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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 12:57:05
January 08 2010 12:56 GMT
#281
I've actually started to warm up to Shine a little bit, mostly because i feel sorry for the kid - he really doesn't deserve the hate of so many people just because he knocked out some of our favorite players. That is his job after all, to go try to win any way he can. I don't particularly like his playstyle, but he seems like a good person. I was rooting for Movie tonight, but I wasn't doing it because I hate Shine, it was because I like Movie.

+ Show Spoiler +
sadly, it does look like he's going to go the way of type-b. The poor guy looked so sad after he lost
I drop suckas like Plinko
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
January 08 2010 13:00 GMT
#282
On January 08 2010 21:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
his play was horrible in all 4 games tonight, even the game he won he had it in the first 8 minutes then almost somehow lost it again... you point out the fact that he went 5 hatch hydra in games 2-4, but in game 2 he failed to win after scourging movie's first speed shuttle, which is super crucial, then almost managed to lose game 3 despite a huge advantage, then getting utterly destroyed in game 4... These games didnt look like osl semi-finals, they looked like some S-class playing a random no namer in pro-league, I dont understand how a couple of all-in wins against good players make so many people think this guy is going to be huge in the future, lots of people have gotten to osl quarters/semis then faded out of existance, i doubt he'll be any different -.-


totally agreed.

well maybe except for the fade away part. If he sticks with it, going all in everygame is so retardedly effective for zvp. A trained monkey could do it and and still win games
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 08 2010 13:03 GMT
#283
In the name of (Z)the Son, (Z)the Father, and (Z)the Holy Overmind...

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May (Z)Shine fade into obscurity, or acquire dazzling late-game play.
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 08 2010 20:02 GMT
#284
someone should update shine's winrate in op... but once that happens, shine doesn't look so impressive after all
( ・´ー・`)
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
January 08 2010 20:07 GMT
#285
so this shine guy seems to like making hydras
wraiths go pew pew
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 08 2010 20:56 GMT
#286
On January 08 2010 22:03 tree.hugger wrote:
In the name of (Z)the Son, (Z)the Father, and (Z)the Holy Overmind...

+ Show Spoiler +
May (Z)Shine fade into obscurity, or acquire dazzling late-game play.


here, here

Although I love Movie, I don't hate Shine. He's a young SC player who's just realizing what life is all about so the hate on him is a bit exaggerated.

He needs to work on his gameplay though. All I've seen from him vs. Stork and Movie is crazy aggressive builds. I can't imagine him in a late game ZvT. Flash for example would devourer him. He would consume him like a defiler consumes a zergling.

If he works on his game, there is no reason he can't be the next best zerg. What I've seen so far can be summed up in one word - lazy. Because being good at SC is hard.

So work hard young cerebrate - and best wishes in the future.
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Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
January 08 2010 21:17 GMT
#287
On January 08 2010 21:33 NiGoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 21:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
his play was horrible in all 4 games tonight, even the game he won he had it in the first 8 minutes then almost somehow lost it again... you point out the fact that he went 5 hatch hydra in games 2-4, but in game 2 he failed to win after scourging movie's first speed shuttle, which is super crucial, then almost managed to lose game 3 despite a huge advantage, then getting utterly destroyed in game 4... These games didnt look like osl semi-finals, they looked like some S-class playing a random no namer in pro-league, I dont understand how a couple of all-in wins against good players make so many people think this guy is going to be huge in the future, lots of people have gotten to osl quarters/semis then faded out of existance, i doubt he'll be any different -.-



yeah u are so right.. thats why i dont like him at all!


I am starting to like you less and less, every day Nigol. Not liking Shine is a crime!
I pwn noobs
wifebeater
Profile Joined January 2008
178 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-08 21:35:35
January 08 2010 21:33 GMT
#288
pwned!
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 08 2010 21:46 GMT
#289
On January 09 2010 06:17 Neivler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 21:33 NiGoL wrote:
On January 08 2010 21:24 Ftrunkz wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
his play was horrible in all 4 games tonight, even the game he won he had it in the first 8 minutes then almost somehow lost it again... you point out the fact that he went 5 hatch hydra in games 2-4, but in game 2 he failed to win after scourging movie's first speed shuttle, which is super crucial, then almost managed to lose game 3 despite a huge advantage, then getting utterly destroyed in game 4... These games didnt look like osl semi-finals, they looked like some S-class playing a random no namer in pro-league, I dont understand how a couple of all-in wins against good players make so many people think this guy is going to be huge in the future, lots of people have gotten to osl quarters/semis then faded out of existance, i doubt he'll be any different -.-

yeah u are so right.. thats why i dont like him at all!

I am starting to like you less and less, every day Nigol. Not liking Shine is a crime!


NiGoL, you and Ftrunkz will not see the sun (Z)Shine brightly upon you for this blasphemy.
Bacondemon
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden149 Posts
January 08 2010 21:46 GMT
#290
Good article, maybe a little bit rude/aggresive in the start but a good read!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 08 2010 23:14 GMT
#291
On January 08 2010 20:47 Roffles wrote:
I don't get what's with all the Shine hate? The guy's a sincerely good kid. He plays so hard. How can you not root for him when he plays for his grandmother (who watches every game of his)?

Granted he didn't play the best, he's still a good guy. No need to hate just because he knocked Bisu, Stork, etc. out.

As for his play, it's really fun to watch. His various styles are fun to watch. Could use a little more work on his mechanics, but his style is really exciting. Various openings as opposed to 5 hatch hydra every game.


Because he's really not that good.

HE doesn't have various styles, he has ONE style. All out aggression. Aggression is nice to watch sometimes but it's also fun to watch a long macro game... where Shine fails. Kwanro learned how to macro and look where that got him.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 08 2010 23:25 GMT
#292
well Kwanro could always macro, he just played so aggressive you always swore he had no drones.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 08 2010 23:44 GMT
#293
The Stork will soar again. But this lightbulb just went dim.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
January 08 2010 23:57 GMT
#294
I dont have much to say about Shine, but I was looking through the old Power Rankings and found this on Flash.

08/01/2007

"After his uninspired performances against GGPlay and Stork, one might have thought that Flash was nothing but hype. I, for one, don’t think much of his late-game management—or even his mid-game management."

Just wanted to post this somewhere haha. 2 years ago but funny to see anything negative about Flash, especially concerning his management. Slightly fits in with Shine because of hype talk.
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
January 09 2010 00:00 GMT
#295
On January 09 2010 08:57 0mgVitaminE wrote:
I dont have much to say about Shine, but I was looking through the old Power Rankings and found this on Flash.

08/01/2007

"After his uninspired performances against GGPlay and Stork, one might have thought that Flash was nothing but hype. I, for one, don’t think much of his late-game management—or even his mid-game management."

Just wanted to post this somewhere haha. 2 years ago but funny to see anything negative about Flash, especially concerning his management. Slightly fits in with Shine because of hype talk.

It doesnt really fit in. Flash might not have been a beast in mid to late game management, but at least he could manage. Shine has ridiculously bad defiler control and lategame management, for example
LOSING 2 DRONES TO A PROBE THAT HE LET SNEAK INTO HIS BASE. 10 MINUTES INTO THE GAME.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 09 2010 00:06 GMT
#296
Anyone who was ever good at anything, was bad at it at some point.

He's still relatively young in progaming terms, and it's up to him how his career continues.

Just like the coach said about Movie: "he has to make a decision, to become great, or to be an average protoss." something along those lines.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
January 09 2010 00:09 GMT
#297
On January 09 2010 09:06 niteReloaded wrote:
Anyone who was ever good at anything, was bad at it at some point.

correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't jaedong good since his debut
( ・´ー・`)
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
January 09 2010 00:24 GMT
#298
On January 09 2010 09:09 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 09:06 niteReloaded wrote:
Anyone who was ever good at anything, was bad at it at some point.

correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't jaedong good since his debut


No, dude lost embarrassingly quite a few times in his early years.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
January 09 2010 00:31 GMT
#299
shine sucks
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 09 2010 00:42 GMT
#300
On January 09 2010 09:09 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 09:06 niteReloaded wrote:
Anyone who was ever good at anything, was bad at it at some point.

correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't jaedong good since his debut


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