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Majk
Sweden146 Posts
 The Dragonmaster from the Dragons! Hes not been playing his best att all recently but looking back to previous year he still has 98 wins - 40 losses (71.01%) And to break down each matchup for you vT 32 wins - 14 losses (69.57%) vZ 33 wins - 16 losses (67.35%) vP 33 wins - 10 losses (76.74%) | ||
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C[SCL]
Philippines576 Posts
On January 09 2010 19:09 T.O.P. wrote: You earn the title of being a dragon by your accomplishments as a protoss player, not by the # of fans that you have. im missing something here, dethroning savior at his peak and 3 msl titles arent considered accomplishments nowadays? | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On January 09 2010 10:04 Grobyc wrote: Being a dragoon sounds too badass for Guemchi, Pure, and Stats. Sure they may meet the requirements, but I don't think any of these 3 players were ones who jumped into peoples heads as they were going into this thread. sorry late post, or isit just me who spotted the extra "o" and lol at roffles + Show Spoiler + hatin' on Bisu =p | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
you guys are just giving Roffles free goats. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On January 11 2010 21:00 Majk wrote: You got to be kidding or trolling when excluding The Dragonmaster from the Dragons! Hes not been playing his best att all recently but looking back to previous year he still has 98 wins - 40 losses (71.01%) And to break down each matchup for you vT 32 wins - 14 losses (69.57%) vZ 33 wins - 16 losses (67.35%) vP 33 wins - 10 losses (76.74%) Let's break down who Bisu has beat. Let's face it - he sucks now. Last two months:  815 Win - 815 is only good at ZvZ FrOzean Loss -Bisu faces an Actually good player and losesReach Win - win against washed up playerRorO Win - RorO sucks badly (<40% against toss)Shine Win - Shine is only good in ZvZ with a few gimmick wins ZvPStork Loss - Bisu faces an actual good player and losesTurN Win - beats a newbHydra Win - beats a newb who sucks at ZvPBogus Loss - faces an actual good up and comer and losessAviOr Win - washed upGuemChi Loss - yet another loss to an actual good playerhero Win - Bisu beats his only good player hereGoRush Win - washed upMind Win - washed up, mind is doing terribly against protoss latelyLuxury Loss - Bisu loses to a great PvZerBisu's record has been great for the last two months, but only if you can't take your eyes off of the statistics. He hasn't been anyone good and basically has been newb bashing then losing to every single good player he faces. He really doesn't deserve the title of 'Dragon', it definitely takes more than just a few wins against washed up players to get this title. Well...it's ok though. Bisu is gonna win both leagues. Oh wait, no he isn't LOL | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
I don't think you can say he sucks, he just hasn't had good results. It was like when Flash had like 60% win rate last year and he was 'slumping', but no one really thought he was bad (skill wise), just slumping (result wise) :/ | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On January 12 2010 01:41 Count9 wrote: I don't think you can say he sucks, he just hasn't had good results. It was like when Flash had like 60% win rate last year and he was 'slumping', but no one really thought he was bad (skill wise), just slumping (result wise) :/ i dont think u can compare that.... flash last year was looking messy, like he hadnt quite found his game yet, but u could clearly see the great potential in it, despite any lacking results. bisus play during the last 2 months on the other hand was not only lacking results, it looked uninspired, burnt out and like he had completely lost himself. basically, it seems like all that keeps him winning against most scrubs is mechanics and experience. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
As for this thread, there will never be new dragons in an age where toss is getting owned so hard. Dragon isn't a title you just assign to any good toss player. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 12 2010 01:30 Fontong wrote: Let's break down who Bisu has beat. Let's face it - he sucks now. Last two months: 815 Win - 815 is only good at ZvZFrOzean Loss -Bisu faces an Actually good player and losesReach Win - win against washed up playerRorO Win - RorO sucks badly (<40% against toss)Shine Win - Shine is only good in ZvZ with a few gimmick wins ZvPStork Loss - Bisu faces an actual good player and losesTurN Win - beats a newbHydra Win - beats a newb who sucks at ZvPBogus Loss - faces an actual good up and comer and losessAviOr Win - washed upGuemChi Loss - yet another loss to an actual good playerhero Win - Bisu beats his only good player hereGoRush Win - washed upMind Win - washed up, mind is doing terribly against protoss latelyLuxury Loss - Bisu loses to a great PvZerBisu's record has been great for the last two months, but only if you can't take your eyes off of the statistics. He hasn't been anyone good and basically has been newb bashing then losing to every single good player he faces. He really doesn't deserve the title of 'Dragon', it definitely takes more than just a few wins against washed up players to get this title. Well...it's ok though. Bisu is gonna win both leagues. Oh wait, no he isn't LOL Hey thats pretty cool, cherry picking games like that. I wonder if its possible to do that to any other people on Roffles' troll list. Or maybe you forgot he beat Guemchi? | ||
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mylife4iron
United States33 Posts
Actually, as of this writing, the six dragons are once again the 6 top Toss players on the ELO list. Weird. Wonder which one besides those 6 is going to dominate in 2010. Movie? Violet? 3 months ago I would have picked Horang2, but boy has he slumped. Oh, and don't forget Shuttle, practically a mini-Bisu. At least in his last 10, he's got great PvZ, great PvP, and...well, 2 out of 3 MU's isn't bad. And his only PvP losses are to Bisu himself. | ||
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mylife4iron
United States33 Posts
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Majk
Sweden146 Posts
It's all about win% and how they actually play during a longer time-frame, that's why even if Bisu have been playing bad during 1-2 month's he's overall performance the last year is still S-class and definitely Dragon-worthy. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 12 2010 03:44 Black Gun wrote: i dont think u can compare that.... flash last year was looking messy, like he hadnt quite found his game yet, but u could clearly see the great potential in it, despite any lacking results. bisus play during the last 2 months on the other hand was not only lacking results, it looked uninspired, burnt out and like he had completely lost himself. basically, it seems like all that keeps him winning against most scrubs is mechanics and experience. So, in other words like Stork last year. | ||
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
On January 12 2010 01:30 Fontong wrote: Let's break down who Bisu has beat. Let's face it - he sucks now. Last two months: 815 Win - 815 is only good at ZvZFrOzean Loss -Bisu faces an Actually good player and losesReach Win - win against washed up playerRorO Win - RorO sucks badly (<40% against toss)Shine Win - Shine is only good in ZvZ with a few gimmick wins ZvPStork Loss - Bisu faces an actual good player and losesTurN Win - beats a newbHydra Win - beats a newb who sucks at ZvPBogus Loss - faces an actual good up and comer and losessAviOr Win - washed upGuemChi Loss - yet another loss to an actual good playerhero Win - Bisu beats his only good player hereGoRush Win - washed upMind Win - washed up, mind is doing terribly against protoss latelyLuxury Loss - Bisu loses to a great PvZerBisu's record has been great for the last two months, but only if you can't take your eyes off of the statistics. He hasn't been anyone good and basically has been newb bashing then losing to every single good player he faces. He really doesn't deserve the title of 'Dragon', it definitely takes more than just a few wins against washed up players to get this title. Well...it's ok though. Bisu is gonna win both leagues. Oh wait, no he isn't LOL LOLOL Frozean is not a good player. This is the guy who went 0-12 or something like that last season in proleague. Frozean just happened to go a very strong push that Bisu had no answer to. Turn isn't a bad player, he almost beat Bisu. His micro is astoundingly good for a new player. Guemchi is decent, but he's not a "good" player and he's certainly not on Bisu's level. And Luxury is not good either. He's been slumping recently and his ZvP isn't even close to being his best matchup. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
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Piste
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On January 12 2010 22:45 Mykill wrote: Frozean is NOT a good player. I know, which is why losing to him is simply ridiculous. No "Dragon" should ever lose to such an awful player. | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
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