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iG.SwOrD
Profile Joined October 2009
Bulgaria183 Posts
January 12 2010 14:28 GMT
#241
On January 12 2010 01:30 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 21:00 Majk wrote:
You got to be kidding or trolling when excluding (P)The Dragonmaster from the Dragons! Hes not been playing his best att all recently but looking back to previous year he still has 98 wins - 40 losses (71.01%)

And to break down each matchup for you
vT 32 wins - 14 losses (69.57%)
vZ 33 wins - 16 losses (67.35%)
vP 33 wins - 10 losses (76.74%)

Let's break down who Bisu has beat. Let's face it - he sucks now. Last two months:
(Z)815        Win - 815 is only good at ZvZ
(T)FrOzean        Loss -Bisu faces an (P)Actually good player and loses
(P)Reach        Win - win against washed up player
(Z)RorO        Win - RorO sucks badly (<40% against toss)
(Z)Shine        Win - Shine is only good in ZvZ with a few gimmick wins ZvP
(P)Stork        Loss - Bisu faces an actual good player and loses
(T)TurN        Win - beats a newb
(Z)Hydra        Win - beats a newb who sucks at ZvP
(T)Bogus        Loss - faces an actual good up and comer and loses
(Z)sAviOr        Win - washed up
(P)GuemChi        Loss - yet another loss to an actual good player
(Z)hero        Win - Bisu beats his only good player here
(Z)GoRush        Win - washed up
(T)Mind       Win - washed up, mind is doing terribly against protoss lately
(Z)Luxury       Loss - Bisu loses to a great PvZer

Bisu's record has been great for the last two months, but only if you can't take your eyes off of the statistics. He hasn't been anyone good and basically has been newb bashing then losing to every single good player he faces. He really doesn't deserve the title of 'Dragon', it definitely takes more than just a few wins against washed up players to get this title.


Well...it's ok though. Bisu is gonna win both leagues. Oh wait, no he isn't LOL


Just get the fuck out of this site plz..
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
January 12 2010 14:44 GMT
#242
Funny stuff right here :D
I Can Fly...
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
January 12 2010 15:04 GMT
#243
This thread is the fucking funniest shit I've seen in around a month.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6184 Posts
January 12 2010 15:14 GMT
#244
On January 12 2010 01:30 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2010 21:00 Majk wrote:
You got to be kidding or trolling when excluding (P)The Dragonmaster from the Dragons! Hes not been playing his best att all recently but looking back to previous year he still has 98 wins - 40 losses (71.01%)

And to break down each matchup for you
vT 32 wins - 14 losses (69.57%)
vZ 33 wins - 16 losses (67.35%)
vP 33 wins - 10 losses (76.74%)

Let's break down who Bisu has beat. Let's face it - he sucks now. Last two months:
(Z)815        Win - 815 is only good at ZvZ
(T)FrOzean        Loss -Bisu faces an (P)Actually good player and loses
(P)Reach        Win - win against washed up player
(Z)RorO        Win - RorO sucks badly (<40% against toss)
(Z)Shine        Win - Shine is only good in ZvZ with a few gimmick wins ZvP
(P)Stork        Loss - Bisu faces an actual good player and loses
(T)TurN        Win - beats a newb
(Z)Hydra        Win - beats a newb who sucks at ZvP
(T)Bogus        Loss - faces an actual good up and comer and loses
(Z)sAviOr        Win - washed up
(P)GuemChi        Loss - yet another loss to an actual good player
(Z)hero        Win - Bisu beats his only good player here
(Z)GoRush        Win - washed up
(T)Mind       Win - washed up, mind is doing terribly against protoss lately
(Z)Luxury       Loss - Bisu loses to a great PvZer

Bisu's record has been great for the last two months, but only if you can't take your eyes off of the statistics. He hasn't been anyone good and basically has been newb bashing then losing to every single good player he faces. He really doesn't deserve the title of 'Dragon', it definitely takes more than just a few wins against washed up players to get this title.


Well...it's ok though. Bisu is gonna win both leagues. Oh wait, no he isn't LOL

YEAGH HE MUST BE A FUCKING NEWB COZ HE IS ONLY 62.50% between 09-11-09 and 09-12-30 AGAINST PROGAMERS.

Plues he just beat "an actual good player" Guemchi at his latest game.

Bisu was 71.01% if counting the whole 2009 year. Yeah he sucks.
Are an idiot? Bisu is still one of the top protosses -_-
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 12 2010 17:07 GMT
#245
I can't believe I missed it the first time around.

Good read, I couldn't agree more. Now that bisu won a few more games, we need to tighten the restriction between current Elo and Elo peak.

Must remove bisu...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 12 2010 23:39 GMT
#246
On January 12 2010 22:55 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 22:45 Mykill wrote:
Frozean is NOT a good player.

I know, which is why losing to him is simply ridiculous. No "Dragon" should ever lose to such an awful player.

Well then, I think you should update your Dragon requirements then. "Must not have ever lost to Frozean".
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 12 2010 23:44 GMT
#247
On January 13 2010 08:39 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 22:55 Roffles wrote:
On January 12 2010 22:45 Mykill wrote:
Frozean is NOT a good player.

I know, which is why losing to him is simply ridiculous. No "Dragon" should ever lose to such an awful player.

Well then, I think you should update your Dragon requirements then. "Must not have ever lost to Frozean".

Who cares anymore? Bisu sucks too much to be a dragon anyway lolol.
GANDHISAUCE
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 12 2010 23:46 GMT
#248
On January 13 2010 08:39 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 22:55 Roffles wrote:
On January 12 2010 22:45 Mykill wrote:
Frozean is NOT a good player.

I know, which is why losing to him is simply ridiculous. No "Dragon" should ever lose to such an awful player.

Well then, I think you should update your Dragon requirements then. "Must not have ever lost to Frozean".

But if you did that, it would disqualify Violet!
Moderator
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
January 12 2010 23:49 GMT
#249
Dragons > Bonjwas :D
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
January 13 2010 00:07 GMT
#250
Despite all the hype behind Violet/Movie, elo ranks the original 6 dragons still above them


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed-elo?race=P#tblt-2421-1-2-DESC
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 13 2010 00:22 GMT
#251
Flash the Dragon slayer
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
BraveNewWorld
Profile Joined December 2009
United States229 Posts
January 13 2010 01:14 GMT
#252
bisu never tries in televised matches anymore

he's lost his old flair

"who is bisu anyway" - torm3ntin (Jan. 19th, 2009)
mylife4iron
Profile Joined May 2009
United States33 Posts
January 14 2010 06:03 GMT
#253
Seriously folks, there is no slump. 8 in a row PvZ is not luck. Bisu is outplaying them.

There has been some talk about how Bisu always plays sloppy, always has to come back from behind, repeat ad diarrheum...It's all bunk when you look at the final score. Bisu knows how to *win* even if we spectators don't think he knows how to *play*. For all we know, he slops around on purpose as a psychological tactic, to get his opponent over-confident and lead him into making mistakes. Well ok, probably not. But how can you argue with 8 in a row in one matchup, and 8 wins in his last 10 overall. That's better than any of the other dragons are doing. (though Jangbi is close)
Fart
Yamoth
Profile Joined February 2009
United States315 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 12:51:36
January 14 2010 09:57 GMT
#254
Your article lost credibility and wouldn't even pass for joke when you list Guemchi as a dragon.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 14 2010 11:14 GMT
#255
On January 14 2010 18:57 Yamoth wrote:
Your article lost are credibility and wouldn't even pass for joke when you list Guemchi as a dragon.

Come again? 2-1 vs Bisu lifetime. Did you say something?
God Bless
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 14:39:19
January 14 2010 14:38 GMT
#256
You people need to browse Blizzard's WoW forums more. At least then you'd know a worthless troll thread when you see one.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 14 2010 14:48 GMT
#257
Wow Roffles with the most successful troll since the fresh prince of imba.
Remember Violet.
mylife4iron
Profile Joined May 2009
United States33 Posts
January 16 2010 23:42 GMT
#258
Beat dead horse...beat dead horse...

In the ELO rankings, right between Violet/Movie and the 6 dragons is Hiya, the feared dragon slayer who just gave an encore of his Khan-Toss mashing last year. Fittingly, the lone dragon who escaped Hiya's wrath last season was Bisu, who hasn't lost to him since 2007. Ergo Bisu still deserves to be a dragon. Or at least a dragoon. Or maybe just a goon.
Fart
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 16 2010 23:47 GMT
#259
If you really think that bisu will not rise up again then you need to rethink something... He is definitely not done yet.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 08:58:16
May 13 2010 08:56 GMT
#260
You know, 4 months ago, I mentioned that Bisu was playing like complete trash, not worthy of being mentioned as a dragon. Hardly anyone believed me, and dismissed me as a troll.

Shame on you guys. You guys defended Bisu with all your heart, only to watch him suffer countless losses to the hands of complete newbies he would have crushed in the past. Life must be hard as a Bisu fan.
God Bless
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