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themonkyguy
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia149 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 12:47:20
July 01 2010 10:53 GMT
#1
Both interviews are done, and you did not see this translation thread

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(Z)EffOrt: I fooled (T)Flash

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-Thoughts on being the first to advance to ro16?
▲ I didn't really wanted to be in the opening match initially, but since I won 2:0 in such a hasty fashion it felt like I was flying, I'm so happy! I came here thoroughly prepared and got pretty good results.

-You met (T)Flash in the winner's game.
▲ Before our match we said to each other in the waiting room, that we will advance together, however we each thought 'I will advance first'. We've already said during the group selection that we wish to beat each other, and in the end I won, so I'm very happy.

-Your mind game was exceptionally strong, and you seem to be unusually confident against the (T)Flash, who has 100 dan vision. (T/N: probably means flash sees all aka hax)
▲ Recently I tried alot of different freestyle strategies, and I discovered alot of pretty good plays. In one particular, it doesn't matter how good (T)Flash's vision is, if I could act well, I could definitely fool him. And since my acting skill is better than flash's vision, I'm very confident.

-Your thoughts on this season?
▲ I've only gotten into ro16, and I hope I can make a better mark in BoX series. I hope I can go further in this MSL.

-(T)sKyHigh will play soon.
▲ I actually played alot of games with him, we studied maps and practiced together. Since we are very good teammates, I hope he can advance as well.

-You seem to have stagnated abit after your OSL win.
▲ Whenever everyone think I'm in a slump and in a losing streak, I can only think about how I must play better. Now that I finally got some results, its very sweet.

-Anything else you want to say?
▲ (T)sKyHigh you better advance. (laugh)


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(T)Flash: I will show my champion strength.

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-Thoughts on advancing?
▲ I'm very happy to have advanced, my only regret is that I didn't win 2:0.

-What do you think of the match against (T)Classic?
▲ I predicted his strategy, so I was able to win easily.

-In your match against (Z)EffOrt you were beaten by mind game.
▲ During the match even I thought I was a goner, after the match the coach told me that he went hive without making a single lurker, and I thought it was pretty ridiculous. However, I did lose, and I hope we can play again in the future.

-What's your goal this season?
▲ The ultimate goal is winning the final of course, but I still have to take it one step at a time. Even if I'm losing I must show my strength as a champion, and go the extra distance.

-Your recent results has been inconsistent.
▲ I don't mind, I can take it. I have been searching for my form in my recent matches, and now I've already regained the feel I had last season.

-What's the reason for going mech in the final match?
▲ Terrans have alot of strategic choices on Odd-eye, I merely chose one of them.

-You might have to play against a teammate in ro16.
▲ Looks like I made a mistake in group selection, I hope (P)Violet hyung can advance in second place (laugh).

-It seems like your choice of drinks has changed?
▲ No, it's just that I already drank all the ones that I had, and the coach had to buy more for me on the spot (laugh).

-Any last thoughts?
▲ There's alot I want to say, it's about one of our team member whose identity I will not disclose. Last season I won the most-win award, but then he goes to the other teammates and said 'flash should have played better'. Saying those kind of things really hurt me. For the team I have won 2 consecutive most-win award and I sacrificed alot for it, and because of that I feel that I have worked harder than anyone. I hope after he has seen this interview he would feel a little guilty towards me. Saying those things behind my back really disappointed me. We are all working hard for the same team, so there should be no reason to say bad things between team members.
(T/N: Ok I did some extra reading and apparently there is abit of lost in translation, the person in question is someone that works with the team but it may not be a player, so it could be a team/management staff for all we know. Flash was being pretty vague.)


Source: http://www.playsc.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=203811&extra=page=1
http://sc.plu.cn/note/2010-07-01/19564.html

Edit: I accidentally forgot to add 'Ro32' in the thread title, I wonder if its a big deal? If so can some mod fix it?
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Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
July 01 2010 10:56 GMT
#2
thanks for super-fast tranlations : >
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 01 2010 10:58 GMT
#3
lol effort!
and nice, thanks!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Vietnam598 Posts
July 01 2010 11:01 GMT
#4
CJ fighting
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Hallucination
Profile Joined May 2010
United States249 Posts
July 01 2010 11:20 GMT
#5
Fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me...you can't get fooled again.

Flash vs Effort in a series PLEASE
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
July 01 2010 11:32 GMT
#6
what? another series where effort embarrasses flash with just lings?

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I mean it was so pathetic, flash failed so hard to lose 3 in a row from a 2-0 lead+ Show Spoiler +
I mean my D+ friend can build a supply depot to block some lings in the min line+ Show Spoiler +
eh don't mind me I'm just being a sarcastic prick


Thanks for the translation!
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
July 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#7
On July 01 2010 20:20 Hallucination wrote:
Fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me...you can't get fooled again.

Flash vs Effort in a series PLEASE


Kekekeke! That is from George Bush Right?

AH, Finally Flash interview
SO LONG. *touching*
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FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 11:37:02
July 01 2010 11:36 GMT
#8
I'm glad Flash advanced despite losing, still it wasn't a box series so it doesn't matter. I don't see Effort winning another starleague unless he doesn't have to play Flash or Jaedong.
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Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
July 01 2010 12:16 GMT
#9
Hope whoever said Flash should have played better can back up his statement... like "was just kidding guys..." - _ -
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 12:22:41
July 01 2010 12:18 GMT
#10
Effort is either a very bad TvZ practice partner, or Skyhigh is just plain bad.
-Any last thoughts?
▲ There's alot I want to say, it's about one of our team member whose identity I will not disclose. Last season I won the most-win award, but then he goes to the other teammates and said 'flash should have played better'. Saying those kind of things really hurt me. For the team I have won 2 consecutive most-win award and I sacrificed alot for it, and because of that I feel that I have worked harder than anyone. I hope after he has seen this interview he would feel a little guilty towards me. Saying those things behind my back really disappointed me. We are all working hard for the same team, so there should be no reason to say bad things between teammates.

lol drama. Well I wonder if Flash would transfer to another team.
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kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
July 01 2010 12:20 GMT
#11
my money is on forgg.
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
July 01 2010 12:23 GMT
#12
Who is the traitor? I'd like to hate him. lol.

GJ on tricking flash cause thats all you got buddy. Can't wait for the next rounds.
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
July 01 2010 12:25 GMT
#13
lol glad they asked about the missing pocari sweat hahaha

and i wonder who's that teammate?

tnx for the fast translation
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 01 2010 12:29 GMT
#14
-Your recent results has been inconsistent.
▲ I don't mind, I can take it. I have been searching for my form in my recent matches, and now I've already regained the feel I had last season.

Just what I wanted to hear.

Thanks for the translation.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
July 01 2010 12:38 GMT
#15
burn the traitor!
POGGERS
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
July 01 2010 12:40 GMT
#16
On July 01 2010 19:53 themonkyguy wrote:
Both interviews are done, and you did not see this translation thread

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-Anything else you want to say?
▲ (T)sKyHigh you better advance. (laugh)



UH OH.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
July 01 2010 12:42 GMT
#17
I dont think it was forgg, my tip would have been lux, hes a giant douche and was on the team at that time iirc
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themonkyguy
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia149 Posts
July 01 2010 12:46 GMT
#18
Ok I did some extra reading and apparently there is abit of lost in translation, the person in question is someone that works with the team but it may not be a player, so it could be a team/management staff for all we know. Flash was being pretty vague.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 01 2010 13:07 GMT
#19
Thanks for interview.
God, when I think of it, when a z makes 3 saturated bases without a single lurker and only around 10 speedlings... Mother of god, if that's what it takes to beat him.
It's somewhat the same thing JD tried against him on Triathlon.
In the woods, there lurks..
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
July 01 2010 13:22 GMT
#20
During the match even I thought I was a goner, after the match the coach told me that he went hive without making a single lurker, and I thought it was pretty ridiculous.


Lol Flash, Effort totally outplayed you, its ok to admit it for once
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HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
July 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#21
flash with black hair makes him mortal..hes dropping games.. hope its not a team mate just some manager or something like that..
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snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
July 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#22
On July 01 2010 22:07 Iplaythings wrote:
Thanks for interview.
God, when I think of it, when a z makes 3 saturated bases without a single lurker and only around 10 speedlings... Mother of god, if that's what it takes to beat him.
It's somewhat the same thing JD tried against him on Triathlon.


Yeah man, every one of Flash's losses is further proof that he's a bonjwa
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 13:29:10
July 01 2010 13:28 GMT
#23
It's called smart play. Flash is known to turtle and Effort took advantage of knowing what to expect again. It seems like whenever they get together Effort is two steps ahead of Flash.

I wonder what Skyhigh's rec was against Effort in those practice matches. Considering Effort said "Skyhigh you better make it!" with a laugh, it almost sounds like Effort is mocking the poor guy. ;/
cokencheese
Profile Joined October 2009
Philippines748 Posts
July 01 2010 13:39 GMT
#24
Even at 18 yo Flash really is still a kid.
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 14:14:00
July 01 2010 13:54 GMT
#25
Hmmm....who could it be? And after Flash said this, what would happen?

Whatever, mad props for this

-Your recent results has been inconsistent.
▲ I don't mind, I can take it.


That's the spirit. Go go go Flash.
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Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
July 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#26
On July 01 2010 22:28 StarStruck wrote:
Flash is known to turtle


People don't watch enough of Flash's games.

Ty for the translation.
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
July 01 2010 14:32 GMT
#27
Yeaaa~ Flash with Black hair is not like the Flash I know!

This few weeks I am in worry, but after reading this. I feel so much relieved.

He can do it! Dual gold this season~~ keke
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
July 01 2010 14:35 GMT
#28
Intense rivalry lol
▲ ▲ ▲
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 01 2010 14:40 GMT
#29
hehe

"Effort did some sort of econ heavy build. Man who does those anyway? I thought it was ridiculous"

StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 14:45:22
July 01 2010 14:43 GMT
#30
On July 01 2010 22:55 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 22:28 StarStruck wrote:
Flash is known to turtle


People don't watch enough of Flash's games.

Ty for the translation.


I've watched over 100 of his games and when he was starting off it was a known fact. The guy sat back a lot. ._. He's obviously not on top of his game and he admitted it, hence you got to question his decision making.

It was a generalization.

I don't see your argument.

TY for trying to take my comment out of context.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
July 01 2010 14:48 GMT
#31
On July 01 2010 23:43 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 22:55 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
On July 01 2010 22:28 StarStruck wrote:
Flash is known to turtle


People don't watch enough of Flash's games.

Ty for the translation.


I've watched over 100 of his games and when he was starting off it was a known fact. The guy sat back a lot. ._. He's obviously not on top of his game and he admitted it, hence you got to question his decision making.

It was a generalization.

I don't see your argument.

TY for trying to take my comment out of context.

found the flaw
POGGERS
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 01 2010 14:50 GMT
#32
konadora are you saying players like him cannot fall back to old tendencies? Because I see that happening a lot with good players. Case in point Flash still uses 14cc even though he lost a lot with it when he started off with the build.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
July 01 2010 14:59 GMT
#33
On July 01 2010 21:46 themonkyguy wrote:
Ok I did some extra reading and apparently there is abit of lost in translation, the person in question is someone that works with the team but it may not be a player, so it could be a team/management staff for all we know. Flash was being pretty vague.



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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
July 01 2010 15:01 GMT
#34
Haven't seen the games yet but isn't Flash known for making ridiculous reads based on very little information? Like guessing where the lurkers are based on zergling movement or guessing builds from circumstantial evidence and then treating it as a fact? Seems like it would make him very vulnerable to fakes as long as his opponent knew exactly what Flash was looking for.
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
July 01 2010 16:02 GMT
#35
Isnt luxury already gone -_-? im betting on coaches since flash is very friendly to all the progamers. I see so many interviews that has flash being mentioned that i am now surprised thats hes not being mentioned in interviews
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pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
July 01 2010 16:20 GMT
#36
On July 01 2010 21 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              01 2010 21      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:20 kawatan wrote:
my money is on forgg.


Same
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Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
July 01 2010 16:37 GMT
#37
On July 02 2010 01:20 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 21 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              01 2010 21      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:20 kawatan wrote:
my money is on forgg.


Same


My bet is on the cook.
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worldEnder
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia74 Posts
July 01 2010 16:49 GMT
#38
What the hell, Effort doesn't look like an Alien?
jaedong's dong is so baller.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2231 Posts
July 01 2010 16:53 GMT
#39
On July 01 2010 23:43 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 22:55 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
On July 01 2010 22:28 StarStruck wrote:
Flash is known to turtle


People don't watch enough of Flash's games.

Ty for the translation.


I've watched over 100 of his games and when he was starting off it was a known fact. The guy sat back a lot. ._. He's obviously not on top of his game and he admitted it, hence you got to question his decision making.

It was a generalization.

I don't see your argument.

TY for trying to take my comment out of context.

When flash was starting, he was KING of CHEESE, so saying he was known for turtling when he was starting is just wrong as much as possible. Do your history homework first.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 01 2010 16:58 GMT
#40
Looks like Effort is gonna be the July to Flash's oov
anyways.. where is this translation from
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 01 2010 17:31 GMT
#41
On July 02 2010 01:37 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 01:20 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
On July 01 2010 21:20 kawatan wrote:
my money is on forgg.

Same

My bet is on the cook.

The butler did it.

Also, (Z)EffOrt and (T)Flash, ballers both! But my allegiance lies with the alien. Which is why that was so great to watch.
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 01 2010 17:32 GMT
#42
On July 01 2010 23:50 StarStruck wrote:
konadora are you saying players like him cannot fall back to old tendencies? Because I see that happening a lot with good players. Case in point Flash still uses 14cc even though he lost a lot with it when he started off with the build.


And he won against Jaedong in the MSL finals by going 3x 14cc..
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everytimee
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
July 01 2010 17:40 GMT
#43
On July 01 2010 23:50 StarStruck wrote:
konadora are you saying players like him cannot fall back to old tendencies? Because I see that happening a lot with good players. Case in point Flash still uses 14cc even though he lost a lot with it when he started off with the build.


i dont remeber flash ever "losing alot". and Flash is kinda the best player ever so good is an understatement i think.
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
July 01 2010 18:47 GMT
#44
SC DRAMA!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 01 2010 18:50 GMT
#45
On July 02 2010 00:01 hypercube wrote:
Haven't seen the games yet but isn't Flash known for making ridiculous reads based on very little information? Like guessing where the lurkers are based on zergling movement or guessing builds from circumstantial evidence and then treating it as a fact? Seems like it would make him very vulnerable to fakes as long as his opponent knew exactly what Flash was looking for.

Actually in that game they showed in the replay that Flash saw the lurkers burrowing.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
July 01 2010 19:07 GMT
#46
Thanks for the translations
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ISighZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States270 Posts
July 01 2010 19:39 GMT
#47
Yayyy Haven't read anything from Flash lately!!
Thanks for translating!
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 01 2010 22:18 GMT
#48
Ooooo, I like how Flash mix some personal stuff into his interviews. Dramalama.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
July 01 2010 23:10 GMT
#49
On July 01 2010 21:23 alexpnd wrote:
Who is the traitor? I'd like to hate him. lol.

GJ on tricking flash cause thats all you got buddy. Can't wait for the next rounds.


so effort's beaten flash in

a)macro games

b)all ins

c) semi all ins

d)mind games

and thats all he got? you're kidding right?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Antiochus
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada548 Posts
July 02 2010 00:42 GMT
#50
On July 01 2010 19:53 themonkyguy wrote:

During the match even I thought I was a goner, after the match the coach told me that he went hive without making a single lurker, and I thought it was pretty ridiculous.


This is the best part of the whole interview.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-02 07:10:29
July 02 2010 01:16 GMT
#51
Mewtwo psychic powers too strong! Resisting mind game is futile.

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[image loading]

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Pretty cool flash used the interview to callout a shittalker hehe.
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zappa372
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Chile365 Posts
July 02 2010 01:22 GMT
#52
o thought translators were on strike, ty for translating but i still wanna see some Mr. action
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
July 02 2010 02:50 GMT
#53
Meh, I set the alarm to wake me 5am but sadly its not enough if I go to bed 2am. Would love to see (Z)EffOrt winning as the OSL finals were the most fun I had since last Superbowl. Well done both and gogo Flash

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to be manhandled by (Z)Jaedong of course, (possibly) denying his last chance for a golden mouse, how awesome would that be?


-In your match against (Z)EffOrt you were beaten by mind game.
▲ During the match even I thought I was a goner, after the match the coach told me that he went hive without making a single lurker, and I thought it was pretty ridiculous.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Playing ridiculous seems a very useful talent toi have.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 02 2010 03:17 GMT
#54
Poor flash
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July 02 2010 08:58 GMT
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