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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 09 2010 10:05 GMT
#141
Being a dragon is not for rookie imo. Stats is pretty good but he hasn't enough the experience and the reputation for being a Dragon. Pure is pretty good but unstable in PvZ and even in PvT.
Guemchi is just no a dragon.
If Movie win the OSL and continue to be in fire maybe we can considerate him as a dragon but for the moment I think it's a little early.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 10:11:12
January 09 2010 10:09 GMT
#142
Roffles did not want to exclude Bisu from being a dragon. It's just unfortunate that Bisu didn't not meet any of the criteria that Roffles listed. Considering that 10 protoss players met that criteria, it's pretty obvious that Bisu is not an elite protoss player. If Roffles named Bisu a dragon by making a exception, it would be arbitrary and stupid. You earn the title of being a dragon by your accomplishments as a protoss player, not by the # of fans that you have.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 09 2010 10:17 GMT
#143
I completely disagree. Ro16 MSL/OSL can't even be compared with >65% winrate or great achievements.
SKT1!
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 09 2010 10:20 GMT
#144
The criteria you listed are pretty silly. Maybe next time you'll use standard ranking systems instead of inventing your own to troll the community with an anti-bisu post. Kk.
Writer
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 09 2010 10:20 GMT
#145
On January 09 2010 10:00 Roffles wrote:
Must currently be within 90 points of their ELO peak


there are many protoss players that are within 90 points of their ELO peak

the more i think about this thread, the more i start to believe you're trolling
( ・´ー・`)
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 09 2010 10:21 GMT
#146
On January 09 2010 19:17 bitchaRd[raGe] wrote:
I completely disagree. Ro16 MSL/OSL can't even be compared with >65% winrate or great achievements.

Who cares? Either way, Bisu is out of the dragon club kekeke.
GANDHISAUCE
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 09 2010 10:22 GMT
#147
+ Show Spoiler +
after seeing stats getting absolutely massacred by jaedong in the msl ro8, i really wonder how any sane person could think he was a better player than bisu, even when considering bisus recent underperformance....
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
preacha
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway210 Posts
January 09 2010 10:45 GMT
#148
lol. best thread ever!
dont pet a burning dog
FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
January 09 2010 10:45 GMT
#149
Black Gun nobody said stats > bisu, just that stats is dragon status and bisu is not. Maybe if bisu can pick himself up and start winning again in the proleagues then he will be a dragon again. For now he has to satisfy himself with being SKT's top protoss. BiSu #1 Komodo!
platinum? more like leaf
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 09 2010 10:48 GMT
#150
Of course, this still begs the question:

What prompted this trolling? Was it something someone said or did in an LR thread?

Part of the reason I believed at first--it was entirely un-premeditated.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 09 2010 10:59 GMT
#151
Slain dragon LOL
good one roffles.
Sullifam
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
January 09 2010 11:12 GMT
#152
Is this really that clever? I guess it requires reading comments. At least backho has been mentioned, the actual 7th dragon robbed of recognition.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 09 2010 11:40 GMT
#153
I find the most hilarious statistic "within 90 elo of their all time high," which Bisu only hasn't reached because his all time is the second best and was the best for nearly a year, until Flash trounced it.

He's not qualified for dragonship, despite being #3 in Elo overall, dwarfing every protoss not named Kal and Stork? pshhhhhhhhhhh
Remember Violet.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 09 2010 12:20 GMT
#154
Oh, and Violet has lost to cuteangel, in the stx masters. It was pretty convincing as well. Kal has also surely lost to him in practice before.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
January 09 2010 12:38 GMT
#155
This thread made me laugh 10/10!
Freedom is a stranger
isbunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden1017 Posts
January 09 2010 12:49 GMT
#156
On January 09 2010 10:21 lac29 wrote:
Those are really arbitrary requirements ...

KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING!
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
January 09 2010 12:54 GMT
#157
ro 16 thing is just so stupid that have to call the whole idea stupid.

there are no dragons left, just "good protoss" and "better protoss"
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 12:56:46
January 09 2010 12:56 GMT
#158
there is no accurate dragon-list without backho. sry. so your list is wrong.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
January 09 2010 13:09 GMT
#159
rofl, slain dragon bisu
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 13:33:22
January 09 2010 13:29 GMT
#160
Who was the person CuteAngel owned in the 2007 proleague finals again? ^.^
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