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2007 Shinhan Bank Proleague - Round 2 - Page 4

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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
October 31 2007 02:09 GMT
#61
Could be various reasons:
- Other 2v2 got better
- New different maps with different strategies or just different focuses
- Looking at Lecaf / OGN, appears TvZ is better on these maps (and unlike bisu/saint and reach/zergboy, he doesn't have a strong protoss partner)
- Hes just slumping

Qoo)Max (Last season 2v2 MVP) is also doing pretty bad too.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-31 23:41:36
October 31 2007 11:31 GMT
#62
Ok, update out.

Weekly Stats Report!

The team positions seems to have solidified a bit, as very little changed this week except for KTF dropping like a rock and MBC continuing to make their comeback. Lecaf remains at the top with a stunning 8-0, and a game win percentage of just under 75%. If Airforce Ace manage win a match or two they can surpass Samsung the Samsung way they are playing at the moment with the only players sporting positive win records in Samsung being Freedom (2-1) and Odin (4-0).

Nal_rA has finally surpassed sAviOr as worst fucking player ever with 1-5, and sAviOr picked up his second win to take a strong fourth last place (in front of Nal_rA(1-5), Oversky (1-5) and Sea.Pure (1-4)). Clearly he's in good company.

Kal dropped two games this week (two PvPs), but managed to win a PvT to keep his place as second best in the PL, while Anytime has taken a resounding lead with 9-1, and Jaedong is in a firm third place with 6-1.

Lecaf looks unbeatable this season, with their top three players going 9-1, 6-1, and 3-1 (ForGG) respectively, and their main 2v2 team not looking too bad (3-2). Hopefully they can give their younger players (Lomo, BackHo) enough experience so that at least one of them can grab a win in the playoffs this season.

Flower/Justin remain unbeaten at 7-0, propelling OGN into a surprising second place. Along with the 2v2 squad, Luxury is the only real performer in the OGN team with a stunning 5-0. His twin also has a positive win ratio (3-2) but he is not performing as well as was expected.

Although WeMade and Hanbit haven't moved up any spots, they are both threatening to take positions in the middle of the field, with team stats of 3-4 held by both teams. Both WeMade and Hanbit still have 3 matches to play before they have played as many matches as the #7 position SKT, and they are only trailing one match. At least one of them should pass SKT soon.

And finally, I have made a big update to the map stats. The cosmetic update (colours etc) are only there so that the stats are a bit clearer, as I've had to split the cells in which the stats were kept in order to create accurate Race Win % stats.

Looking at these race stats we can see that Protoss is having a strong season, winning 60% of all their games (and having played the most games, 85, compared to Terran's 84 games, and Zerg's 82 games), and 73% of their games against Terran. Surprisingly, last season's maps (Python, Monty Hall) are the most balanced maps so far with exactly 50% win ratios for all three races. This shouldn't be taken too seriously though, as these maps haven't seen as many games as most of the other maps.

I hope you guys find these updates useful, and that you appreciate the new features that I try to add to the thread (side note: Pachi, I added the maps that the games were played on for this week). I also hope you guys enjoy the weekly stats reports. I do these since I'm in a unique position to see all the stats, so I hope that the short updates are informative.
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cSf.Loser
Profile Joined December 2005
Czech Republic115 Posts
October 31 2007 13:11 GMT
#63
great work!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
October 31 2007 13:36 GMT
#64
Thanks for all your great work.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 31 2007 14:27 GMT
#65
Great work Daigomi. :D
semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
October 31 2007 17:49 GMT
#66
On October 31 2007 20:31 Daigomi wrote:
Nal_rA has finally surpassed sAviOr as worst fucking player ever ...


BLASPHEMY!!!

On both accounts!

But other than that excellent job on the thread and keep up the good work
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
October 31 2007 18:25 GMT
#67
Haha, I am angry at Nal_rA for letting KTF down so often!

I would thank you for your thread too, except that I've been capped (cannot download at all) for the last 2 weeks, and as a result I haven't followed the MSL results at all. I don't want to have my MSL spoiled!

Fortunately from tomorrow I can start downloading again, so I'll have lots of catching up to do.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
October 31 2007 18:41 GMT
#68
Sweet, thanks for the summary Daigomi. Makes PL so much easier to follow, though it's a shame not many people will see it here. Maybe Steve can quote it in his Proleague recap.
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
October 31 2007 18:45 GMT
#69
Bob, I considered asking Steve if he would just add a link to the main thread at the end of his recap, was still deliberating about it. It would be nice if Steve quotes the summary too, but that's entirely up to him
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 31 2007 20:43 GMT
#70
Anytime, Jaedong, and ForGG are now 18-3! (85.7%)

Rest of Lecaf is 6-6.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
October 31 2007 21:59 GMT
#71
wow lecaf is a monster, i seriously hope that OGN and samsungkhan will change their place, OGN has no good player (except luxury and 2vs2)
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
October 31 2007 22:09 GMT
#72
fucking nice report there Daigomi!!
Yes, Steve should definately quote it. It would be a shame if that went unnoticed. I'm sure he will if you just ask.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
October 31 2007 22:10 GMT
#73
samsung can chill at the bottom for this season, it'll be nice to see some other teams in the playoffs.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 31 2007 22:53 GMT
#74
On October 31 2007 20:31 Daigomi wrote:
Kal dropped two games this week (one PvT, and one PvP), but managed to win a PvP to keep his place as second best in the PL, while Anytime has taken a resounding lead with 9-1, and Jaedong is in a firm third place with 6-1.

Jaedong's 6-1 record is better than Kal's 7-3.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-31 23:50:05
October 31 2007 23:49 GMT
#75
Jaedong's 6-1 record is better than Kal's 7-3.

Unfortunately, number of wins is always ranked higher than win percentage, although I do agree that Jaedong probably has the better stats at the moment, and will surpass Kal soon, if he gets to play a few more games.

And Aepplet, I agree whole-heartedly with you. Samsung can keep their place at the bottom. I'd love to see an OGN, Lecaf, MBC, KTF or similar play-offs this season (although CJ are probably more likely to get that last spot).
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
November 01 2007 01:13 GMT
#76
On November 01 2007 06:59 trollbone wrote:
wow lecaf is a monster, i seriously hope that OGN and samsungkhan will change their place, OGN has no good player (except luxury and 2vs2)


Luxury and 2v2 undefeated so far helps quite a bit seeing as OGN has won at least 2 games every match they've had. Similar to the hustle Khan had going last season but they're not playing luxury every single match and their closer game is shakey.


For Daigomi: When I was looking through OGN's matches, you have in the detailed team/player stats recorded OGN 3-2 Hanbit, while in the detailed match you have OGN 3-0 Hanbit, while the actual game scores suggest a OGN 3-1 Hanbit. This is under the spoiler for 15th of October.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 01 2007 03:27 GMT
#77
wow I loved your weekly report. Thx for it.
Its weird how Samsung blows right now. Probably cuz Stork isn't as hot as he was a few months ago. Anytime's weird fall strength is scary yet so awesome. I'm not sure he will be able to get to the Fall final this year. He will have the Bisu and sAviOr to play and next OSL is supposed to be Bisu's as long as he doesn't take this one.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
November 01 2007 07:07 GMT
#78
Thanks Pachi. I don't know why that happened, but the stats on the tables are still correct. And yes, OGN did beat hanbit 3-1
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
November 01 2007 10:53 GMT
#79
saturday 3rd

Air Force ACE vs Hanbit Stars
(Z)OversKy < Python > (P)free
(P)DaezanG < Baekmagoji > (Z)GGPlay
(P)Rage/(Z)Clon < Hwangsanbul > (Z)Child/(T)Kuni
(T)BoxeR < Un'Goro Crater > (T)PianO
Closer < Blue Storm >


eSTRO vs WeMade FOX
(T)UpMagiC < Un'Goro Crater > (T)NaDa
(P)SangHo < Katrina > (P)HerO_V_
(Z)CCoMa/(P)Tester < Seongangil > (Z)Stay[HyO]/(P)HoOny
(Z)Cool[fOu] < Monty Hall SE > (P)Rock
Closer < Blue Storm >


sunday 4th

STX SouL vs Lecaf Oz
(T)TheStC[GnH] < Baekmagoji > (P)Anytime
(T)Sheis < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)Jaedong
(P)Kal/(Z)Calm < Seongangil > (Z)Bright[z-zone]/(T)Dongrae
(T)Hwasin < Blue Storm > (P)BackHo
Closer < Python >

MBCGame HERO vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
(Z)HyuN < Blue Storm > (Z)Luxury
(T)Light < Monty Hall SE > (T)go.go
(Z)Saint[z-zone]/(P)Bisu < Hwangsanbul > (Z)NsP_Flower/(T)Justin
(T)Sea < Baekmagoji > (P)Chalrenge
Closer < Katrina >


monday 5th

CJ Entus vs SK Telecom T1
(Z)Kwanro < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Canata
(Z)Sea.Jy < Katrina > (P)BeSt
(Z)sAviOr/(T)TheManiaMST < Seongangil > (Z)LaKe[Name]/(T)Shudder
(T)DarkElf < Monty Hall SE > (T)iloveoov
Closer < Blue Storm >

Samsung KHAN vs KTF MagicNs
(Z)oDin < Python > (T)Hery
(P)Stork < Baekmagoji > (P)LuCifer
(P)TT/(Z)sigamari < Hwangsanbul > (P)Reach/(Z)ZergBOy
(T)firebathero < Un'Goro Crater > (T)Flash
Closer < Blue Storm >


tuesday 6th

eSTRO vs Hanbit Stars
(P)SangHo < Blue Storm > (Z)GGPlay
(Z)ELIZA < Monty Hall SE > (P)free
(Z)Cool[fOu]/(T)Bassen[fOu] < Hwangsanbul > (Z)mensol[zero]/(Z)Qoo)Max
(P)Tester < Baekmagoji > (T)GanZi[3.33]
Closer < Katrina >

Air Force ACE vs WeMade FOX
(T)BoxeR < Baekmagoji > (T)Mind
(P)Rage < Un'Goro Crater > (T)NaDa
(P)DaezanG/(Z)Clon < Seongangil > (T)Ho[WHITE]/(Z)Stay[HyO]
(Z)MuMyung < Blue Storm > (T)pepe[z-zone]
Closer < Python >


wednesday 7th

STX SouL vs OnGameNet SPARKYZ
(T)Hwasin < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)Luxury
(P)Kal < Katrina > (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
(P)BestGod/(Z)Terror < Seongangil > (Z)NsP_Flower/(T)Justin
(Z)Calm < Monty Hall SE > (P)Chalrenge
Closer < Blue Storm >

MBCGame HERO vs Lecaf Oz
(T)Light < Python > (T)fOrGG
(T)Sea < Baekmagoji > (P)Anytime
(Z)Saint[z-zone]/(P)Bisu < Hwangsanbul > (T)Lomo/(Z)ShinHwA
(Z)HyuN < Un'Goro Crater > (Z)Jaedong
Closer < Blue Storm >
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
November 01 2007 11:01 GMT
#80
first : LOL at (T)Kuni

match i would like to watch :

oversky vs free
upmagic vs nada
sea vs chalrenge
iloveoov vs darkelf
flash vs firebathero

match epic for me :

HWASIN vs LUXURY !!!!
KAL vs YARNC !!!!
CALM vs CHALRENGE !!!

the match of the week :

ANYTIME vs SEA !!! ----> WE WILL SEE WHO IS TRULY NUMBER 9 AND NUMBER 10 OF THE POWER RANK -----> GO ANYTIME !!!!
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