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HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
April 12 2010 15:17 GMT
#401
Esport is now real sport
cognizantfire
Profile Joined March 2010
Hong Kong77 Posts
April 12 2010 15:18 GMT
#402
It's quite hard to visualize Jaedong being involved in the scam though, every time he loses a game he looks absolutely disappointed and pissed at himself. He kind of loves winning too much...

Let's just hope the list "under investigation" is just a check on everyone, since according to Korean sites the list is only a small part of the whole, so I'm assuming they are checking on most matches to make sure.
Neobick
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden208 Posts
April 12 2010 15:18 GMT
#403
Why dont just play 3 years as a progamer and use the money you earn to study? Why do you need to be so fucking greedy and short-termish?
Use the force.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
April 12 2010 15:19 GMT
#404
On April 13 2010 00:18 cognizantfire wrote:
It's quite hard to visualize Jaedong being involved in the scam though, every time he loses a game he looks absolutely disappointed and pissed at himself. He kind of loves winning too much...

Let's just hope the list "under investigation" is just a check on everyone, since according to Korean sites the list is only a small part of the whole, so I'm assuming they are checking on most matches to make sure.



Maybe he's disgusted at what he's done? I doubt they felt good about throwing matches. I'd look worse if i threw a match than if i lost legitimately.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 12 2010 15:19 GMT
#405
On April 13 2010 00:18 Neobick wrote:
Why dont just play 3 years as a progamer and use the money you earn to study? Why do you need to be so fucking greedy and short-termish?

What are they going to study? Most of them barely have a chance to go to high school since they are practicing 8-12 hours a day even as a teenager.


Judging from those under suspicion, one has to think Flash was approached, and he outright refused. Good for him.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
April 12 2010 15:19 GMT
#406
On April 13 2010 00:18 Neobick wrote:
Why dont just play 3 years as a progamer and use the money you earn to study? Why do you need to be so fucking greedy and short-termish?


Short term thinkers -> oh shit money for gaming? -> pro - gamer

Long term thinkers -> eh waste of time -> something else

KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 15:22:59
April 12 2010 15:21 GMT
#407
On April 12 2010 22:03 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 21:57 SuperArc wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:56 F.A.O.D. wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


lmao yeah

and the winner should get reduced jail time


or a single cell.

Imagine the epic games we would get.

Okay punks, here's the rules. Champion doesn't get behind bars. All matches will be Bo3 until finals which will be a grueling Bo9. Who's up for this challenge?


Even though im really sad about the news the replies keeps making me laugh.
I really hope Starcraft won't end up like Warcraft 3 after that map rigging incident
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
April 12 2010 15:22 GMT
#408
All very interesting. Like I said in Rek's original thread, players involved need to be named and shamed. Otherwise the integrity of starcraft as an ESPORT is damaged irrevocably. It casts doubt over every single upset, every dramatic comeback, every slump. Just look at these threads, filled with speculation on every game with a somewhat unexpected result when we have very little to go on.

I was always amazed on the conditions the progamers put up with day in day out, makes me feel a bit stupid for not seeing this coming.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
April 12 2010 15:22 GMT
#409
On April 13 2010 00:21 KinosJourney2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2010 22:03 lolaloc wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:57 SuperArc wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:56 F.A.O.D. wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


lmao yeah

and the winner should get reduced jail time


or a single cell.

Imagine the epic games we would get.

Okay punks, here's the rules. Champion doesn't get behind bars. All matches will be Bo3 until finals which will be a grueling Bo9. Who's up for this challenge?


Even though im really sad about the news the replies keeps making me laugh.
I really hope Starcraft will end up like Warcraft 3 after that map rigging incident


What happened to war3 and map rigging for those who don't know?
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 15:24:07
April 12 2010 15:23 GMT
#410
Wow Luxury throwing games must be like a slap to Flash's face. How long has Flash had to carry KT but fail cause Luxury couldn't perform?

And now we see how Hyuk and Fantasy owned Jaedong in the Proleague Grandfinals. If it were Bisu and Jaedong it'd be a hilarious game of who is better at throwing games. (Come to think of it, why is it whenever we see Bisu vs. Jaedong one player makes a dumb mistake like forgets tech or hold position?)

+ Show Spoiler +
Of course I'm semi-joking. Hopefully this isn't true, but damn the chances of that are looking slimmer and slimmer.
StormsInJuly
Profile Joined January 2009
Sweden165 Posts
April 12 2010 15:23 GMT
#411
Idra vs nony in liquibition... i knew it....
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
April 12 2010 15:23 GMT
#412
On April 13 2010 00:22 Maynard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 00:21 KinosJourney2 wrote:
On April 12 2010 22:03 lolaloc wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:57 SuperArc wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:56 F.A.O.D. wrote:
On April 12 2010 21:50 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You know they should hold a special tournament for all everyone eventually convicted in a prison. I'd watch, there are some pretty good players in there.


lmao yeah

and the winner should get reduced jail time


or a single cell.

Imagine the epic games we would get.

Okay punks, here's the rules. Champion doesn't get behind bars. All matches will be Bo3 until finals which will be a grueling Bo9. Who's up for this challenge?


Even though im really sad about the news the replies keeps making me laugh.
I really hope Starcraft will end up like Warcraft 3 after that map rigging incident


What happened to war3 and map rigging for those who don't know?


Basically the player who benefited from the rigging quit and lots of people ignored warcraft 3. Can't remember all the details as it was in a Biggest Esports Scandals-thread or something.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
April 12 2010 15:24 GMT
#413
On April 13 2010 00:18 Neobick wrote:
Why dont just play 3 years as a progamer and use the money you earn to study? Why do you need to be so fucking greedy and short-termish?


If these people had that kind of foresight (or even those goals), they would not have chosen to become progamers in the first place.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
April 12 2010 15:25 GMT
#414
On April 13 2010 00:17 HubertFelix wrote:
Esport is now real sport

Nah, we need a Tiger Woods style sex scandal and a steroids scandal first. We are 1/3 of the way there now though.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
April 12 2010 15:25 GMT
#415
been said earlier but i would be willing to bet my coworker's virginity that JD isnt a part of this
hes got way too much emotion to bet against himself and lose
every loss he takes it looks likes he gonna jump off a bridge or shoot a pregnant woman
Forever Young
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
April 12 2010 15:26 GMT
#416
watch some of fbh and jangbi games, there is suspicion.
Floydian
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom374 Posts
April 12 2010 15:26 GMT
#417
On April 13 2010 00:10 Maynard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 00:07 Draconizard wrote:
On April 13 2010 00:01 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Fuck this. Corrupt motherfuckers always have to find a way into sports to fuck it up for everyone.
Why are so many people just bad people -_-


It is easy to take the moral high ground when one does not feel the pressure that these gamers do (short career life, extreme difficulty in reaching the top, lack of job prospects afterward). You'll find that most people's morals mean surprisingly little when actually put to the test. Don't be so quick to pass judgment.


They work oh so hard but receive oh so very little. In what other highly competitive field can you strive to be the absolute best, workin 70 hours a week for years, obtain the highest levels of competency, and be working as a parking garage attendant a few years after?


Out of interest who are you referring to here?
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
April 12 2010 15:27 GMT
#418
Savior, why are you such a pathetic looser?
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 15:28:20
April 12 2010 15:27 GMT
#419
On April 13 2010 00:18 Neobick wrote:
Why dont just play 3 years as a progamer and use the money you earn to study? Why do you need to be so fucking greedy and short-termish?


Yeah because we know that every progamer makes millions playing Starcraft.

Why oh why won't you practice 10 hours a day for 3 years and most likely don't make any real bank.

lol what a retarded post no offence
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 15:34:19
April 12 2010 15:29 GMT
#420
On April 13 2010 00:26 Floydian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 00:10 Maynard wrote:
On April 13 2010 00:07 Draconizard wrote:
On April 13 2010 00:01 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Fuck this. Corrupt motherfuckers always have to find a way into sports to fuck it up for everyone.
Why are so many people just bad people -_-


It is easy to take the moral high ground when one does not feel the pressure that these gamers do (short career life, extreme difficulty in reaching the top, lack of job prospects afterward). You'll find that most people's morals mean surprisingly little when actually put to the test. Don't be so quick to pass judgment.


They work oh so hard but receive oh so very little. In what other highly competitive field can you strive to be the absolute best, workin 70 hours a week for years, obtain the highest levels of competency, and be working as a parking garage attendant a few years after?


Out of interest who are you referring to here?


No one in particular. Just speaking the truth about what these guys are going to face. So in that respect everyone.
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