EPTall the more reason to love that guy (my favourite MBC caster)
[Spoilers] The 'Flash' Pop-up - Page 10
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konadora
Singapore66363 Posts
all the more reason to love that guy (my favourite MBC caster) | ||
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PanoRaMa
United States5070 Posts
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GTR
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On January 17 2010 15:28 konadora wrote: i think it was at the point when Kal was going for one last hanbang push I'll check later Edit: Oh okay it was when Kal's army that attacked 7 was destroyed, although Kal was on 3 bases at that point of time. I would call that questionable timing. Obviously 'Flash's statement' was directed to Jaedong at that point, but that's completely arbitrary. | ||
Waxangel
United States33627 Posts
oh nm it's like all three of them equally now that I listen again T_T I kind of want to make that my cell phone alarm sound now | ||
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GTR
51613 Posts
On January 17 2010 16:11 Waxangel wrote: plaguuu was mostly rookie and mr. kim chul min :O i'm pretty sure he was the one who informed everyone. unfortunately (or fortunately?) he did it in a very strange and exciting manner. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66363 Posts
On January 17 2010 16:11 Waxangel wrote: I kind of want to make that my cell phone alarm sound now http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/konadora/PLAYGU.mp3 | ||
Smix
United States4549 Posts
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gnr9292
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
if my phone wasn't such a dinosaur i would have that as my ring tone  | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
i don't know why so much hate... maybe it's because they are not opened for jokes like that... who will ever understand the koreans  | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On January 17 2010 02:42 Crunchums wrote: The changes made perfect sense (except for splitting series) - every sport with a playoff system has brackets based on seeding. IMO it's the OSL that's being stupid for NOT doing this and now they're paying for it by having Flash vs Movie instead of Flash vs Jaedong. Hopefully they will fix this soon. This. I was going to say something similiar. It makes no sense at all to have top players eliminating each other early on in tournaments. Just adds an unnecessary "luck" factor to the players and is a pain in the arse for fans who want to see the best duke it out towards the latter stages of a tournament. Everyone is a little sad when a "Group Of Death" includes 3 top players and only 2 can advance. Sucked seeing Effort knocked out of the Calm/Effort/Shine/Fantasy group | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On January 18 2010 16:55 InClass wrote: This. I was going to say something similiar. It makes no sense at all to have top players eliminating each other early on in tournaments. Just adds an unnecessary "luck" factor to the players and is a pain in the arse for fans who want to see the best duke it out towards the latter stages of a tournament. Everyone is a little sad when a "Group Of Death" includes 3 top players and only 2 can advance. Sucked seeing Effort knocked out of the Calm/Effort/Shine/Fantasy group Does the Australian Open reseed the players once it gets to the quarterfinals? Does the World Cup reseed each remaining team in the quarterfinal stage of the playoffs? It would be one thing if the MSL seeded the players at the Ro16 stage, but doing it when there's only two rounds left before the final is just beyond stupid. I can understand people defending the stunt MBC pulled. But the way they changed how their playoff system works is indefensible in my mind. I can't think of a single other competition that reseeds players/teams after a playoff has already began. | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
On January 18 2010 18:42 p4NDemik wrote: I can understand people defending the stunt MBC pulled. But the way they changed how their playoff system works is indefensible in my mind. I can't think of a single other competition that reseeds players/teams after a playoff has already began. the NHL reseeds after each round. and their system is going to bring us flash vs jaedong...how can you be upset? | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
I am not saying OSL is not heavily profit/business driven nowdays, but its roots are a lot more pure. And thats why I always think of it as more prestigous. Also in my view, the amount of games MSL holds compared to OSL takes away from MSL's prestige/hype in comparison and just further adds to my perception of MSL as a moneygrab. Although this stunt may not been that big of an issue, but an issue is an issue. And this issue just further solidfied my beliefs of OSL>>>MSL in my mind and in many other fans as well in terms of prestige and the competitve hype/feeling. The OSL does seed, but it seeds mostly based on OSL performance which is perfectly fine. On January 18 2010 18:50 esla_sol wrote: the NHL reseeds after each round. and their system is going to bring us flash vs jaedong...how can you be upset? The NHL doesn't change the seeds to rigg the brackets for the hopes of a biger finals. I can be real upset if they purposly changed the system just so they could increase chances of a Flash JD final. That kind of thing would be real unethical. But if it is truly all by chance, I'm cool with it. Kinda off topic, but I find Kespa to be also a profit driven organization. In other sports, the governing body usually always work to provide fair/good conditions for its players and they are paid to do so. Kespa seems to provide conditions nessary for them to get paid more. | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
On January 19 2010 05:43 lone_hydra wrote: The NHL doesn't change the seeds to rigg the brackets for the hopes of a biger finals. I can be real upset if they purposly changed the system just so they could increase chances of a Flash JD final. That kind of thing would be real unethical. But if it is truly all by chance, I'm cool with it. Kinda off topic, but I find Kespa to be also a profit driven organization. In other sports, the governing body usually always work to provide fair/good conditions for its players and they are paid to do so. Kespa seems to provide conditions nessary for them to get paid more. you mean a company wants to make money? considering the great product they give, i think they are allowed. jaedong and flash are #1 and 2 in kespa..wouldnt normal brackets have them on opposite sides? the whole purpose of seeds is to make it so the best players play each other in the final rounds. | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
No sports league goes out of their way to NOT seed players as ridiculously as OSL does. It's really stupid to have a ranking system if it's basically not used for seeding. In the NBA/NFL/MLB/NHL there's a regular season used for seeding, and in other sports that more similar in structure to SC, they use rank (such as in tennis). So yes maybe MBC is dumb to reseed at RO8 instead of RO16 but at least they got a little closer to getting it right now (and are rewarded with this finals) while the OSL has been the dumbest of all. Yeah OSL is the most prestigious and it always will be, that's nice. But there's a reason why it has so many more fluke winners while the MSL has been the "Jungle of the Strong" (especially when it had double elim). | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On January 19 2010 06:47 esla_sol wrote: you mean a company wants to make money? considering the great product they give, i think they are allowed. jaedong and flash are #1 and 2 in kespa..wouldnt normal brackets have them on opposite sides? the whole purpose of seeds is to make it so the best players play each other in the final rounds. There are many ways to seed a player. You can seed them based on Kespa, MSL performance, and what not. Changing the way to seed a player to purposely make it so 2 popular players face each other in the finals to improve ratings is not ethical. That is unfair to other players. I am not accusing them of doing so, I'm just saying that if they did, it would be unethical. I don't know exactly what you meant when you sarcastically asked me if a company wants to make money. If you are talking about my remarks about Kespa, yes they are allowed to, but it just does not feel right. Other governing bodies in other sports are provided payment to make a good environment for the players and for good competition. It just seems to me Kespa, the governing body of e-sports, is creating an environment for profit first, and players second. A good government works for the people and are paid for it, a bad government works to make money off the people. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On January 19 2010 10:36 lone_hydra wrote: There are many ways to seed a player. You can seed them based on Kespa, MSL performance, and what not. Changing the way to seed a player to purposely make it so 2 popular players face each other in the finals to improve ratings is not ethical. That is unfair to other players. I am not accusing them of doing so, I'm just saying that if they did, it would be unethical. If it were popular players, Shine would be in every game.. It's the 2 BEST players | ||
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