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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
November 01 2007 11:25 GMT
#81
Wow, it is really going down this week:

OGN have to fight for their second place (coming up against STX from #5, and MBC from #4)
Estro vs Hanbit for the bottom yellow spot on the rankings.

And lecaf also have some tight games, once again vs STX, and MBC. They might be pushed into only their fourth ace match this season.

As to KTF/SKT, this weeks matches will decide whether they still have a chance to be competitive, while Samsung must win to have any chance of not disgracing themselves, and CJ must win to stand a chance to take back second position.

This will be a good week!
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-06 15:02:51
November 06 2007 15:02 GMT
#82
Lecaf lost one and ACE won one this week! and both to the same team!!!

(wtf@STXSoul)
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
November 06 2007 17:41 GMT
#83
actually its not the same team.....

Lecaf lost to STXSoul like u said, but ACE won WeMade not STXSoul too^^
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Barbarne
Profile Joined August 2007
Sweden458 Posts
November 07 2007 00:30 GMT
#84
I'm not sure on this, but judging on the fact that MBC:s current ranking of the teams have a +/-*number* next to the team names and positions. I guess these are the differences in won games, as high ranked teams have high plusses, and low ranked teams have huge minuses (like ACE at -18 after the MBC - OGN game, the VOD where I saw this). Is this what they use for tiebreakers?

Anyway, thought that might be something to consider when you make this page for next season, if that's what they're using for tiebreakers. Btw, (P)Chalrenge vs (T)Sea was awesome.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
November 07 2007 00:48 GMT
#85
On November 07 2007 02:41 MasterReY wrote:
actually its not the same team.....

Lecaf lost to STXSoul like u said, but ACE won WeMade not STXSoul too^^


lmao right after I posted that I went to school and realized that Wemade =\= STX. Lol. I get Hwasin and Nada confused...
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
November 07 2007 13:49 GMT
#86
Update out.

Weekly Stats Report!

What an interesting week for the PL. We're finally in the middle of the proleague, and Lecaf has lost its first (and second) match, while ACE won it's first match. STX first took down Lecaf, and then followed it up by beating OGN. At the bottom of the ranks, Hanbit had a very strong week, clenching a 3-1 victory over ACE, and following it up with a 3-0 victory over their closest rivals (at that time) eSTRO. KTF and SKT both continue their slumps, with KTF going 5 matches without a win now, and SKT 4. Finally, WeMade's short winning spree (2, vs. SKT and KTF) game to an abrupt end as they lost 3 games in a row, ending with a loss against ACE.

ACE WON A MATCH!

In other news, Anytime's victory march continues, as he goes to 10-2. That said, he has lost his second game this season now, losing to Sea on Baekmagoji (a map that typically favours protoss in PvT). GGPlay is eating through his opponents, going on to 7-1 now (which, incidentally, is Anytime's score vs Terran this season). Odin remains the only beacon of hope in the Samsung team, taking third place with a score of 5-0. Finally, Sea and Jaedong both won and lost a game this week, taking them both to 6-2.

In the team news, Flower and Justin have taken nine consecutive games now. I don't know who Flower is, and I know Justin isn't the greatest 1v1 player, but damn they work together well. Clon has been playing like a star for ACE, and remains the only positive influence on that team. His stats are now 5-3 if you exclude his 1v1s, and 6-5 including his 1v1s. The last time Clon lost a game was on 15 October, and since then he's taken 6 consecutive wins.

We've had a few interesting upsets this week. Piano beat Boxer, after which Boxer went on to beat Mind, who's just come from one of the most successful TvT MSL runs ever (qualifying from an all Terran group, then beating Oov in the round of 16, and beating TheMania in the quartefinals). Sheis stopped Jaedong from getting 15 consecutive ZvT wins, and Yellow[Arnc] stopped Kal from getting 5 consecutive PvZ wins.

And the biggest upset of the week is without a doubt Sea beating Anytime. Anytime was on 7-0 vs Terran, while Sea was 0-2 vs Protoss. The map was Baekmagoji that, at the time, was 8-2 for PvT, and I'm sure everyone expected it to become 9-2. Unfortunately for Anytime, Sea had different plans, stopping Anytime from reaching his tenth win, and breaking his perfect run against Terran.

Finally, yet another Proleague Thread update, with a list of the top players and 2v2 teams coming in. This list is sorted as follows: Net Score is ranked first. If players are equal on Net Score, number of games played is ranked, the more games played, the higher the player is (this means that 6-2 is above 4-0). If games played and net score are equal, the spread of the games are taken into account. A player winning 2 games against each race is ranked higher than a player that's taken 6 games against the same race. If all this doesn't split two players, they are sorted alphabetically.

The little arrows next to each player shows how much he has climbed or dropped this week. As this is the first week I've had to do the arrows by memory, so don't tell me that I've made a mistake, and that Jaedong was actually third, not fourth, last week. That said, I think the arrows are accurate

Once again, I hope you guys enjoyed the update, as well as the stats report. To me, this has been one of the most interesting weeks in PL so far.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 07 2007 13:55 GMT
#87
Thanks so much for the update Daigomi.

**Spoilers**

Looks like Steve is 100% justified in putting Sea at 9th over Anytime (despite the loss to Chalrenge).

And what about Flower/Justin eh? 10-0?? I feel differently about Bifrost now. I guess players really can find their specialty in 2v2, especially given how badly Flower sucked in OSC groups today.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
November 07 2007 14:05 GMT
#88
Daigomi, thank you, thank you so very very much.
returns upon momentous occasions.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
November 07 2007 14:19 GMT
#89
On November 07 2007 22:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
Thanks so much for the update Daigomi.

**Spoilers**

Looks like Steve is 100% justified in putting Sea at 9th over Anytime (despite the loss to Chalrenge).

And what about Flower/Justin eh? 10-0?? I feel differently about Bifrost now. I guess players really can find their specialty in 2v2, especially given how badly Flower sucked in OSC groups today.


Ahh, thanks to your comment I checked my stats again. Flower/Justin are actually 9/0. There was a Zues/Flower game somewhere early in the PL, so OGN are 10/0 in total.

Something else I found interesting but forgot to add to the weekly report is how badly Terran is doing this season. Only one Terran on the top 10 (trusty old Sea), and an average win rate of 43% for terran, including a fairly horrid 24-11 score against Protoss. If you believe in karma, then this is karma for Geometry.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-07 14:25:22
November 07 2007 14:24 GMT
#90
haha yeah, but nobody complains that T is doing badly (even though there hasn't been a T winner of the MSL for ages, and the last two OSL winners were Zergs), because let's face it:

there's nothing more entertaining than a mediocre T getting taken apart by an upper level ZvTer or PvTer. even T players enjoy watching that.

combine that with the overflow of no-name Ts into the leagues the past few seasons and you have nobody really cheering for them, other than for the very top ones. also, the environment has produced many vT specialists. just look at Stork, Jaedong, Kwanro, the twins on OGN. we have an MSL semifinalist (Mind) who basically only played vT to get there.
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
November 07 2007 18:34 GMT
#91
after the playoff there is a match beetween the 1st semi-year champion and the 2nd semi-year champion ?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 07 2007 19:11 GMT
#92
Daigomi, you and this thread are both epic.
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
November 07 2007 20:01 GMT
#93
yes this is the best R&S thread ever in TL.net !!!!!
i really love this pics with players and maps and the normal team ranking ofc :D

so great
wow
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
November 08 2007 05:42 GMT
#94
11월 10일(토, 온게임넷) 오후 2시
▶KTF - SK텔레콤
(P)Nal_rA < Katrina > (P)BeSt
(Z)815 < Blue Storm > (T)Midas
(T)By.SaiR/(Z)raid < Seongangil > (Z)LaKe/(T)Shudder
(P)Reach < Baekmagoji > (P)Kingdom
Closer < Monty Hall SE >

11월 10일(토, MBC게임) 오후 2시
▶르까프 - 온게임넷
(T)HiyA < Baekmagoji > (Z)HoGiL
(Z)Jaedong < Blue Storm > (Z)Luxury
(Z)Bright[z-zone]/(T)Dongrae < Hwangsanbul > (Z)NsP_Flower/(T)Justin
(P)Anytime < Python > (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
Closer < Un'Goro Crater >

11월 11일(일, 온게임넷) 오후 2시
▶위메이드 - 한빛
(T)Casy < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)GGPlay
(P)Sea.Pure < Katrina > (P)GuemChi
(T)Ho[WHITE]/(Z)Stay[HyO] < Seongangil > (T)Kuni/(Z)Qoo)Max
(P)HerO < Monty Hall SE > (P)free
Closer < Blue Storm >

11월 11일(일, MBC게임) 오후 2시
▶CJ - 삼성전자
(Z)sAviOr < Katrina > (T)firebathero
(T)Iris < Python > (P)JangBi
(Z)Sea.Jy/(T)TheManiaMST < Hwangsanbul > (Z)JiHyun/(T)CuteBOy[gm]
(P)Much < Baekmagoji > (P)Stork
Closer < Un'Goro Crater >

11월 12일(월, 온게임넷) 오후 6시반
▶이스트로 - 공군
(Z)maGma < Python > (Z)MuMyung
(P)Tester < Baekmagoji > (T)BoxeR
(Z)Cool[fOu]/(P)SangHo < Hwangsanbul > (P)Rage/(Z)Clon
(T)UpMagiC < Un'Goro Crater > (P)DaezanG
Closer < Blue Storm >

11월 12일(월, MBC게임) 오후 6시반
▶MBC게임 - STX
(T)Light < Blue Storm > (P)Kal
(P)Pusan < Baekmagoji > (T)TheStC
(Z)Saint[z-zone]/(P)Bisu < Seongangil > (P)BestGod/(Z)Terror
(T)Sea < Monty Hall SE > (Z)Calm
Closer < Katrina >

11월 13일(화, 온게임넷) 오후 6시반
▶KTF - 르까프
(Z)815 < Blue Storm > (Z)Jaedong
(T)Hery < Monty Hall SE > (P)Anytime
(P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy < Hwangsanbul > (T)Lomo/(Z)ShinHwA
(T)Flash < Baekmagoji > (T)HiyA
Closer < Katrina >

11월 13일(화, MBC게임) 오후 6시반
▶SK텔레콤 - 온게임넷
(P)BeSt < Blue Storm > (T)go.go
(Z)Rumble < Katrina > (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
(P)Bul_T/(Z)AnomiA < Seongangil > (Z)HoGiL/(P)Spear[Shield]
(Z)July < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)Luxury
Closer < Python >

11월 14일(수, 온게임넷) 오후 2시
▶위메이드 - 삼성전자
(Z)FireFist < Katrina > (Z)ZergMaN
(P)Sea.Pure < Blue Storm > (Z)oDin
(T)Ho[WHITE]/(Z)Stay[HyO] < Seongangil > (T)firebathero/(Z)sigamari
(T)Casy < Baekmagoji > (P)Stork
Closer < Monty Hall SE >

11월 14일(수, MBC게임) 오후 2시
▶한빛 - CJ
(Z)GGPlay < Baekmagoji > (T)DarkElf
(P)free < Blue Storm > (P)Much
(Z)mensol[zero]/(R)Qoo)Max < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Sea.Jy/(T)TheManiaMST
(P)GuemChi < Python > (T)Iris
Closer < Un'Goro Crater >
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 08 2007 05:57 GMT
#95
11/11 Casy vs GGPlay
11/11 Savior vs FireBatHero (Finally, the rematch!!!)
11/12 Tester vs Boxer

Some other nice games too, but I can't help but see the trend towards more mirrors.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
November 08 2007 06:04 GMT
#96
Reach versus Kingdom!!

even if they both are.. sub-par

The half of MyCube that did not happen!

ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
November 08 2007 06:09 GMT
#97
Some good mirrors in there though.

Also, Zergman finally returns to KHAN's lineup. Desperation?
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
November 08 2007 07:52 GMT
#98
casy vs stork lol no chance at all
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
November 08 2007 08:21 GMT
#99
Yes, I feel bad for Casy. He moves to a new team, and then he gets the worst matches to start with. Best (ok, maybe this one wasn't that hard, still BeSt has been playing well), then GGPlay, who is in incredible form this season, and finally Stork. Really not the entrance he would have liked. Still, if he manages to win a game he will have secured his spot in the team.
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
November 09 2007 00:43 GMT
#100
On November 08 2007 17:21 Daigomi wrote:
Yes, I feel bad for Casy. He moves to a new team, and then he gets the worst matches to start with. Best (ok, maybe this one wasn't that hard, still BeSt has been playing well), then GGPlay, who is in incredible form this season, and finally Stork. Really not the entrance he would have liked. Still, if he manages to win a game he will have secured his spot in the team.

Facing any Zerg is fortunate for him. Even Jaedong. By the way, when Casy went 0-3 in his Daum group, two of the losses were against GGPlay and Stork. This time though they better lube up good because Casy is coming back with a vengeance. He actually played well vs. Best and is on his way to a comeback. You heard it first here, Casy is coming back to win an SL.
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