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plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
March 06 2010 23:14 GMT
#41
What was it Rekrul called it again?

Path of night?
Savior broke my heart ;_; || twitch.tv/onnings
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
March 06 2010 23:20 GMT
#42
On March 07 2010 08:14 plated.rawr wrote:
What was it Rekrul called it again?

Path of night?


Path of Rekrul
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
March 06 2010 23:21 GMT
#43
Stork has outlived Bisu - long live the Stork!
muta_micro
Profile Joined February 2010
United States183 Posts
March 06 2010 23:37 GMT
#44
Maybe it's overconfidence. He just assumes he will win against average players and doesn't really prepare mentally or play his best. I don't know I'm just taking a guess, but I'm certainly happy that he's doing as bad as he is. He deserves it for what he did to Savior.
You know when you see a planet and you see that light, that planet isn't even there thats just a light, that's just your neighbor shining a flashlight into your backyard looking for coons.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 06 2010 23:42 GMT
#45
Bisu still have his mechanics and everything. But his decision making and game sense have been down by SO much. He needs to be more 'ballsy' like the game of his vs Yarnc, he need to harass like crazy instead of playing standard. And this:
On March 07 2010 08:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Stork has outlived Bisu - long live the Stork!

2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 23:48:16
March 06 2010 23:46 GMT
#46
On March 07 2010 08:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Stork has outlived Bisu - long live the Stork!



I can't say I'm glad that Bisu has fallen to mediocre... I really hate seeing anyone go from good to bad...but I'm too sympathetic, I guess.



but man, all those BISU OMG <333<3<3 threads were so annoying back when he was dominating...at least they're gone >>



go Stork!
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 06 2010 23:59 GMT
#47
Guys, predictability or not, he's just been playing sloppy and effortless. That's basically all, he's in a slump, maybe he just gave up or doesn't feel like playing. SKT1 need a really strong zerg and protoss player now, or they will be sh it deep soon.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
pikaaarrr :3
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States593 Posts
March 07 2010 00:03 GMT
#48
Bisu got tired from tapping Han Seung Yeon

:3
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
March 07 2010 00:10 GMT
#49
Simply put: Bisu has been figured out. No longer does he win the extra 10% of his games just because of build orders. He also isn't in top shape anymore, therefor is no longer a starcraft-god with 70%+ but a mere mortal with ~60%.
Rothbardian
Profile Joined January 2010
United States497 Posts
March 07 2010 00:27 GMT
#50
How is it that someone can dominate pro-sports around the world for 15-20 years (ala, Cal Ripken, Michael Jordan, Dan Marino, etc.), yet, the top players in SC only last for a few years at most.

In the former cases, their sport is far more demanding. The difference is the training and lifestyle regiments. SC players have little to no freedom. Anyone doing the same thing 14-16 hours a day 6-7 days a week for years will get burnt out. It's sort of sad, really. There is literally no need to play that much. If the player wants to, then they'll play on their off-time, much like many pro-players today train year round. However mandating that strict regiment to everyone is debilitating.

I doubt this will change in Korea, hence why I am hopeful that SC II will be picked up in NA and EU and become as major a sport as it is in S.Korea.

Is this what has happened to Bisu? Most likely. Can anyone honestly tell me that it is harder to play SC than it is to play professional Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey?

I hope Korea changes the way they treat their players ;/
"A tax-supported, compulsory educational system is the complete model of the totalitarian state." - Isabel Paterson <3
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
March 07 2010 00:33 GMT
#51
I am baffled by the people claiming to know about Bisu's mindset. "Oh, it's his mindset!" or "He's struggling to find motivation!". Seriously? None of you guys have a clue as to what he is thinking or going through, because you don't KNOW HIM. I do not following the Korean SCBW scene, but I know for a fact that everyone who has posted comments like the ones I referred to... have never even spoken with the guy. You're basing your comments off an interview every 6 months and watching him play.

The people actually commenting on his play and what IN GAME is causing him to lose are spot on. The people commenting about his mindset entering games... you are just using a filler excuse to explain something you lack information about.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
March 07 2010 00:33 GMT
#52
On March 07 2010 09:27 Rothbardian wrote:
How is it that someone can dominate pro-sports around the world for 15-20 years (ala, Cal Ripken, Michael Jordan, Dan Marino, etc.), yet, the top players in SC only last for a few years at most.

In the former cases, their sport is far more demanding. The difference is the training and lifestyle regiments. SC players have little to no freedom. Anyone doing the same thing 14-16 hours a day 6-7 days a week for years will get burnt out. It's sort of sad, really. There is literally no need to play that much. If the player wants to, then they'll play on their off-time, much like many pro-players today train year round. However mandating that strict regiment to everyone is debilitating.

I doubt this will change in Korea, hence why I am hopeful that SC II will be picked up in NA and EU and become as major a sport as it is in S.Korea.

Is this what has happened to Bisu? Most likely. Can anyone honestly tell me that it is harder to play SC than it is to play professional Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey?

I hope Korea changes the way they treat their players ;/

Somehow I don't think Bisu's slump is due to being overworked. Probably the opposite actually.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 07 2010 00:37 GMT
#53
On March 07 2010 09:27 Rothbardian wrote:
How is it that someone can dominate pro-sports around the world for 15-20 years (ala, Cal Ripken, Michael Jordan, Dan Marino, etc.), yet, the top players in SC only last for a few years at most.

In the former cases, their sport is far more demanding. The difference is the training and lifestyle regiments. SC players have little to no freedom. Anyone doing the same thing 14-16 hours a day 6-7 days a week for years will get burnt out. It's sort of sad, really. There is literally no need to play that much. If the player wants to, then they'll play on their off-time, much like many pro-players today train year round. However mandating that strict regiment to everyone is debilitating.

I doubt this will change in Korea, hence why I am hopeful that SC II will be picked up in NA and EU and become as major a sport as it is in S.Korea.

Is this what has happened to Bisu? Most likely. Can anyone honestly tell me that it is harder to play SC than it is to play professional Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey?

I hope Korea changes the way they treat their players ;/


I'm pretty sure Bisu was a dominating player because he was one of the hardest working ones
And all is illuminated.
GeMicles
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada307 Posts
March 07 2010 00:37 GMT
#54
too hot for starcraft
i pikachu in the shower
icometowin
Profile Joined September 2009
New Zealand41 Posts
March 07 2010 00:41 GMT
#55
If you watch his recent games, they truly show standard, safe and robotic play, nothing like how Bisu truly played during his peak. PLaying super-safe against go.go was his doom. In game 1, he could have gone for a DT drop, reavers. All of this would have punished the super-greedy build go.go used (was it 1 fact double expand?). He needs to show more ballsy play; harassing in multiple fronts like he did vs Yarnc.
icometowin...literally.
zee
Profile Joined January 2010
201 Posts
March 07 2010 00:54 GMT
#56
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icometowin
Profile Joined September 2009
New Zealand41 Posts
March 07 2010 00:57 GMT
#57
On March 07 2010 09:41 icometowin wrote:
If you watch his recent games, they truly show standard, safe and robotic play, nothing like how Bisu truly played during his peak. PLaying super-safe against go.go was his doom. In game 1, he could have gone for a DT drop, reavers. All of this would have punished the super-greedy build go.go used (was it 1 fact double expand?). He needs to show more ballsy play; harassing in multiple fronts like he did vs Yarnc.

Wow, that loss must've really borken his confidence. I wouldnt be suprised if his slump goes on for ages
icometowin...literally.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
March 07 2010 01:15 GMT
#58
On March 06 2010 15:52 JohnColtrane wrote:
too many visits to the bathhouse


lmao
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
March 07 2010 01:16 GMT
#59
On March 06 2010 16:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
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nostalgia ftw...
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
March 07 2010 01:55 GMT
#60
On March 07 2010 09:37 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2010 09:27 Rothbardian wrote:
How is it that someone can dominate pro-sports around the world for 15-20 years (ala, Cal Ripken, Michael Jordan, Dan Marino, etc.), yet, the top players in SC only last for a few years at most.

In the former cases, their sport is far more demanding. The difference is the training and lifestyle regiments. SC players have little to no freedom. Anyone doing the same thing 14-16 hours a day 6-7 days a week for years will get burnt out. It's sort of sad, really. There is literally no need to play that much. If the player wants to, then they'll play on their off-time, much like many pro-players today train year round. However mandating that strict regiment to everyone is debilitating.

I doubt this will change in Korea, hence why I am hopeful that SC II will be picked up in NA and EU and become as major a sport as it is in S.Korea.

Is this what has happened to Bisu? Most likely. Can anyone honestly tell me that it is harder to play SC than it is to play professional Soccer, Football, Baseball, Hockey?

I hope Korea changes the way they treat their players ;/


I'm pretty sure Bisu was a dominating player because he was one of the hardest working ones


Humm, always seemed the opposite to me.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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