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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 30 2009 01:31 GMT
#61
I WANT HIM DEAD.

-Bork
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 30 2009 01:31 GMT
#62
On December 30 2009 10:30 Ash wrote:
The no.1 condition to be welcomed by people when you are a new comer is

+ Show Spoiler +
You need to be good looking else don't even think about it!


Or look like an alien or another species.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 01:36:59
December 30 2009 01:36 GMT
#63
On December 30 2009 09:12 Xiphos wrote:
Well Calm did that Mutalisk vs Protoss on El Nino against Pure which Shine did too, so Shine abused that map perfectly (not based on skills). Shine on game 3 vs Stork AGAIN abused the map of HBR's backdoor minerals and succeeded again. So in a sense, he abuses every single thing he can. His late game is pretty weak, if you watch the game of him vs Stork second game, he crumbled and his army got decimated by Stork's ball of death. His defense is pretty weak.

In the second game he went all-in off of 3 bases and after that scrambled to defend. He was very behind for the last half of the game, it was actually very impressive defense for him not to just roll over. He lost probably 30-40 hydras trying to break Stork's third and didn't kill very many units for it. Imagine Stork trying to break out of that lurker contain with all the hydras Shine lost for nothing present and it's pretty apparent that he wouldn't have been able to for at least 2 or 3 more minutes, if ever. His play style is going to put him into these situations frequently, I would imagine, but it doesn't mean that his lategame is automatically weak, per se.

Also, Shine is different from Kwanro in that his attacks come at much later timings and different economic levels. If anything he's more similar to July's zvp style.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 30 2009 01:39 GMT
#64
On December 30 2009 10:31 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 10:30 Ash wrote:
The no.1 condition to be welcomed by people when you are a new comer is

+ Show Spoiler +
You need to be good looking else don't even think about it!


Or look like an alien or another species.

*Appeal to nostalgia.
Jaedong
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
December 30 2009 01:41 GMT
#65
On December 30 2009 10:18 kNyTTyM wrote:
Shine is definitely playing to his strengths which everyone should be doing. I'm just not a fan of his style of play. If there is a weakness in Protoss's defense he exploits it nicely. If there is no present weakness, he tries to force his way in and loses if he can't open an alley for attack. I feel like he plays a more foreign style zerg rather then the common management style with an aggressive undertone.

edit: Oh he also stays true to julyzerg's style more then any other. Jaedong is more of a mix between management and aggressive zergstyles. If this were july people would be kissing his ass right now for taking out bisu and stork with his sexy aggressive play.
this is so true
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
December 30 2009 01:42 GMT
#66
Now that I have no disposition to any of the remaining OSL players, I want Shine to win the whole thing. There have always been heroes in starcraft, but there as never been a villain. If Shine upsets Flash... dammmnnn,
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 30 2009 01:42 GMT
#67
On December 30 2009 08:57 kb.RepulsE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 08:54 SkytoM wrote:
Shine is awful, you say next JD when he got a MU in < 50%.. have the Standards fallen so low?

A good player has all MU's >60%.

Shine suckz. and he is just there because bisu only trained for really ( and bisu is a moron for doing that , no offense ), and el nino. Every season there is a " breakthrough " player, then comes the (deserved) hate and now (as always) defending threads. dude, this is a by.hero right there. or even worse a yarnc or type-b.

He is nothing special nor will he accomplish anything ever. its like kwanro in the finals if shine gets into OSL finals. Just a shame.


...Plus, he would rape all you haters in an sc match anyways so show a little respect lol.

i hate statements like this. kwanro would beat 99.9% of TL no problem. doesn't change the fact kwanro fucking blows (relatively) and that final was one of the most miserable excuses of professional starcraft play ever witnessed in an msl championship
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
December 30 2009 01:48 GMT
#68
On December 30 2009 10:42 Myxomatosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 08:57 kb.RepulsE wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:54 SkytoM wrote:
Shine is awful, you say next JD when he got a MU in < 50%.. have the Standards fallen so low?

A good player has all MU's >60%.

Shine suckz. and he is just there because bisu only trained for really ( and bisu is a moron for doing that , no offense ), and el nino. Every season there is a " breakthrough " player, then comes the (deserved) hate and now (as always) defending threads. dude, this is a by.hero right there. or even worse a yarnc or type-b.

He is nothing special nor will he accomplish anything ever. its like kwanro in the finals if shine gets into OSL finals. Just a shame.


...Plus, he would rape all you haters in an sc match anyways so show a little respect lol.

i hate statements like this. kwanro would beat 99.9% of TL no problem. doesn't change the fact kwanro fucking blows (relatively) and that final was one of the most miserable excuses of professional starcraft play ever witnessed in an msl championship


why not 100%? just asking
ggaemo fan
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 30 2009 01:52 GMT
#69
He might 4 pool against a 12 hatch.
Jaedong
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 30 2009 01:53 GMT
#70
On December 30 2009 10:42 Myxomatosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 08:57 kb.RepulsE wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:54 SkytoM wrote:
Shine is awful, you say next JD when he got a MU in < 50%.. have the Standards fallen so low?

A good player has all MU's >60%.

Shine suckz. and he is just there because bisu only trained for really ( and bisu is a moron for doing that , no offense ), and el nino. Every season there is a " breakthrough " player, then comes the (deserved) hate and now (as always) defending threads. dude, this is a by.hero right there. or even worse a yarnc or type-b.

He is nothing special nor will he accomplish anything ever. its like kwanro in the finals if shine gets into OSL finals. Just a shame.


...Plus, he would rape all you haters in an sc match anyways so show a little respect lol.

i hate statements like this. kwanro would beat 99.9% of TL no problem. doesn't change the fact kwanro fucking blows (relatively) and that final was one of the most miserable excuses of professional starcraft play ever witnessed in an msl championship

Kwanro vs Calm was much more interesting than JD vs Yarnc.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 30 2009 01:53 GMT
#71
On December 30 2009 10:48 valaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 10:42 Myxomatosis wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:57 kb.RepulsE wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:54 SkytoM wrote:
Shine is awful, you say next JD when he got a MU in < 50%.. have the Standards fallen so low?

A good player has all MU's >60%.

Shine suckz. and he is just there because bisu only trained for really ( and bisu is a moron for doing that , no offense ), and el nino. Every season there is a " breakthrough " player, then comes the (deserved) hate and now (as always) defending threads. dude, this is a by.hero right there. or even worse a yarnc or type-b.

He is nothing special nor will he accomplish anything ever. its like kwanro in the finals if shine gets into OSL finals. Just a shame.


...Plus, he would rape all you haters in an sc match anyways so show a little respect lol.

i hate statements like this. kwanro would beat 99.9% of TL no problem. doesn't change the fact kwanro fucking blows (relatively) and that final was one of the most miserable excuses of professional starcraft play ever witnessed in an msl championship


why not 100%? just asking


he has a 50% chance of losing if he fails an all-in vs idra
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
December 30 2009 01:53 GMT
#72
On December 30 2009 10:42 Myxomatosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 08:57 kb.RepulsE wrote:
On December 30 2009 08:54 SkytoM wrote:
Shine is awful, you say next JD when he got a MU in < 50%.. have the Standards fallen so low?

A good player has all MU's >60%.

Shine suckz. and he is just there because bisu only trained for really ( and bisu is a moron for doing that , no offense ), and el nino. Every season there is a " breakthrough " player, then comes the (deserved) hate and now (as always) defending threads. dude, this is a by.hero right there. or even worse a yarnc or type-b.

He is nothing special nor will he accomplish anything ever. its like kwanro in the finals if shine gets into OSL finals. Just a shame.


...Plus, he would rape all you haters in an sc match anyways so show a little respect lol.

i hate statements like this. kwanro would beat 99.9% of TL no problem. doesn't change the fact kwanro fucking blows (relatively) and that final was one of the most miserable excuses of professional starcraft play ever witnessed in an msl championship
kwanro's won 60% of his games in 2009, how the fuck does he blow?! Your just a blind anti fan lol.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 01:55:17
December 30 2009 01:54 GMT
#73
Kwanro is the 4th or 5th best Zerg at the moment depending on which rankings you use.

He's one of only 10 players with an ELO over 2200.
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
December 30 2009 01:57 GMT
#74
The thing I hate is that new players beat the really good players and then go into a slump. The idea that no-namers gain bonjwa status by beating the favorites is long gone. Just look at Mind, Luxury, ForGG. At least they earned a title. Players like Shine, Type-B, BackHo did nothing of that sort. They will upset the good players because of imbalances in matchups and then go on to the semis, crash and go back to being below 50% win rate players.

Im not even asking them to be bonjwas, at least win some games in the proleague dude!
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 30 2009 02:00 GMT
#75
On December 30 2009 10:54 jalstar wrote:
Kwanro is the 4th or 5th best Zerg at the moment depending on which rankings you use.

He's one of only 10 players with an ELO over 2200.


this
Bisu... ;-(
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 30 2009 02:01 GMT
#76
On December 30 2009 10:57 G3nXsiS wrote:
The thing I hate is that new players beat the really good players and then go into a slump. The idea that no-namers gain bonjwa status by beating the favorites is long gone. Just look at Mind, Luxury, ForGG. At least they earned a title. Players like Shine, Type-B, BackHo did nothing of that sort. They will upset the good players because of imbalances in matchups and then go on to the semis, crash and go back to being below 50% win rate players.

Im not even asking them to be bonjwas, at least win some games in the proleague dude!


Are we talking about different players? Because Shine is 9-3 in proleague and a huge reason why WeMade is in playoff contention.
Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
December 30 2009 02:08 GMT
#77
silver was in an msl final too. he blew as well.
Slugbreath
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden201 Posts
December 30 2009 02:08 GMT
#78
Great writing here. Thanks for taking your time to do this.
KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
December 30 2009 02:15 GMT
#79
strong player but I hate his style
and i'm sick of looking at him
"We need alcohol" ~Stork
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 30 2009 02:16 GMT
#80
I completely agree. Rock has been in the freaking semi finals of the OSL before too, and he is really good.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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