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arcticStorm
Profile Joined January 2009
United States295 Posts
December 30 2009 00:20 GMT
#41
On December 30 2009 09:09 Piste wrote:
i hope Shine CRUSHES Movie.


What? So we can have Flash vs Shine finals? It'll be a complete steamroll! For the sake of entertainment, I'd much rather have Flash vs Movie.
This statement is a lie.
Chaos
Profile Joined July 2009
United States772 Posts
December 30 2009 00:22 GMT
#42
On December 30 2009 09:12 Xiphos wrote:So in a sense, he abuses every single thing he can.


Sounds smart to me.
FruitMarket
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
December 30 2009 00:22 GMT
#43
Have you seen the games against Bisu?

I just rewatched the three sets of the OSL09 Ro36 on youtube. Set 1 - Shine spams hydras and wins. Set 2 - Shine spams hydras and Bisu storms them and Bisu wins. Set 3 - Shine spams hydras and wins.

All hail Shine!

More of a Bisu loss then Shine win. Soon enough someone will school him 3-0. Just like Bisu schooled FBH when he was on his protoss rampage.

Shine vs. Stork OSLro8 spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
In set 2 of Shine vs Stork in the OSL09 Ro8 we got to see a glimpse of the real Shine. Completely cracking at the sight of a drawn out macro game. Stork didn't even twitch.

Scrubby Zerg Shine has no chance at all against Flash and I hope Movie beats him. If he does - Movie can give Flash a real run for his money for the OSL gold.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 30 2009 00:24 GMT
#44
On December 30 2009 09:22 Emon_ wrote:
Have you seen the games against Bisu?

I just rewatched the three sets of the OSL09 Ro36 on youtube. Set 1 - Shine spams hydras and wins. Set 2 - Shine spams hydras and Bisu storms them and Bisu wins. Set 3 - Shine spams hydras and wins.

All hail Shine!

More of a Bisu loss then Shine win. Soon enough someone will school him 3-0. Just like Bisu schooled FBH when he was on his protoss rampage.

Shine vs. Stork OSLro8 spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
In set 2 of Shine vs Stork in the OSL09 Ro8 we got to see a glimpse of the real Shine. Completely cracking at the sight of a drawn out macro game. Stork didn't even twitch.

Scrubby Zerg Shine has no chance at all against Flash and I hope Movie beats him. If he does - Movie can give Flash a real run for his money for the OSL gold.


i totally agree.
Bisu... ;-(
Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
December 30 2009 00:26 GMT
#45
On December 30 2009 09:22 Emon_ wrote:
Have you seen the games against Bisu?

I just rewatched the three sets of the OSL09 Ro36 on youtube. Set 1 - Shine spams hydras and wins. Set 2 - Shine spams hydras and Bisu storms them and Bisu wins. Set 3 - Shine spams hydras and wins.

All hail Shine!

More of a Bisu loss then Shine win. Soon enough someone will school him 3-0. Just like Bisu schooled FBH when he was on his protoss rampage.

Shine vs. Stork OSLro8 spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
In set 2 of Shine vs Stork in the OSL09 Ro8 we got to see a glimpse of the real Shine. Completely cracking at the sight of a drawn out macro game. Stork didn't even twitch.

Scrubby Zerg Shine has no chance at all against Flash and I hope Movie beats him. If he does - Movie can give Flash a real run for his money for the OSL gold.


This a thousand times this!!!
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 30 2009 00:27 GMT
#46
Shine is fucking good but so is movie. I'm definitely staying up to watch their series. But the truth is, this is Flash's trophy.
Sullifam
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
December 30 2009 00:27 GMT
#47
On December 30 2009 09:22 Emon_ wrote:
Have you seen the games against Bisu?

I just rewatched the three sets of the OSL09 Ro36 on youtube. Set 1 - Shine spams hydras and wins. Set 2 - Shine spams hydras and Bisu storms them and Bisu wins. Set 3 - Shine spams hydras and wins.

All hail Shine!

More of a Bisu loss then Shine win. Soon enough someone will school him 3-0. Just like Bisu schooled FBH when he was on his protoss rampage.

Shine vs. Stork OSLro8 spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
In set 2 of Shine vs Stork in the OSL09 Ro8 we got to see a glimpse of the real Shine. Completely cracking at the sight of a drawn out macro game. Stork didn't even twitch.

Scrubby Zerg Shine has no chance at all against Flash and I hope Movie beats him. If he does - Movie can give Flash a real run for his money for the OSL gold.


So why isn't Bisu just countering Shine's predictable hydras? Is it because hydras are an auto-win? Or is it because there's a deeper metagame that is keeping Bisu off-balance, unable to confidently prepare for hydras, and Shine is taking adv of that?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
December 30 2009 00:33 GMT
#48
You know it's pretty funny how history never changes the views on upcoming players ;p
Always it's doubt before anything.

Let's just wait and see, I hope he does keep it up because I enjoy watching him atm
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
December 30 2009 00:33 GMT
#49
On December 30 2009 09:27 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 09:22 Emon_ wrote:
Have you seen the games against Bisu?

I just rewatched the three sets of the OSL09 Ro36 on youtube. Set 1 - Shine spams hydras and wins. Set 2 - Shine spams hydras and Bisu storms them and Bisu wins. Set 3 - Shine spams hydras and wins.

All hail Shine!

More of a Bisu loss then Shine win. Soon enough someone will school him 3-0. Just like Bisu schooled FBH when he was on his protoss rampage.

Shine vs. Stork OSLro8 spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
In set 2 of Shine vs Stork in the OSL09 Ro8 we got to see a glimpse of the real Shine. Completely cracking at the sight of a drawn out macro game. Stork didn't even twitch.

Scrubby Zerg Shine has no chance at all against Flash and I hope Movie beats him. If he does - Movie can give Flash a real run for his money for the OSL gold.


So why isn't Bisu just countering Shine's predictable hydras? Is it because hydras are an auto-win? Or is it because there's a deeper metagame that is keeping Bisu off-balance, unable to confidently prepare for hydras, and Shine is taking adv of that?


There is no deeper meta game... Zerg just has an early game advantage that Shine exploits. The moment he loses that advantage he loses the game.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
December 30 2009 00:39 GMT
#50
On December 30 2009 09:33 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2009 09:27 cz wrote:
On December 30 2009 09:22 Emon_ wrote:
Have you seen the games against Bisu?

I just rewatched the three sets of the OSL09 Ro36 on youtube. Set 1 - Shine spams hydras and wins. Set 2 - Shine spams hydras and Bisu storms them and Bisu wins. Set 3 - Shine spams hydras and wins.

All hail Shine!

More of a Bisu loss then Shine win. Soon enough someone will school him 3-0. Just like Bisu schooled FBH when he was on his protoss rampage.

Shine vs. Stork OSLro8 spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
In set 2 of Shine vs Stork in the OSL09 Ro8 we got to see a glimpse of the real Shine. Completely cracking at the sight of a drawn out macro game. Stork didn't even twitch.

Scrubby Zerg Shine has no chance at all against Flash and I hope Movie beats him. If he does - Movie can give Flash a real run for his money for the OSL gold.


So why isn't Bisu just countering Shine's predictable hydras? Is it because hydras are an auto-win? Or is it because there's a deeper metagame that is keeping Bisu off-balance, unable to confidently prepare for hydras, and Shine is taking adv of that?


There is no deeper meta game... Zerg just has an early game advantage that Shine exploits. The moment he loses that advantage he loses the game.


this

and @OP: Nobody is "bad" at ZvZ, not counting old players and a few really bad Progamers. This is why Zerg is the "best" race nowadays. One Good MU (ZvP), One bad MU (ZvT) and one coin-flip MU (ZvZ). I know JD was one step ahead but this time is gone, muta micro is something everybody can learn very fast with a coach and determination ( in _comparison_ to other aspects of the game of course)
Bisu... ;-(
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 30 2009 00:40 GMT
#51
He just has no charisma.
lol_haha
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia2 Posts
December 30 2009 00:40 GMT
#52
doesnt matter, movie or shine, either will get rolled by flash
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
December 30 2009 00:41 GMT
#53
On December 30 2009 09:40 Ikonn wrote:
He just has no charisma.



Wrong. Everyone says that he is the most mannered player ever, and was a total baller at the group selections. Everyone was all set to hate him for knocking bisu out with gay muta snipes, and then shine was like yo im awesome.
White-Ra fighting!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 30 2009 00:43 GMT
#54
Unless the player cheesed his way to where he is, he deserves it. There's no such thing as "he doesn't deserve the spot" (unless through excessive cheesing).

I actually really enjoy Shine's ZvP; aggressive zerg players make this matchup much more interesting.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 30 2009 00:45 GMT
#55
I want Shine to beat Movie so he can lose to Flash.

kekekeke
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 30 2009 00:47 GMT
#56
On December 30 2009 09:12 Xiphos wrote:
Well Calm did that Mutalisk vs Protoss on El Nino against Pure which Shine did too, so Shine abused that map perfectly (not based on skills). Shine on game 3 vs Stork AGAIN abused the map of HBR's backdoor minerals and succeeded again. So in a sense, he abuses every single thing he can. His late game is pretty weak, if you watch the game of him vs Stork second game, he crumbled and his army got decimated by Stork's ball of death. His defense is pretty weak.


Uh, that's not "abusing" the map. It's stupid to not use the map to your advantage. Blame the map designers not the players.

Geez...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
December 30 2009 01:11 GMT
#57
All you guys who complain that Shine only abuses maps, you sound like Bisu.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-30 01:21:11
December 30 2009 01:18 GMT
#58
Shine is definitely playing to his strengths which everyone should be doing. I'm just not a fan of his style of play. If there is a weakness in Protoss's defense he exploits it nicely. If there is no present weakness, he tries to force his way in and loses if he can't open an alley for attack. I feel like he plays a more foreign style zerg rather then the common management style with an aggressive undertone.

edit: Oh he also stays true to julyzerg's style more then any other. Jaedong is more of a mix between management and aggressive zergstyles. If this were july people would be kissing his ass right now for taking out bisu and stork with his sexy aggressive play.
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
December 30 2009 01:30 GMT
#59
The no.1 condition to be welcomed by people when you are a new comer is

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You need to be good looking else don't even think about it!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 30 2009 01:31 GMT
#60
Shine vs Flash would be totally one-sided match.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
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