• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:12
CEST 06:12
KST 13:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE7Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b5IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"7ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!41
StarCraft 2
General
Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Terran or Protoss 3kb/s downloading patch..... are we back to 1998? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool ASL22 General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Star Con San Diego 2026 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Games, Hormones, and "Dark" …
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6584 users

[Interview] Hana MSL 2010 Semi-Final B Winner - Page 5

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 13 Next All
asdfTT123
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
May 20 2010 13:31 GMT
#81
OMFG Jaedong is so sexy!!! Lolz at KTFlash fanboyism. Jaedong for the golden badge! ^_^
n.Die_Jaedong <3
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 13:33:47
May 20 2010 13:32 GMT
#82
On May 20 2010 21:44 Scaramanga wrote:
Romad if player x > player y dose this automaticly make player x better overall? So by your logic snow and effort are the best players in the world because they beat flash? You cant just say because JD is better than flash in two finals and as flash has been the best for the last 6 months, JD is now the greatest player in the world. Yes JD > Flash head to head but overall Flash is still better


Theres a different between a proleague game and a best of 5.

Maybe I'm generalizing too much but its say to say JD seems to be way better in terms of mental stat during seriese. One cool statistic last year that managed to hold true for the OSL and MSL was that Flash has won all the best of 3s against jaedng and jaedong has won all the best of 5s against flash.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 20 2010 13:32 GMT
#83
On May 20 2010 22:25 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Jaedong is better then FlaSh, at least in results. Lately FlaSh has been on an unbelievable tear, but Jaedong still has more SL's.

Also, I was pretty sure that 99.9% of the community believed that Jaedong had the poweroutage game completely won. FlaSh was mining from a min only, he most likely was getting low on money, and his push to disrupt Jaedongs 4th base when he was taking a 5th was pretty much deterred. It was over.


aaaaaaaaaagh There are a billion threads on this already and why it's not so simple good god can we never bring this repetitive argument up again?
Remember Violet.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 20 2010 13:34 GMT
#84
On May 20 2010 22:25 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Jaedong is better then FlaSh, at least in results. Lately FlaSh has been on an unbelievable tear, but Jaedong still has more SL's.

Also, I was pretty sure that 99.9% of the community believed that Jaedong had the poweroutage game completely won. FlaSh was mining from a min only, he most likely was getting low on money, and his push to disrupt Jaedongs 4th base when he was taking a 5th was pretty much deterred. It was over.

No, 99.9% of the community does not believe that. We've just stopped talking about it because it was getting tiresome.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
May 20 2010 13:43 GMT
#85
--- Nuked ---
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
May 20 2010 13:56 GMT
#86
so excited for the finals :D :D :D (lol at flame war)
Writer
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 20 2010 13:58 GMT
#87
On May 20 2010 22:31 asdfTT123 wrote:
OMFG Jaedong is so sexy!!! Lolz at KTFlash and Jaedongoz fanboyism. Jaedong for the golden badge! ^_^

Fixed
In the woods, there lurks..
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
May 20 2010 13:59 GMT
#88
Apparently (Z)Jaedong thinks that (T)Flash will wipe the floor with (Z)EffOrt:
"Though (T)Flash is making a run for both league titles, I can’t Just leave him alone to do that. That's something I personally won't allow. Though I can't do anything about the OSL, with at least the MSL Where he'll be facing me, I refuse to give that up to him."
<=> "Yeah, the OSL is his this year, but I WILL NOT GIVE HIM THE MSL" :p
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 14:06:04
May 20 2010 14:01 GMT
#89
This has a lot of pages for an interview!
Reading...

Hmm this was a pretty conservative interview (so unlike that of EffOrt's when he beat Kal last week...)
Hmm Jaedong is cute.
:3
5pooling. What a baller.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 20 2010 14:03 GMT
#90
On May 20 2010 22:34 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 22:25 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Jaedong is better then FlaSh, at least in results. Lately FlaSh has been on an unbelievable tear, but Jaedong still has more SL's.

Also, I was pretty sure that 99.9% of the community believed that Jaedong had the poweroutage game completely won. FlaSh was mining from a min only, he most likely was getting low on money, and his push to disrupt Jaedongs 4th base when he was taking a 5th was pretty much deterred. It was over.

No, 99.9% of the community does not believe that. We've just stopped talking about it because it was getting tiresome.

The biggest blow of the power outage wasnt the game on odd eye which he lost. It was the mental fuckup he recieved after all his support was kicked out...
Jesus man, thought that was obvious and noone mentioned it...

And JD wouldve been as likely to win
In the woods, there lurks..
boxxyownz
Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
May 20 2010 14:07 GMT
#91
the flash fanboyism in this thread needs to be monitored, honestly nothing of value was said past 5 pages.
zzz
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 20 2010 14:13 GMT
#92
Oz fanboy is talking about KT fanboy.

I don't like it.

Can't say KT fanboy is biased Flash. And Oz Fanboy is not biased Jaedong.

That above statement is biased.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
May 20 2010 14:15 GMT
#93
Yay for JD. Now we can have JD vs FLash rematch.

And i agree with Romad if JD wins he will be the greatest player of all time. Flash fanboys give it a rest with the power outage cry that game JD was raping FLash hard and the whole series overall its just a stupid excuse why Flash got stomped hard.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 14:29:52
May 20 2010 14:26 GMT
#94
On May 20 2010 21:58 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 21:53 pvzvt wrote:
this argument is going nowhere
lets just try and figure out what makes a player to be the best
is it best winning records ? success in long term or short term
or just his odds in winning in a bo5 (the reason of a bo5 vs a bo1 is obvious - any pro can win vs any pro given enough games , hell even nal ra won flash granted nal ra rocks but lets be real )
if its by the bo5 standards cant see anyone disagreeing on jaedong
if its by the win rate - its flash i'll be the first to agree
long term success- jaedong
short term - flash
it all depends on what you consider the most important fact to conclude "best player"
since my tag is oz i'll stick to bo5 odds and long term success i'll let the kt flash guys to pick the other 2 may we have a great finals with no black outs

I've been arguing that Flash is better than JD over the past two seasons and in the past two seasons flash has been the best in the world unquestionablely. His elo is insane, his winrate is insane, he's made both finals in both seasons, hes got a better boX record
In carrers JD is better i'm not disputing that

i will agree that flash played better than JD on the last 2 seasons (much better ) but that is something else
yes he played better but!!!! and there is always a BUT when an oz fan is replying to a kt flash fan lol is he better than jaedong?,,,
i dont know he sure was more consistent ... right now flash is a complete player with no weaknesses if jaedong wins the msl finals again he will show he is complete as well since his zvz and zvp are up to par with flash tvz and tvp.
i'd say this if jaedong wins this msl final both players have no weaknesses flash more consistent but when played vs each other jaedong has the upper hand in big stages
would u agree on that at least ?

+ Show Spoiler +
and btw i have a big dick (just so the guy above me wont say there wasnt something new added since page 5)
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 20 2010 14:27 GMT
#95
if jd wins the finals, the thread will derail and easily hit 200 pages....

imho if jd wins the finals, it will depend on how he wins. if its a very close win 3-2 with good games and stuff or maybe jd getting lucky in a crucial situation, then i personally would still consider flash the better player atm (always given that he beats effort... not certain either, ofc. )
if jd dominated flash and wins 3-1 or even 3-0 with convincing wins, then i might consider jd the stronger player.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33667 Posts
May 20 2010 14:30 GMT
#96
whoa, (Z)Shine and (Z)RorO helped out JD? That's some pretty decent help! Can Shine get some love now please, from grateful JD fans?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 20 2010 14:37 GMT
#97
On May 20 2010 23:27 Black Gun wrote:
if jd wins the finals, the thread will derail and easily hit 200 pages....

imho if jd wins the finals, it will depend on how he wins. if its a very close win 3-2 with good games and stuff or maybe jd getting lucky in a crucial situation, then i personally would still consider flash the better player atm (always given that he beats effort... not certain either, ofc. )
if jd dominated flash and wins 3-1 or even 3-0 with convincing wins, then i might consider jd the stronger player.

Yeah I commented earlier that "this thread had a lot of comments for an interview."
And then I realized it wasn't about the interview itself, but as usual, it's between Flash fanboys and not-Flash fanboys (Jaedong fanboys I guess).

Recently, I went through and reread last year's NATE MSL finals thread. Sooooo much shit.
350 pages, in my opinion, if Jaedong wins. 250 if Flash wins.

On May 20 2010 23:30 Waxangel wrote:
whoa, (Z)Shine and (Z)RorO helped out JD? That's some pretty decent help! Can Shine get some love now please, from grateful JD fans?

I've always loved Shine :<
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
cocacolabuddy
Profile Joined January 2010
United States7 Posts
May 20 2010 14:46 GMT
#98
the strike of the evil POWER OUTAGE once again??? :/
haha
hopefully nott
its me
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
May 20 2010 14:49 GMT
#99
I don't really care who wins in the MSL Finals, but I just want to see some sick epic games!
Brood War loyalist
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
May 20 2010 14:50 GMT
#100
On May 20 2010 23:49 meegrean wrote:
I don't really care who wins in the MSL Finals, but I just want to see some sick epic games!


Exactly. As long as we see a epic finals, nobody loses. (kinda)
I post only when my brain works.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 11 12 13 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#92
PiGStarcraft387
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 244
Nina 58
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 9221
Leta 2228
Bale 381
Larva 298
Dewaltoss 188
Mind 120
ZergMaN 29
Icarus 7
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 823
Counter-Strike
summit1g9466
Coldzera 1591
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1151
C9.Mang0466
Mew2King49
Other Games
WinterStarcraft762
PiGStarcraft387
ViBE160
Maynarde133
Livibee118
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1313
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo939
• Stunt412
Other Games
• Scarra1729
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
5h 49m
Kung Fu Cup
6h 49m
Patches Events
11h 49m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
CrankTV Team League
1d 6h
OSC
1d 8h
OSC
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
Escore
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-28
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.