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But at the same time he is a Kid, yeah maybe he is 19 but u have to think that he didnt have didnt do the things that every 13-19 boy does, during that time he was just playing SC all day long and he saw Oz like his only place to be. He doesnt judge well the situation, he just thinks that Oz is all, and Oz isnt all.... if the coach really care for him he cant play with his mind saying on his ear "you are my best player and u will be forever with me" on the final, thats just fucking with his mind, obviously he wants to stay on Oz. But Oz isnt the best option just look:
1) They offer Jaedong 140M WON + 60M WON if he wins things (idk probably proleague with the team)
2) OFC Jaedongs parents say NO to that (WTF other A Class players win that... and u know that Jaedong is the best right now) others players won like 300M.
3) Why the parents? BECAUSE that stupid rule of kespa: No agents (wtf thats illegal on my country)... Im so happy that he cant make the decision for himself.
4) The other stupid KESPA rule make other teams idea to bid for him very hard to do. Just think they have to pay like 240M to Oz (A lot of money)
5) Jaedong did something wrong and said on the interviews that he doesnt want to go to another team (mindfucked by his coach and probably every Oz people maybe not the other players).
6) Why other teams are going to spend that money on a player that said those things, but again he was just mindfucked by his coach and team members.
Idk but all this situation is so bad and Im sure that his parents are going to make the best decision for him, but if Kespa rulz werent so bad this wouldnt ever happened.
PS: sry for my english I hope u get my idea.
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Jaedong diserves what NaDa had during his 3 osl + MSL achievements!
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On August 28 2009 15:49 MK wrote:I can't say I "support" but I think it could be a very good strategy for his life.
Wow, I seriously can't comprehend why some people argue that he'll have it better quitting progaming for uni. I mean the guy obviously LOVES what he's doing. He has a relatively huge wage which can't really be achieved without years of studies in addition to years of work experience. On top of this, he's young enough that it doesn't really matter what he does the next couple of years. There will always be time to move on to studies.
Also, as one of the most famous famous progamer as of today, there is bound to be work opportunities within the industry if he chose to follow that path. Why do people, hell, even parents, feel they have a right to question something that someone is committing to to that extent, which at the same time allows them to make a living?
Also jaedong and his parents failed misserably in any form of negotiation. Really, if they want to get a decent deal it would probably be a good idea to be in complete agreement beforehand so as to avoid that one part goes out saying one thing and the other something completely different. Now look what he's got.
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Exactly hifriend.
I'll go on to say that life is about doing shit that Jaedong is doing.
He's very lucky to have found a niche he is so adept to. Why go on to be just another kid doing regular stuff... it would be a tragedy. He's arguably the best in the world at something that thousands and thousands dedicate their lives to.
Just because he is the best... people get different...
If we say he should move on to other things we are saying that about all progamers who are "wasting their youth" and whatnot. Life isn't about doing what everyone else does (school, sports, other hobbies... whatever) and being all mediocre at everything. Jaedong should continue what he is doing. I don't even see that its debatable.
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dont retire plsss..... if u retire now, im not gonna watch sc anymore!! u still have alot to prove!!
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On August 28 2009 18:32 GoSu wrote:
Jaedong diserves what NaDa had during his 3 osl + MSL achievements!
what?
Nada is much more achieved than Jaedong
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On August 28 2009 18:49 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2009 18:32 GoSu wrote:
Jaedong diserves what NaDa had during his 3 osl + MSL achievements! what? Nada is much more achieved than Jaedong
He isnt saying that... please get his message right.
He doesnt remember the total of Nada achievements, thats why he puts a + MSL achievements.
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thedeadhaji
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are progamers underpaid - no, the market dictates that. .... ... then again the market is corrupt so LOL
is jaedong underpaid - yes, due to the comarison between his salary and other slightly inferior players.
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On August 28 2009 18:03 UGC4 wrote:wait, im sorry, wats the problem now? i havent logged in for like a week and im lost now. is it that no team wants to bid for jaedong cuz he would turn out to be way too expensive, and now he either accepts to stay in OZ or retires? and could someone explain what's the problem with kespa please? is it that they force the player to negotiate with his highest bidding team only? or is there something else fucked up now? sorry...thanks 
Please answer. I want to know too. What did Kespa do in this case?
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The Free Agency system is clearly broken, my support is behind this.
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And btw, out of the 5 players who declared FA, only go.go got a bid? Seriously? A player like Midas is likely to retire (or go to Ace?) because no one could afford the cost of FA?
Jaedong is just the icing on the caske. The FA system is faulty.
I don't think Kespa or the teams would have the least bit of interest in what a bunch of foreigners think, but a petition or whatever is still better than bitching on an internet forum.
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I support this all the way. The FA-system and KeSPA with their monopoly-inducing rules are making the whole situation so unfair and fucked up that I can hardly believe it's true. It's like racism towards pro-gamers. I'm starting to understand what drove all those people in history that started revolutions. I wish I could do more than just signing a petition, but it's a first step, and it's a step in the right direction.
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KeSPA, their rules are really messing up the financial potential of players. Obviously there are negative aspects but if you consider the plus side, it prevents a situation where very few players control massive amounts of money on the scene. Since PL can be won by a player like Jaedong alone, it would result in a situation where only a few players ever make money and teams could potentially lose depth and there wouldn't be teams anymore, just star players with enormous salaries plus some great players who end up being paid very little.
Also, consider that these teams brought in Jae Dong and trained, fed, gave him a place to sleep and develop. It seems natural that KeSPA wants teams to hold on to players they developed and prevent players from switching teams and being loyal to only money. Or else you end up with a different kind of progaming culture where money is king and coaches rotate players in and out all the time, never developing, just buying potential.
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May be I'm not getting the point, but imo guy earning over 100k per year before even 20 y.o. for playin g video games doesn't need help. B-teamers playing for almost nothing may be, but Jaedong? LOL
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On August 28 2009 20:28 1984 wrote:
May be I'm not getting the point, but imo guy earning over 100k per year before even 20 y.o. for playin g video games doesn't need help. B-teamers playing for almost nothing may be, but Jaedong? LOL
u'd have to understand like every other star in other major sports, great players doesn't get paid only for their practise and work on their respective games, but also their name/marketing/advertising values...
i mean look at all the air time Hwaseung gets with Jaedong on stage, u see Jaedong, u see Hwaseungs brand on him, not to mention all the publicity Jaedong did for them, the shoe commercial and such...
and yes, Jaedong deserved way more than what Hwaseung has offered, and yes, B-teamers are definately being mistreated with their salaries as well...
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corrupt up in this mutha fucka
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Not a Fan of Jaedong at all...But the world of SC needs him to stay competitive!
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On August 28 2009 21:00 Corrupt wrote:
corrupt up in this mutha fucka
lol
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jaedong should stay, who else would get the diamond mouse?
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I totally support sending some sort of message to kespa. If their contract is unfair I think its important that the community lets them know.
For anyone who isnt aware of whats going on... the free agent policy is discussed in
this thread.
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