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Ramsing
Canada233 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On August 28 2009 18:03 Foucault wrote: no I agree lol People should take a step back and realize that Jaedong isn't progaming. In my view he is nothing special at all, then again I'm an old timer and look back at the 4 kings for inspiration. Anyways, this thread is dumb. How is Jaedong being treated like shit btw, the guy just won another Starleague and god knows how much money he has made from Starcraft already. It's also funny how no one EVER tries to look for anything good in Kespa. People hop on the "Kespa sucks" bandwagon but I'm not sure if everyone understands why. Do you have any idea how much Kespa has done for Esports?? You're the idiot that thinks 4pool / 9pool rushes is zerg imbalance. Crying about it when Fantasy got his ass handed to him. GTFO you noob. Your D level iccup oppinion means nothing. | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On August 28 2009 22:56 Tien wrote: You're the idiot that thinks 4pool / 9pool rushes is zerg imbalance. Crying about it when Fantasy got his ass handed to him. GTFO you noob. Your D level iccup oppinion means nothing. Now, now, baby, don't get upset | ||
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On August 28 2009 20:08 dcberkeley wrote: KeSPA, their rules are really messing up the financial potential of players. Obviously there are negative aspects but if you consider the plus side, it prevents a situation where very few players control massive amounts of money on the scene. Since PL can be won by a player like Jaedong alone, it would result in a situation where only a few players ever make money and teams could potentially lose depth and there wouldn't be teams anymore, just star players with enormous salaries plus some great players who end up being paid very little. Also, consider that these teams brought in Jae Dong and trained, fed, gave him a place to sleep and develop. It seems natural that KeSPA wants teams to hold on to players they developed and prevent players from switching teams and being loyal to only money. Or else you end up with a different kind of progaming culture where money is king and coaches rotate players in and out all the time, never developing, just buying potential. Uh...have you missed the fact that we're already in that situation? It's been widely accepted so far, that only a few players command large amounts of money and most play for slave wages or for nothing more than food and board. The reason everyone is upset now is that even the best players are getting abused in the same way. KeSPA doesn't care about switching teams or being loyal to money, just keeping down costs so they can run a league without spending much money. Which leads to an ethical dilemma as a fan where one might love watching SC and ESPORTS, but hate the fact hundreds of children are being basically abused with nothing in return for our entertainment. | ||
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Raidy
Japan87 Posts
(2) His parents want what's best for him. Honestly, it's a little insulting for him to be paid 140,000 won while he's better than the guys pulling 300,000 won. I don't think he does it for the money. Every time I've ever seen him play or talk about playing Starcraft I could tell that he does it out of sheer passion. However, his parents have a point that his team is being incredibly cheap. I think his mom stated that he should at least get paid 180,000 won/year, and is that really so ridiculous? He carried a team that's probably overall worse than ACE to the finals. (3) As far as I can see, a lot of what happened was on Jaedong. He showed no desire to go to any other team, so every other team was probably deathly afraid of picking him up. Think about it. Would you drop THAT MUCH MONEY on a player unless you could expect some significant results? Furthermore, would you expect significant results from a player that just wants to be back on his old team? (4) KeSPA sucks. KeSPA sucks. KeSPA sucks. (5) I don't know if leaving Starcraft at this point in time would be a terrible idea for him in the end. If he went to America to study, he could open up a lot of doors. Don't forget that these guys are all incredibly smart; I could easily see him as the world's best surgeon. 450 APM surgery FTW. | ||
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NiTenIchiRyu
United Kingdom273 Posts
If you don't have anything constructive to add to this thread, I suggest you stop posting. Oh wait is that the SKT1 logo ? That explains it lol | ||
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toopham
United States551 Posts
and ban them all? | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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WWJDD
India342 Posts
On August 28 2009 16:45 Mortician wrote: pwned except...Jaedong is not a bonjwa You are right. None of the bonjwa's at their peak could even take a game off of jaedong. | ||
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zeppelin
United States565 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
hahahahaaa | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
On August 29 2009 00:36 Xiphos wrote: Am I the only one that think JD retiring is good for his future in the long run? If Jaedong comes to america, he might actually influence the american community to start their own StarCraft team. No you aren't the only one, as others stated before you the same thing. I, however, doubt that Jaedong will 'influence' an ameircan company to sponsor a professional Starcraft team. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On August 28 2009 23:57 WWJDD wrote: You are right. None of the bonjwa's at their peak could even take a game off of jaedong. First: Bonjwa is a title of dominance, not absolute skill. Second: Jaedong is a bonjwa. From a Bisu fan. A hardcore bisu fan. While the competition as to who would emerge the next dominant player was far greater now than it ever was before, Jaedong has truly become the greatest player of his time. Think about his 3 OSL's, and how he didn't have to cross into an era that didn't belong to him to get them. Think about GOM, and how he defeated Bisu in the cross GOM match. Think about his most wins in proleague, and think about where Oz would be without him. And think about this: Would he be a favorite against anyone in the world? Yes. One can point out that he doesn't "feel" like a bonjwa, or that a bonjwa would have won proleague, or some other half baked response, but the fact is he single handedly pushes his team and Zerg to new levels. Moreover, even if you agree with nothing else I say, there is not progamer who deserves your respect more than Jaedong does. The work he is willing to put into this to be the Greatest of All Time, when his talent would be enough to make him good is extraordinary, and if anyone deserves a higher salary, it's him. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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gumbum8
United States721 Posts
No one hates kespa; kespa virtually made E-Sports. We hate the dumbass decisions they have made regarding this free agency policy, and we all want to change that decision. If kespa can be replaced with something better, so be it. + Show Spoiler + basic example: you are the best horse and buggy maker in the world, but then Henry Ford makes the car. Everyone loves cars, they're the best thing ever, but you keep making horse & buggies. No one wants a horse or buggy anymore, and you dont catch up to the times... and you go out of business. and Ford motors takes over. thats the way it all works. thats my example of this concept (if you even need it, it's dumb.) | ||
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote: Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will? Its not, he is at his prime and sometimes its cool to just leave with such a huge mark on the scene. The thing that worries everyone is that its not his choice. If he was getting paid resonably, and his parents did not intervene, and he decided its enough, then we would all be happy for him. however, nothing is his hands  | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On August 28 2009 23:51 NiTenIchiRyu wrote: If you don't have anything constructive to add to this thread, I suggest you stop posting. Oh wait is that the SKT1 logo ? That explains it lol If you don't have anything constructive to add to this thread, I suggest you stop posting. Oh wait is that the CJ logo ? Damn, now I'm ashamed + Show Spoiler + argh fuck, what a waste for post #1000, didn't see that coming... | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7212 Posts
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1984
Ukraine115 Posts
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