ignored all my arguments and tried to jump on the "me being immature" train again. Very mature behaviour of you. I didn't insult you btw, I told you to fuck off because your statement was naive. If you think that is too insulting... uhh oh. Never told anyone to stfu if he talked bullshit? You must be some kind of saint. Regarding YOUR maturity: From: BlazeFury01 [ 6 posts | Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Dismantled Date: 12/25/10 01:55 Warning! This message is from a user with only 6 posts. Do not reveal any personal information or click any links unless you are sure this is a legitimate user. lol you we're completely dismantled in WCG. I think your level of play speaks for itself. You we're never anything more then a B- gamer. Nice mature PM my friend, done with you, up to the readers to make their conclusions about you. Have a nice christmas eve despite being naive. That's not immaturity it's the truth. Are you not a B- gamer? We're you not dismantled at WCG? Yes for both. If it wasn't factual then I could understand it as being immature but it's fact so therefore you posting it was rather irrelevant. The immature part is you posting messages in the forums thinking it would provide some similarity to me showing a sign of immaturity. lol infernal please think before you post. | ||
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cHicKeLoR
Germany559 Posts
Those are the names I can recall when thinking about really good foreign sc1 gamers. | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On December 25 2010 02:19 iNfeRnaL wrote: Oh congratz, you just ignored all my arguments and tried to jump on the "me being immature" train again. Very mature behaviour of you. I didn't insult you btw, I told you to fuck off because your statement was naive. If you think that is too insulting... uhh oh. Never told anyone to stfu if he talked bullshit? You must be some kind of saint. Regarding YOUR I didn't ignore your arguments. I said I agree with your points. lol You seriously must not be reading anything I wrote. What's sad is that you just went on to display how immature you really are. WOW infernal WOW... User was warned for this post | ||
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Johnnybegood2night
Germany31 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
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RoyaleBrainSlug
United States295 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
glad to hear that you had a good time at WCG though | ||
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