No Gom Tv Classic 4

On October 23 2009 15:05 podorii wrote:
- the reason?
+ 7 teams decided not to participate (MBC, Ongamenet, KT, Estro, Stx, SKT1, Kong Goon)
a. teams just don't have enough time for the players to prepare for every games
b. too much workload for progammers

On October 23 2009 15:09 Pioneer wrote:
What is Kong Goon?

On October 23 2009 15:52 broz0rs wrote:
"too much workload for progamers"

what kind of horseshit is that?
do these teams don't like winning prize money? they can't play an additional BO3 every other week with a very flexible schedule? they don't like to allow 3 to 4 b-team players enter a tourney asides from offline competition?

On October 23 2009 15:26 heyoka wrote:
wait didn't gomtv build studios just for that tournament? Did they use those outside of the sc casts?

On October 23 2009 16:05 heyoka wrote:
and alas, it becomes abandoned again

perhaps it is really the fault of this school. is it haunted?

On October 23 2009 15:21 anch wrote:

Too much workload?! did Flash complain??
We know that A-team work like horses, but this tournament gives chances to B or C teams.

KeSPA probably have their foot on this.

On October 23 2009 20:56 Lumi wrote:
GosuGamers has a little update

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/10690-kespa-vs-blizzard-1-0

Apparently Oz, Samsung Khan, Stars, Sparkyz, Wemade FOX all were interested and everyone else 'said' no.

On October 23 2009 22:27 Integra wrote:
All onlineplay in SC2 will be on BattleNet. This means that any playing that occurs has to be with agreement with the rules that Blizzard establishes.

If they establish (which they will) that only leagues that is recongnized by Blizzard are allowed to host tournaments with a prize pool higher than a certain amount and Kespa still uses BattleNet and hosts tournaments that goes over the the legal prize pool they are doing illegal activities.

On October 23 2009 20:56 Lumi wrote:
GosuGamers has a little update

http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/10690-kespa-vs-blizzard-1-0

Apparently Oz, Samsung Khan, Stars, CJ, Wemade FOX all were interested and everyone else 'said' no.

On October 23 2009 15:14 [X]Ken_D wrote:
B team players are too busy sitting on the bench to participate in GOM

If the teams don't want their star players to participate then okay, but it's not fair to their other players that yet to accomplish anything and do want to participate.

On October 23 2009 22:43 Baddieko wrote:
They should make this competition for those who drop out of OSL and MSL prelims, like the europa cup for soccer. Those dropouts will fight with B and C teamers for the title.

On October 24 2009 05:22 ceaRshaf wrote:
But if Korea turns the back to the rest of the world and wants to play only in their courtyard i think that should be let as it is. Blizzards has enough money to sponsor THE REST OF WORLD (foreigns) and make a huge tournament. I really don't understand why so many bad decisionss.

Let me make a starcraft analogy: Korea is like a turteled terran, and foreigns a toss player. If he turteles YOU EXPAND . Let them make their own world....

On October 24 2009 08:07 Adeeler wrote:
I just hope Tasteless & SDM get to do more commentaries of games.

On October 24 2009 08:25 Nytefish wrote:


Who would sponsor something with such a (relatively) tiny viewer-base.

To make a starcraft analogy, Korea is turtling the only base with resources on the map...

On October 23 2009 15:13 eMbrace wrote:


what do the korean comments of the article say? i want to know what they think =/

On October 23 2009 20:03 lilsusie wrote:
Oh man, if this is true, then the head of the GOM S4 guy flat out lied to me. I have MSN chat logs of him telling me that they are in negotiations and that they are planning for December. I guess Blizz and Kespa and GOM never came to an agreement.

On October 24 2009 12:15 Zona wrote:
For those who say teams are kespa's puppet's - aren't they the ones who control kespa in the first place? It feels like kespa was someone to use to hide behind when they made their decisions.

On October 24 2009 20:11 Jamz wrote:
I was really looking forward to the next season, my big question now is where do i go to watch pro-gaming startcraft with english commetators?

On October 24 2009 20:22 Liquid_Turbo wrote:


They'res plenty online.

On October 25 2009 03:10 Jamz wrote:


Well im kinda new to this, i was reintroduced to SC because of GOM, do you have any links?

On October 24 2009 23:51 uglymoose89 wrote:
Does Kespa understand how this will affect the development of the professional scene outside of Korea? Without Gom it's much harder to find games that will be streamed legally and geared towards a foreign scene.

On October 26 2009 08:49 kyama wrote:
Do you guys think this will effect the future of esports in Korea?

On October 27 2009 02:35 Stratos_speAr wrote:


Except that the legal details are COMPLETELY different with SC2. Do you ever wonder why Blizzard is making it so the ONLY way you can play multiplayer is via their battle.net servers? So they have 100% legal jurisdiction over the game. KESPA will have absolutely no basis to make a league off of when they are forced to use the battle.net servers to play, and I'm pretty damn sure that Blizzard (this time around) will fill any legal loopholes so servers like iCCup aren't legal for SC2.

On October 27 2009 03:11 heyoka wrote:
KeSPA has shown time and time again they are utterly incompetent in running their own leagues, whats wrong with blizzard trying their hand at it?

On October 27 2009 03:46 KlaCkoN wrote:
Say what one will about kespa but the industry they built around starcraft in korea is the most successful esports phenomenon to date.
To be truly sucessful a game must start to live on its own, to survive long after the company behind it no longer gains any money from it and long after they stop caring. If sc2 esports become dependent on blizzard then I fear it will die the second blizzard comes out with their next title.
How often does the map pool in wc3 change? My understanding is that many of the ladder maps are the same now as they were 5 years ago? That's another example of what happens when a slow, bureaucratic game _developer_ gets put in charge.
Say what you want about kespa but they care for sc and only sc, blizzard can never give us that.

On October 27 2009 04:25 psion0011 wrote:
Nobody who was in KESPA in the days, when they made starcraft a success, is in KESPA anymore (source: SDM), so all that bullshit about "building the esports industry" is irrelevant.

On October 27 2009 04:48 KlaCkoN wrote:

How is it irrelevant? People come and go, it's been 11 years afterall. The point is that blizzard had nothing to do with it. If some new (better) organization manages to overtake kespa I would be totally fine with that, but it needs to be based on based on the community around the game. Blizzard must let the game live its own life, otherwise it will never outshine brood war.

On October 27 2009 05:54 heyoka wrote:


Interesting assumption, given that the last patch (from Blizzard) was less than a year ago.

On October 27 2009 06:00 KlaCkoN wrote:

They still do bug fixes, cool? I fail to se how that has anything at all to do with brood wars status as an "esport". Blizzard stopped caring for competetive bw when they stopped supporting the official ladder years and years ago.