• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:34
CET 01:34
KST 09:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13062 users

MSL Re-organization

Forum Index > BW General
124 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 05:27:46
May 29 2009 05:17 GMT
#1
Ro32
1.) Ro32 will adopt the format of MST which is first two games and the winners' game are separated from the losers' game and the final game of each group.

2.) Players who score 0-2 in Ro32 will drop directly to Internet cafe preliminary next season.

3.) Spots of MST from Internet cafe preliminary will cut from 24 to 20.

4.) The player with the highest KeSPA ranking of each team will get a free access to MST. (If the No.1 player of a team has already made into MST or MSL, I guess the No.2 player will take the spot.)

Ro8
1.) Ro8 bo5 games will be separated into two parts as well. e.g.

Match day 1
A vs. B game 1
C vs. D game 1
E vs. F game 1
G vs. H game 1

Match day 2
A vs. B game 2~5
C vs. D game 2~5

Match day 3
E vs. F game 2~5
G vs. H game 2~5

2.) The matchup of Ro8 will be decided by KeSPA rankings, e.g. No.1 vs No.8, No.2 vs No.7 etc.

Source: Fomos


I'd say....these are really really weird changes. KeSPA go hell! I hate the idea of cutting preliminary spots and giving free MST access. New players have less chances.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
May 29 2009 05:19 GMT
#2
Furthering the ideal that OSL is the more formal of the 2.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
May 29 2009 05:19 GMT
#3
MSL changes its system like every other tournament.
I will eat you alive
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51570 Posts
May 29 2009 05:20 GMT
#4
way to weird things even more, mbc.
Commentator
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 29 2009 05:20 GMT
#5
Splitting up bo5s is one of the worst ideas I've seen in a while. This makes no sense at all.
GANDHISAUCE
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
May 29 2009 05:21 GMT
#6
Furthering the ideal that OSL is the more formal of the 2.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
May 29 2009 05:21 GMT
#7
sounds like complicating stuff for no reason
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
May 29 2009 05:22 GMT
#8
On May 29 2009 14:17 Emlary wrote:
4.) The player with the highest KeSPA ranking of each team will get a free access to MST. (If the No.1 player of a team has already made into MST or MSL, I guess the No.2 player will take the spot.).

I like this one.
Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
May 29 2009 05:25 GMT
#9
Splitting the Ro8 Bo5 into two parts is silly
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 29 2009 05:25 GMT
#10
What is this crap? Seriously? Each team gets one free MST spot? Make them earn it.

Part of what makes championships special is knowing players had to endure the gauntlet that is the Offline Prelims. Take Luxury for example: he went from the Prelims all the way up to MSL champion. This is just some absolute garbage attempt to make KeSPA ranking relevant. Fuck that. This isn't American College Football and the BCS.
Moderator
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
May 29 2009 05:25 GMT
#11
WTF... game 1 on 1 day, then 2-5 on another? Why the fuck not have 5 games on a day instead of just 4?

I guess they're trying to avoid having the big finale of the series be just 1 game (if they did game 1/2 first and then 3-5), but.... 2-5 is just WTF
aka Moletrap
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51570 Posts
May 29 2009 05:28 GMT
#12
i initially resented the osl's decision to scrap the ODT/OSC and integrate them into the OSL (and subseqeuently the ro36 format), but now I like it (they changed it because it made following the OSL easier or something).

this though, i don't think i'll ever like.
Commentator
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
May 29 2009 05:31 GMT
#13
p4nDemik pretty much summed up my thoughts.

Thanks for the news.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
May 29 2009 05:32 GMT
#14
1. Meh, I prefer the old format, but not a huge difference

2. I think this is too harsh

3. okay

4. whaaaaat?! really?! What a terrible idea, especially if the byes rollover to the next person

New Ro8: what. Why?! argh. I liked the old MSL format, this is garbage.
Liquipedia
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 05:36:04
May 29 2009 05:33 GMT
#15
Meh, looks cool to me.Hey, whatever they feel can make money. And after all, people do want to see stars. Why not give them a free pass into the MST.

The schedule change implies that apparently, no one wants to watch the same people over and over. So the entire plan is to have more people appear on TV on any given night. I like it, mainly because this favors Khan players who seem to be better when given preparation.
Meh
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
May 29 2009 05:34 GMT
#16
I guess we'll see what 4 does as a couple seasons pass, but I have a feeling it's gonna get scrapped after only one...

At least we'll see an ACE person in MSL
TranslatorBaa!
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
May 29 2009 05:35 GMT
#17
Just do well in PL and OSL then you will get a free MSL ticket

Btw, the new MSL opening is on the way. Some random pictures from the shooting scenario.

[image loading]


[image loading]
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 05:38:35
May 29 2009 05:36 GMT
#18
fuck...splitting up Bo5s now????????

uyghhhhhhh

and wait...round of EIGHT matches are determined by KeSPA rank? That means there will be no bracket........
✌
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
May 29 2009 05:38 GMT
#19
this is ugly and terrible

i hate the mst format and was hoping they wouldnt do it for the actual msl
im gay
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
May 29 2009 05:41 GMT
#20
On May 29 2009 14:33 baubo wrote:
Meh, looks cool to me.Hey, whatever they feel can make money. And after all, people do want to see stars. Why not give them a free pass into the MST.

You say this now, but don't come complaining when a slumping veteran (I'm looking at you sAviOr) plays like absolute refuse in the next MST and basically wastes a spot that could have been used by an upstart youngster who actually has refreshing/interesting play. This move stinks so badly they're going to have to pass out respirators at the next MST. Any time some organization takes important decisions out of the hands of the players it is a bad day for the game/sport/whatever.
Moderator
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S22 - Ladder Tour #3
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft597
ProTech139
SpeCial 112
RuFF_SC2 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 565
ggaemo 81
Dota 2
monkeys_forever251
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe327
Other Games
summit1g11610
ArmadaUGS258
C9.Mang0243
ViBE57
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV61
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 75
• davetesta32
• musti20045 30
• HeavenSC 24
• Airneanach16
• Adnapsc2 15
• intothetv
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• tFFMrPink 9
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
9h 27m
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
11h 27m
BSL
18h 27m
Replay Cast
23h 27m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
OSC
1d 23h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-27
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.