The Ten Dragons - Page 10

On January 10 2010 03:45 Skyze wrote:
lol any decent protoss is now considered a "dragon"..?? thats kinda lame.

I really only think two protosses deserve the TOP claim.. Stork and Bisu.

Until a protoss comes out of nowhere to win an OSL or MSL, I dont think anyone really cares about a protoss unless its Stork or Bisu.. in other words, GO MOVIE!

On January 10 2010 00:04 Roffles wrote:
Well, us researchers have tested the model various times, obtaining the same empirical evidence as presented in the article. While yes, Bisu has been winning games, we felt as if him solely winning meaningless games in PL does not warrant classification as a dragon. He's been missing from the last two starleagues and doesn't even show the skill of other dragons in either making a deep Starleague Run and isn't even the team's Ace half the time for a reason.

The statistics are quite simple. You either make deep Starleague Runs or you show that you are consistently good lifetime (> 65% win rate) or you show that you can be your team's Ace player and bring home good results. The dragons noted in this study all meet this bare minimum whereas Bisu does not. Face it, the guy is merely a shadow of his former self.

On January 10 2010 06:09 Roffles wrote:

Bisu's not that good anymore. You can tell that his game has fallen off his peak. His PvZ is sloppy as hell these days, his PvT is questionable, and even his PvP has been tested by rookies such as Haksoo.

On January 10 2010 06:13 UGC4 wrote:


wow wait a second, i thought u were just kidding with the op but apparently u are serious lol...

first of all, >65% is so high, not just for protoss players, but for every fuckin player. lets go through your list of "dragons" see how they are doing with their winning rates:
- jangbi 58.16%
- kal 59.27%
- free 55.00%
- stork 60.83%
- best 60.00%
- bisu 64.61%
- stats 52.27%
- pure 47.97%
- movie 52.81%
- guemchi 46.24%

hey, look at that, none of them are above 65%. the closest one is bisu, whom u claim is no longer a dragon. thats "what the fuck?" number 1 right there.

"what the fuck?" number 2 is SKT1. the team is stacked with great players and we all know this. fantasy, best, bisu, all in one team. "bisu is not his team's ace half the time" well duh its cuz they have variety. proleague is not about the individual its about the team, and having variety in the ace card is a good thing. even other good teams like KT/MBC/STX/KHAN have 2 or 3 aces (flash/violet , sea/light/hyun , calm/kal respectively , jangbi/stork) at most, the rest of the teams have just 1 (FOX with roro basically) or none (estro). besides like i pointed out before, if bisu faces stork in an ace match how could they both meet your stupid requirement of 100% ace wins. bisu is 1 - 1 as far as ace appearances go, with the one loss against stork.

what the fuck #3. ur making it seem like getting to the Ro16 of the individual leagues is an easy feat. its not. people cry when they get there (shuttle). moreover, 9 of the 10 dragons u named made it to the Ro16 but only 2 have made it to the semis (movie and kal). now regarding bisu's runs...batoo osl spring 2009 he was in the semis, this was less than a year ago. bacchus osl he gets eliminated by Zero, one of the best ZvPers and he ended up making it to the semis. this ever osl he got eliminated by Shine, another strong ZvPer who also made it to the semis (after beating stork might i add). so yeah, his runs have been unexpectedly short, but his opponents have been worthy.

hate on bisu all u want but dont try to sound smart while at it. cuz u will make a fool of yourself and theres 9 pages to prove that.

On January 10 2010 12:11 3 Lions wrote:
Roffles is right Bisu is an acorn