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ssj114
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Afghanistan461 Posts
August 28 2009 07:47 GMT
#21
On August 28 2009 16:45 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2009 16:36 Harem wrote:
On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will?

You also think kpop is a good thing.


pwned

Show nested quote +
On August 28 2009 16:45 Sinedd wrote:
Jaedong cant leave like this , one of the bonjwas leaving like this ? its just seem ... not right .


except...Jaedong is not a bonjwa


Yes, Jaedong is not a bonjwa. He is the GOAT.
Sandboxie + SUA + DEP, Windows Firewall + NAT Router
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 28 2009 07:47 GMT
#22
Im with u man.... We like Teamliquid, MAYBE could do something like take pictures of us with a FUCK KESPA sign and a big collage of everyone with that sign, maybe one Korean user of the forum can post it on fomos or something like that, maybe we could send a message to the korean netizens to go against kespa (they would be surprise if maybe 10% of teamliquid do that) cus we are foreign and we are strange for them.

Im crazy I know but I love so much this game that I feel really sad when I see players being slaves of greedy Corps.
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
August 28 2009 08:16 GMT
#23
We should support him financially and tell him to take whatever OZ offers him.

I will put in a $1 a year, you guys cover the other $150k.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 28 2009 08:32 GMT
#24
Seriously, if Korean fans can't do shit about Kespa walking all over players, what can us foreign fans, who contribute basically nothing besides a few MBC hoodies, do to affect Kespa?

On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will?


I also think this way. But then again, I'm studying business so I don't have the blatant fanboy-mode on.

Meh
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
August 28 2009 08:41 GMT
#25
For me I'm against the current FA policy not because I want Jaedong to stay in (that's his own choice) but because the current system is completely illogical and needlessly whittles down every progamer's choices.

If Kespa keeps walking this path soon it will be impossible to go to another team.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 28 2009 08:43 GMT
#26
Yeah we cant do not for JD to stay just to wake up the koreans about Kespa.. that thing is killing SC slowly but for sure.

Im more with the idea of JD stop playing SC and live happy doing another thing and not like a slave on Oz.
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 28 2009 08:51 GMT
#27
On August 28 2009 17:41 Loanshark wrote:
For me I'm against the current FA policy not because I want Jaedong to stay in (that's his own choice) but because the current system is completely illogical and needlessly whittles down every progamer's choices.

If Kespa keeps walking this path soon it will be impossible to go to another team.


It is completely logical from Kespa's standpoint, for the exact reason you noted: "whittles down every progamer's choices".

You can argue that it's morally wrong. You can argue that it should be illegal. But you can't say it's illogical.
Meh
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
August 28 2009 08:53 GMT
#28
Imo jaedong is the bonjwa of this period, and it'd be so sad to see someone who would be favorite for taking the sl next season reitre because of his fucking retarded parents who think about their own pocket rather than what their son wants, i dont think his parents will make him retire thats so stupid
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
KillForce
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden36 Posts
August 28 2009 09:00 GMT
#29
On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will?


I think a lot of people are more upset about the state of the industry rather than just jaedong. Even non-fanboys can see that something is seriously wrong with the whole situation, for all players, but especially jaedong. If jaedong isn't actually bringing in money enough for his to justify a bigger salary, then pro starcraft might not be sustainable. If you get treated like shit for doing a 24h job, then pro starcraft might not be an okay career choice. Either way, our pastime will suffer. Let's face it, everyone here wants to see him play. We can't say that his parent's are bad for looking out for him (under these circumstances, why shouldn't he retire), but if you don't desire good starcraft, why are you here?
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 28 2009 09:01 GMT
#30
he will never die, he wont die, he will join a new team, you bet on that! >_<
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
August 28 2009 09:03 GMT
#31
On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will?


no I agree lol

People should take a step back and realize that Jaedong isn't progaming. In my view he is nothing special at all, then again I'm an old timer and look back at the 4 kings for inspiration.

Anyways, this thread is dumb. How is Jaedong being treated like shit btw, the guy just won another Starleague and god knows how much money he has made from Starcraft already. It's also funny how no one EVER tries to look for anything good in Kespa. People hop on the "Kespa sucks" bandwagon but I'm not sure if everyone understands why. Do you have any idea how much Kespa has done for Esports??
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
August 28 2009 09:03 GMT
#32
wait, im sorry, wats the problem now? i havent logged in for like a week and im lost now.

is it that no team wants to bid for jaedong cuz he would turn out to be way too expensive, and now he either accepts to stay in OZ or retires? and could someone explain what's the problem with kespa please? is it that they force the player to negotiate with his highest bidding team only? or is there something else fucked up now? sorry...thanks
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
August 28 2009 09:06 GMT
#33
I don't see us doing anything financially or judicially. I think the most impact we could have is to send a letter on behalf of TL to him saying we're watching these events closely and want to see everything work out for him.
Shitposting
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-28 09:14:54
August 28 2009 09:11 GMT
#34
On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will?


If he wants to be a progamer and is forced to quit? Hell yeah it is.
If it really was his own free decision it would be a different story


On August 28 2009 18:03 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2009 16:23 GTR wrote:
Am I the only one here who thinks that Jaedong leaving Starcraft won't be as detrimental as everyone thinks it will?


no I agree lol

People should take a step back and realize that Jaedong isn't progaming. In my view he is nothing special at all, then again I'm an old timer and look back at the 4 kings for inspiration.

Anyways, this thread is dumb. How is Jaedong being treated like shit btw, the guy just won another Starleague and god knows how much money he has made from Starcraft already. It's also funny how no one EVER tries to look for anything good in Kespa. People hop on the "Kespa sucks" bandwagon but I'm not sure if everyone understands why. Do you have any idea how much Kespa has done for Esports??


The people who skyrocketed Esports were the original leaders of kespa, who are NOT the same people that lead it now.
And JD won those titles because he worked like a madman, doesn't have much to do with how he's being treated.
It's not an unreasonable Kespa sucks bandwagon, it's just pretty obvious that the FA system sucks, a.o. reasons cause of players having no decision over what team they're gonna go to
beep boop
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9013 Posts
August 28 2009 09:15 GMT
#35
At least give me a Bisu-Jaedong bo5.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 28 2009 09:16 GMT
#36
the reasons nobody bid for JD is a combination of the high prize and the fact he constantly points out how much he wants to stay with OZ. If he don't get a great salary he should just fuck them and go do something else, he's a genius so he can do anything.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
August 28 2009 09:17 GMT
#37
negotiations with Oz started today, right?
beep boop
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 28 2009 09:19 GMT
#38
The problem is that it should be Jaedong's choice, not his parents. As far as I understand, it's up to his parents whether or not to accept an offer from Oz, not JD himself, because of the fucking ridiculous age of majority in South Korea (20). What a joke.

It will seriously break my heart if Jaedong's parents deny an offer he himself wants to take (and I can only assume he does not want to retire right now).
Harcourt
Profile Joined February 2009
United States20 Posts
August 28 2009 09:30 GMT
#39
I hope Jaedong retires... He's got a huge legacy to leave behind now. It would be perfect time to pick up new interests, go to school; all the things he's missed as progamer. Progaming isn't a permanent job honestly.
That said, I'm pretty sure that he won't retire. He's Lee Jaedong, he's probably one of the most dedicated SC players I've ever seen. He also seems very happy on Hwasung Oz, even if they are putting a lot of pressure on him like his parents say. I hope his parents don't try and make his decisions for him. Hwasung Oz isn't trying to cut his salary next season, are they?
This is more than a passing feeling.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
August 28 2009 09:30 GMT
#40
To be that good at something and not continue to do it?

I don't see how there are some people who arent bothered by this.
I don't imagine he wants to stop. If he did, thats a different story.
How could it not be a story about how KeSPA is ruining their own sprots if debatably the best player ever is essentially forced to retire? They need to have more control over what they do. If this happens to Jaedong, whos to say it wont happen more often, to other players, and affect the sport it ways we really can't put our finger on. This sort of control will dimish the quality of the sport.

It makes me sad to think he would retire with so much potential left. I fail to see how this could not sadden someone.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
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