• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:20
CEST 13:20
KST 20:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202559RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings What tournaments are world championships? RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Post Pic of your Favorite Food! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 853 users

[Spoilers] The 'Flash' Pop-up - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 10:26:29
January 16 2010 10:26 GMT
#21
If they had waited for Kal to gg, the effect wouldnt have been the same.

On January 16 2010 19:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
it was over, kal just didnt gg yet

yeah, this
beep boop
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
January 16 2010 10:27 GMT
#22
On January 16 2010 19:10 Niton wrote:
Dude, It's Just A Game.™

Koreans treat SC as a sport, along with soccer, baseball etc. Imo that pop-up was unnecessary, considering that Kal was still in the game, as people have already mentioned.
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 16 2010 10:28 GMT
#23
Kal is progamer and im pretty damn sure he knew he had no chance at comig back when teh message came up.

and its jd vs flash

msl can hype it all they want.
Breaking Bad
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
January 16 2010 10:32 GMT
#24
Wrestling is a joke because it's scripted. The hype aspect of wrestling is important to get viewers and pretty standard. They can emulate the good bits of wrestling without it becoming a joke. As long as the games aren't fixed I'm happy.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 16 2010 10:32 GMT
#25
MSL got the final they wanted, and they are going to hype it even if it means being rude to Kal, I guess.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
January 16 2010 10:33 GMT
#26
Well they probably would've shown that as well if it were jaedong being on the verge of losing the series. I think if anything it was more a testament to the seemingly omniscient, ominous power of Flash.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 16 2010 10:36 GMT
#27
Just think about the poor finals that poor mbc got the last two times... kwanro vs calm... luxury vs jangbi... finally they get some serious fucking starpower
beep boop
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 16 2010 10:39 GMT
#28
On January 16 2010 19:33 PanoRaMa wrote:
Well they probably would've shown that as well if it were jaedong being on the verge of losing the series. I think if anything it was more a testament to the seemingly omniscient, ominous power of Flash.


I agree with this and also Kwark's post . I think they more highlighted Flash then anything , because either Flash vs Jaedong or Flash vs Kal would have been an awesome finals .
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 16 2010 10:41 GMT
#29
It's this kind of stuff that separates the MSL from the OSL. One projects an image of professionalism and does it so well that it doesn't have to do stupid stunts like these to hype up their events. The other resorts to lame attempts to prop up their own tournament while directly impeding the quality of games they broadcast.

MBC has been engineering their tournament towards this point for the last few seasons, and now that they have the huge matchup that their executives have been demanding and that everyone wants to see they could at least try to maintain some semblance of professionalism.
Moderator
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
January 16 2010 10:42 GMT
#30
It was weird, but also sooo much funnyyyyy

I wouldnt compare this "drama" thing like a WWE show or similar, it just make the MSL FINALS HYPE so much INTENSE
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-16 10:44:46
January 16 2010 10:43 GMT
#31
At first I thought it was only on Roffles' stream too. (I had ferron on, but when i checked back to see if its there, it disappeared)

I think it is rude and unacceptable, and as people have pointed out before, similar to offensive gging.
(even though it didnt say Jaedong vs Flash is coming, but implied that the series was over, which at 2-0 and JD winning is very similar)

edit:
for all the people saying that "it was over, just Kal didnt gg yet": Do you often say offensive gg? Don't you see what's the problem with that?
BW fighting!
Rebel_lion
Profile Joined January 2009
United States271 Posts
January 16 2010 10:44 GMT
#32
The big deal here is that flash and jaedong will meet in the finals.

tell the world. AT ALL COSTS
Something witty here....
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 16 2010 10:44 GMT
#33
i just thuoght it was hella funny haha
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 16 2010 10:44 GMT
#34
On January 16 2010 19:27 roMAD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 19:10 Niton wrote:
Dude, It's Just A Game.™

Koreans treat SC as a sport, along with soccer, baseball etc. Imo that pop-up was unnecessary, considering that Kal was still in the game, as people have already mentioned.


To me, it's along the same lines of what you see in the playoffs in baseball - if a team is looking to close out a series, once the final game is fairly well decided, they'll start talking as though the winning team has already won. They look stupid if the opposing team rallies and takes the game/series, but I think it was intended as more of a gesture along those lines.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 16 2010 10:51 GMT
#35
On January 16 2010 19:44 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2010 19:27 roMAD wrote:
On January 16 2010 19:10 Niton wrote:
Dude, It's Just A Game.™

Koreans treat SC as a sport, along with soccer, baseball etc. Imo that pop-up was unnecessary, considering that Kal was still in the game, as people have already mentioned.


To me, it's along the same lines of what you see in the playoffs in baseball - if a team is looking to close out a series, once the final game is fairly well decided, they'll start talking as though the winning team has already won. They look stupid if the opposing team rallies and takes the game/series, but I think it was intended as more of a gesture along those lines.

True, but the commentators never actually impede with your own viewing of the game that is being played at that moment. They don't overlay some cheesy image that makes it difficult to tell if that last pitch was a ball or a strike. Anything that detracts with the enjoyment of what is currently going on in the game is going too far.
Moderator
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 16 2010 10:52 GMT
#36
On January 16 2010 19:43 538 wrote:
At first I thought it was only on Roffles' stream too. (I had ferron on, but when i checked back to see if its there, it disappeared)

I think it is rude and unacceptable, and as people have pointed out before, similar to offensive gging.
(even though it didnt say Jaedong vs Flash is coming, but implied that the series was over, which at 2-0 and JD winning is very similar)

edit:
for all the people saying that "it was over, just Kal didnt gg yet": Do you often say offensive gg? Don't you see what's the problem with that?


I can see how fans of kal must have been annoyed but it's not the same because it's not like kal was aware that they showed it
beep boop
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
January 16 2010 10:53 GMT
#37
Wondering what Kal and JD will say about this
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 16 2010 10:53 GMT
#38
I noticed it, and almost immediately thought of something along the lines of the drama, like walking out during their games and pointing at them as if to say "you're going down next" or something dramatic to add spectacle or more drama to their games, for the fans mostly.

unfortunate that the Koreans are responding to it harshly. i'm not saying it was a correct/smart thing to do, but i wouldn't look down on it.. I mean.. it's pretty much their sport and they've fostered it to this stage and prolly many more stages in years to come. I personally thought it was silly, but i noticed it, after Kal tried to attack Jaedongs bottom left base, and JD had sooo much defense, Kal pulled out, yet was still flanked by JD's support troops, many lings and lurkers and all of 'em were spread perfectly for v storms.. and right then I thought he'd gg pretty soon. So ya, it did seem 1 sided or pretty much over at that time, which might have prompted the screen.. but y'know.. its almost like the offensive gg, like Jaedong typing to Kal 'gg' at that moment, and Koreans prolly woulda responded the same.. It was like, assuming at that moment that the game was over and no point to play anymore.

Props to Kal though, he did do pretty well from that point on, and had a pretty good comeback move etc.
However, didn't the Koreans try soemthing like this earlier, in leagues? Where the seeded players chose who they wanted to be in their groups.. and got to say a little catch phrase or something? Like Nada chose july or something, because he wanted revenge.. and Nal_rA chose Kingdom or something.. etc. etc.
I think they've tried to spice up the scene with drama and theatrics like that, but they're just too calm and disciplined and mannered of a culture to add that "shit-talking" aspect like professional wrestling.. which is just soo painfully aweful and fake ..
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 16 2010 10:54 GMT
#39
It always annoys me how elitist people can be about the dumbest things

Even amongst SC fans it has to be "OSL is more professional MSL sucks" blah blah

It's the match of the decade, the biggest final in 3 years, everyone wanted it, and it's not going to hinder e-sports' development so what's the big deal.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
January 16 2010 10:55 GMT
#40
i found it freaking awesome tbh

lol ^^
hatred outlives the hateful
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Esports World Cup
11:00
2025 - Final Day
Serral vs CureLIVE!
Solar vs Classic
ComeBackTV 2122
Hui .445
TaKeTV 420
Fuzer 326
3DClanTV 276
Rex183
JimRising 120
CranKy Ducklings105
Reynor84
BRAT_OK 56
SpeCial16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .445
Fuzer 326
Rex 183
JimRising 120
Reynor 84
ProTech69
BRAT_OK 56
SpeCial 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 10255
Nal_rA 1993
Shuttle 1985
Larva 624
Bisu 589
BeSt 452
Barracks 401
Stork 286
EffOrt 272
actioN 259
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 240
TY 170
Soulkey 150
Soma 139
Snow 131
Dewaltoss 130
ggaemo 121
Hyun 111
Mini 77
Rush 70
ZerO 70
sorry 69
JulyZerg 65
Backho 57
Sharp 30
sSak 24
Icarus 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
soO 11
Shinee 10
Dota 2
XcaliburYe228
Gorgc194
Counter-Strike
allub195
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor78
Other Games
gofns3913
singsing1859
Beastyqt632
B2W.Neo593
ArmadaUGS89
QueenE53
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV313
League of Legends
• Nemesis2588
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 40m
CranKy Ducklings
22h 40m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 2h
CSO Cup
1d 4h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 6h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
1d 21h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Online Event
4 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.